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STEVE ROGERS
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 excel wrote: ight, you don trust richard roper in knowing box office? how buot one of the guys who runs boxofficeprophets.com
June 2006 Forecast
By Michael Bentley
1) Superman Returns
The Man of Steel is back. Gone are Margot Kidder, Gene Hackman, Sidney J. Furie (I guess Alan Smithee wasn't invented yet), and the late Christopher Reeve. Replacing them are Kate Bosworth, Kevin Spacey, Bryan Singer, and Brandon Routh (who?). Director Singer gambled and jumped ship from the lucrative X-Men franchise - something that many mutant fanboys are probably shaking their fists at right now - and took a chance on reviving what was once America's most beloved comic.
It is easy to wonder if the last Superman movie - the absolutely terrible Superman IV: The Quest for Peace - will haunt Superman Returns and scare people away from seeing it, as likely happened to some degree with Batman and Robin on last year's Batman Begins. I tend to suspect that the impact from the negative karma of Superman IV will be negligible. It has been nearly 20 years, compared to just eight for the Caped Crusader. There are a number of factors in its favor: the sizeable built-in audience of comic fans, people curious to see what Singer does with it, and of course it will have the long weekend prior to July 4th with little direct competition. However, though it probably won't matter much (except maybe in the long run) but I can't help but wondering if casting a complete unknown in the title role was a mistake.
Opening weekend prediction: $82 million + $53 million Wed-Thu.
no final projection made, a 5 day of 135 million assures 250 million, cause itll get at the very minimum a 2 multiplier for its 5 day.  I think Roeper definitely has a legitimate point, don't you?? 
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STEVE ROGERS
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Given the fact that we live in a very politically correct world nowadays, I don't think SUPERMAN being a Colon Cowboy will be the sole reason this movie takes a bath.. The reason really is that no one cares about this movie or the character, in a world where MARVEL has put out characters that are better appealing, with more complex personalities and are flashier and easier to relate to.. SUPERMAN may be an Iconic character by definition, but that doesn't translate to every teen and kid in the world buying into that.. This character had it's time back in the late 70's and culminating with the Godawful 4th movie in 83 or 84, but also as much as I keep saying this and it keeps being ignored, Christopher Reeve's absence WILL play a part also in the movie's demise.. You have to understand that 95% of the world's population really accepted Reeve as the Man of Steel.. He was PERFECT on all accounts, the right build, the right height and in geenral, the right look and it counted, BACK THEN.. Now, in the Present, he's gone and too many of folks reared on Reeve and Donner's version of SUPERMAN, so is this..
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BKB if you think all that, then why would you put Superman Returns at over 200m? Since that would put it in the same league as X-Men, if Marvel comic flicks have more appeal then why would Superman do as good as X-Men?
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STEVE ROGERS
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Killuminati510 wrote: BKB if you think all that, then why would you put Superman Returns at over 200m? Since that would put it in the same league as X-Men, if Marvel comic flicks have more appeal then why would Superman do as good as X-Men?
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flashier? no marvel hero is more cinematically impressive then superman
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BJ
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Magnus101 wrote: Bret Ratner is the best wrote: Difference is BJ doesnt shove his predictions down everyones throat and overpredicting is his gimmick
You still havent gotten a response back from what I said three movie columnist think that SR will flop or disappoint when you were quoting on how Roeper thinks that Superman will be number 1 Except BJ optimism has spread, and many are predicting 450m+ for POTC2. I think POTC2 will be big, but I doubt it can get in the 450m range or near it. Yet no one protests to BJ or anyone predicting 450m+ for POTC2 even when they have no evidence to support them aside from Shrek 2. goood goooooood  _________________The Force Awakens
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STEVE ROGERS
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excel wrote: flashier? no marvel hero is more cinematically impressive then superman
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BJ
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DP07 wrote: Magnus101 wrote: Bret Ratner is the best wrote: Difference is BJ doesnt shove his predictions down everyones throat and overpredicting is his gimmick
You still havent gotten a response back from what I said three movie columnist think that SR will flop or disappoint when you were quoting on how Roeper thinks that Superman will be number 1 Except BJ optimism has spread, and many are predicting 450m+ for POTC2. I think POTC2 will be big, but I doubt it can get in the 450m range or near it. Yet no one protests to BJ or anyone predicting 450m+ for POTC2 even when they have no evidence to support them aside from Shrek 2. Oh man I have a lot of evidence. I'll make that thread soon.  Shrek 2 is the ultimate evidence  _________________The Force Awakens
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Quote: Insomniacdude:Oh wow. Excel has me convinced. Superman PJs? God damn, what an idea. IT's not like they haven't been selling those for freaking ever.
excel:maybe you should tell people to stop saying this film has no awareness then. Nice try, excel. Little boys have been sporting Superman Underoos continuously for decades, whether there was a movie coming out or not.
In fact, Superman's marketing is a distinct disadvantage. Usually when people see new stuff, they know there's a movie coming out. But there's so much Superman to begin with, you don't know if it's because of a movie, or because Wal-mart decided to re-do the existing Superman line. I don't think the Underoos are contributing much to awareness.
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BKB_The_Man wrote: excel wrote: flashier? no marvel hero is more cinematically impressive then superman lol ok mr marvel fanboy...lets see spidey stop acrashing plane or an earthquake...
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Magnus101 wrote: So I'm flipping through channels this morning and I flip through to Fox and I see a commerical for some SR merchandise(one of those Superman suits). Looks likte the ad campagin towards kids has started. I expect many Saturday morning cartoons to have SR commericals like that attached to them.
The kids auidence will really help SR I think, something BB lacked. Magnus. you know how people keep on making fun of how you grasp at little things you see to justify your high prediction? Why do you keep on feeding them with comments like that?
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Positive Jon wrote: Magnus101 wrote: So I'm flipping through channels this morning and I flip through to Fox and I see a commerical for some SR merchandise(one of those Superman suits). Looks likte the ad campagin towards kids has started. I expect many Saturday morning cartoons to have SR commericals like that attached to them.
The kids auidence will really help SR I think, something BB lacked. Magnus. you know how people keep on making fun of how you grasp at little things you see to justify your high prediction? Why do you keep on feeding them with comments like that? Excel is grasping at little things. The closer SR gets to release, the more Magnus seems to be making sense. I think the adverts we see on TV thus far are a good indication as to where the film is going to be marketed. So far, it's been almost predominently at children (the little marketing we've seen). We all know that SR's BO will be amde or broken on children and whether they will be marketed too. If it happens, it will boost SR's BO significantly. _________________
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Magnus101 wrote: Advance ticketing has started. Most theaters in my area already have timings and tickets available. I shall be watching these sales closely. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!
thx for the heads up Magnus.
http://www.cinemark.com/theater_showtim ... =6/27/2006
just bought 4 tickets to the 10pm IMAX showing on tuesday the 27th. 
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insomniacdude wrote: Positive Jon wrote: Magnus101 wrote: So I'm flipping through channels this morning and I flip through to Fox and I see a commerical for some SR merchandise(one of those Superman suits). Looks likte the ad campagin towards kids has started. I expect many Saturday morning cartoons to have SR commericals like that attached to them.
The kids auidence will really help SR I think, something BB lacked. Magnus. you know how people keep on making fun of how you grasp at little things you see to justify your high prediction? Why do you keep on feeding them with comments like that? Excel is grasping at little things. The closer SR gets to release, the more Magnus seems to be making sense. I think the adverts we see on TV thus far are a good indication as to where the film is going to be marketed. So far, it's been almost predominently at children (the little marketing we've seen). We all know that SR's BO will be amde or broken on children and whether they will be marketed too. If it happens, it will boost SR's BO significantly. what little things? toys are HUGE with kids....
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Eventine
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I just watched a commercial in Nickelodeon today. A Superman suit that could be nflated and they show this kid bending metal bars made of tootsie roll and throw boxes made of tissue. That's what I call marketing.
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Eventine
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Actually I wasn't being sarcastic. I was just saying that the commercial was stupid. I have no doubt whatsoever that kids fall for that kind of stupid commercial.
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yeah, kids and parents should belining come july 4th. and then the action packed tv spots will attracts the teens adults. theres also a commercial for superman crunch (captian crunch but with superman s's instead.) with captain and 2 kids on a rooftop n there talking about how its good, their s's, and then they just fly away.
stupid, but it made me wanna get some.
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Shack
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Why is there so many posters? Isn't that like the 6th one? They've released 3-4 in the last 3-4 days.
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heres the captn crnuch breakdown i just saw it-its so stupid.
2 kids walk outside a huge daily planet like building in a city. a voiceover says lex luthors taken control of the city.
a cartoon ship crashes into the street as the little boy says "this looks like a job for superman!" n captn crunch says "or...superman crunch! a great part of this good breakfast!-hop on board!" the kids become cartoons n the girl sys "what are we gonna do fly?" n captain crunch says "of course" nt throws them to jet packs n they fly up to th rooftop to see the delicious looking cereal being poored into a bowl. they become human again n eat it and we cut to the huge s and it says promoting superman returns in theaters june 30th.
kids will totally dig this.
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Eventine
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When are they going to start advertising this movie for June 28th?
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dunno. pepsis promos start next week, and the tv spots the week after.
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