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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20419 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
I have a friendsgiving around the time this comes out so I have to wait until that is dated to buy tickets for our group.
It's the furthest out I think tix for a Marvel film have become available
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:26 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18932 Location: San Diego
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
Mmm weaker presales than Love and Thunder is discouraging but I think not having NWH or MoM presales makes sense considering the cameo rumor frenzy those ones had.
Now if the movie is simply not strong then that'll be another story but I'm sure the opening will still be huge.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:03 pm |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 pm Posts: 6196
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
while the trailers/posters are fine, I find it weird that Disney's marketing strategy is keep up the black panther under wraps. Why would you not say who is playing the main lead/central character in the movie !!! Plus I think they made a mistake in not castin T'challa. How would you kill the main character after just 1 movie. Movie characters have to be more than just the actor. That is why we have had so many actors playing Batman and Spider-man etc.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:32 pm |
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Shack
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
I am feeling disappointment compared to the first. I think the female vibe isn't going to be as popular. No Kaluuya hurts. Avatar 2 may double this.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:42 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32129 Location: the last free city
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
IT LOOKS SOOO GOOOD! got my tickets for the double feature of BP & BP2 on Thursday 11/10. also bought tickets for my fam to see it on Saturday 11/12. CAN'T WAIT!!! 210m+ OW 500m+ domestic
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:14 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
I haven't received my ticket yet, Rev. Care to resend it?
It's going to be hard (perhaps impossible) to recapture the magic surrounding the original, so hopefully expectations aren't that high. In general, it feels like expectations are too high for the MCU now following Endgame/No Way Home. $400/500 million would be a big drop, but that's a hell of a gross regardless.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:38 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32129 Location: the last free city
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
Corpse wrote: I haven't received my ticket yet, Rev. Care to resend it? I'm using 90's technology so give it a couple days
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:44 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32129 Location: the last free city
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
With Disney's 45 day theatrical run, BP2 45th day is on Christmas Sunday wondering if Disney will drop it on D+ that Tuesday or wait until after new years wknd.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:49 pm |
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Keyser Söze
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Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 pm Posts: 6196
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
Looking at cinemark data, its tad under 60% of Thor 4 OD presales. It generally tapers off after explosive start and so I am not expecting overall PS to be under 70% like for like. Let us see how things go as Thor had a shorter presales cycle where it did improve its ratio relative to DS2 in the final week. I expect BP2 to do something similar. But I am not feeling anything close to 200m. I think 150m is the target at this point.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:16 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32129 Location: the last free city
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
Disney is treating Wakanda Forever like it's a Star Wars film presales tickets available 5 WEEKS before it opens. They are 1000% confident in this film.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:22 pm |
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MadGez
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Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22733 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
I like the new trailer.
I think it's still early and the audience will build for this over the coming weeks.
Yes, the loss of Chadwick's BP will be felt (and the shift to majority female protagonists will to some extent also) but it has both pros and cons that should balance out and allow it to get to around $475-525m which is still fantastic as it would beat out every other MCU film bar Avengers, Infinity War, Endgame, No Way Home and the original BP.
One must also consider that current MCU feels like its oversaturated (with TV also) and is on an overall downward trend outside of major event films - so I think this will be one of the larger grossers of the coming phases.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:54 pm |
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O
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
MadGez wrote: I like the new trailer.
I think it's still early and the audience will build for this over the coming weeks.
Yes, the loss of Chadwick's BP will be felt (and the shift to majority female protagonists will to some extent also) but it has both pros and cons that should balance out and allow it to get to around $475-525m which is still fantastic as it would beat out every other MCU film bar Avengers, Infinity War, Endgame, No Way Home and the original BP.
One must also consider that current MCU feels like its oversaturated (with TV also) and is on an overall downward trend outside of major event films - so I think this will be one of the larger grossers of the coming phases. I could see BP get to that range by the end of Thanksgiving. Definitely see ALOT more total wise.
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Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:51 pm |
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Algren
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
Keyser Söze wrote: Why would you not say who is playing the main lead/central character in the movie !!! I think it's pretty obvious who's playing the lead character.
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Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:27 pm |
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Keyser Söze
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
After few days of presales my prediction is 160/390m. MCU these days are insanely frontloaded due to its mature fan base. At best I can see 170/430 kind of run.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:12 am |
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O
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
The first BP felt like it had a run very different from the typical MCU movies. People were renting out movie theaters for it. Group and school screenings were big. I would be shocked if BP is close to Dr. Strange's total.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:36 am |
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Keyser Söze
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
O wrote: The first BP felt like it had a run very different from the typical MCU movies. People were renting out movie theaters for it. Group and school screenings were big. I would be shocked if BP is close to Dr. Strange's total. 1st BP movie exploded out of the block in presales as well. OD presales actually crushed Civil War and overall Presales by opening was 4th biggest of all time only behind 3 SW movies (SW7/8 and RO). This is already behind Thor which was way behind Dr Strange. So seems way lower tier compared to last one. Absence of Chadwick is making this play almost like a spin off than a direct sequel.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:01 pm |
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O
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
BP tracking at $175M already. Bodes well considering reviews, wom and marketing build up haven't even ramped up yet. https://variety.com/2022/film/news/blac ... 235409682/
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Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:24 pm |
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O
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
Rihanna hasn't made new music for 6 years but was announced for the Superbowl half time show. Now it's been revealed her first song will be for Wakanda Forever's soundtrack. Definitely will build even more buzz here and if the song is good could hit #1 around the same time as the movie. It's out on Friday. The last album hit #1 so feel music on this one will be good as well. https://variety.com/2022/music/news/rih ... 235412876/
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Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:14 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32129 Location: the last free city
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
O wrote: Now it's been revealed her first song will be for Wakanda Forever's soundtrack. Definitely will build even more buzz here and if the song is good could hit #1 around the same time as the movie. It's out on Friday. The last album hit #1 so feel music on this one will be good as well. https://variety.com/2022/music/news/rih ... 235412876/ AWESOME! O wrote: Rihanna hasn't made new music for 6 years but was announced for the Superbowl half time show. I don't think there's a criteria that you have to have made music recently in order to perform I think what matters is that you're well known & have hit songs.
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Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:19 pm |
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O
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
Rev wrote: O wrote: Now it's been revealed her first song will be for Wakanda Forever's soundtrack. Definitely will build even more buzz here and if the song is good could hit #1 around the same time as the movie. It's out on Friday. The last album hit #1 so feel music on this one will be good as well. https://variety.com/2022/music/news/rih ... 235412876/ AWESOME! O wrote: Rihanna hasn't made new music for 6 years but was announced for the Superbowl half time show. I don't think there's a criteria that you have to have made music recently in order to perform I think what matters is that you're well known & have hit songs. Absolutely! More mentioned that since it was likely a sign she had new music possibly coming and it starts with Wakanda!
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Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:05 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32129 Location: the last free city
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
O wrote: Rev wrote: O wrote: Now it's been revealed her first song will be for Wakanda Forever's soundtrack. Definitely will build even more buzz here and if the song is good could hit #1 around the same time as the movie. It's out on Friday. The last album hit #1 so feel music on this one will be good as well. https://variety.com/2022/music/news/rih ... 235412876/ AWESOME! O wrote: Rihanna hasn't made new music for 6 years but was announced for the Superbowl half time show. I don't think there's a criteria that you have to have made music recently in order to perform I think what matters is that you're well known & have hit songs. Absolutely! More mentioned that since it was likely a sign she had new music possibly coming and it starts with Wakanda! yes SIR that's a nice surprise
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Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:32 pm |
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O
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
First reactions from the premiere last night. Looks to be overwhelmingly positive and some mentioning it's Marvel's most emotional film with Bassett as a highlight. Anticipation is definitely ramping into high gear and the new song drops tomorrow. It also seems very different from Marvel's usual tone and appears to have Marvel's best after credits scene ever. https://variety.com/2022/film/news/blac ... 235412742/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie ... 235248887/
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Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:58 am |
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Rev
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
O wrote: It also seems very different from Marvel's usual tone and appears to have Marvel's best after credits scene ever.
they're saying it's a mid-credit scene and that there's no post credit scene. I wonder if they'll add it once it drops on the 11th? hope so lol
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Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:37 pm |
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zwackerm
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
The rumored Doom cameo is not in the version that was just screened. Possible it will be the post credit scene, as there was only a mid credits scene at the premiere
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Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:05 pm |
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Keyser Söze
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Re: Black Panther 2 predictions
its like any early reactions. Even Thor had the best of phase 4 comments. This seems a slight departure as its more gloomy than atypical MCU. I dont think even endgame has gloomy as they jump on to action pretty fast.
Looking at presales its still trailing Thor at 2 big chains(about 8-10% and pace is about 60% of thor). Let us see how the social media reactions drive the presales. For now I am sticking to 27/160m OW and based on actual reception predict the legs.
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Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:10 pm |
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