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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Flava'd vs The World wrote: The audit is not out yet but
The hand recounts much like the ones after the election just show that there were more Biden votes, not whether the Biden votes were real or not, hence the whole point of an audit.
I expect the audit to have results Republicans like, however it can be discredited by the other side as being done by partisan source, at the end of the day it'll just make people dig in more to their side and won't change much.
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:27 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Arizona audit delivered for me, while it can't prove 100% that it was stolen, at the very least I'm confident I'm saying the system is very unsecure and would be open to fraud if someone wanted to. So the choice is either keep such a sketchy system and just hope that nobody takes advantage of it in the future, because it's so valuable to "make voting easy", or just secure the system.
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:33 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
GOP would be mopping the floor with the DEMs if they just stopped with the Trump infomercial bullshit and played up being the party of fiscal responsibility and military might that they used to be. This Audit was such a joke.
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
They'll probably audit the audit in Arizona once the audit finishes up in Texas (Abbot obeying Trump's order in just 8 hours of receiving it). Trump asks, Trump receives with the GOP.
We'll probably have a least half a dozen audits before the midterms. And please let Trump run in 2024 so he can order the field to drop out so he can become the automatic nominee.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Trump running again would be a disaster. He only has popularity within his party.
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Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:28 am |
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Shack
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Trump running again would be a disaster. He only has popularity within his party. Currently so does Biden, though (he is sinking with independents according to recent polls). Maybe running high floor candidate in Trump and then letting Democrats becoming less popular by 2024 is not a bad strategy.
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Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:12 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
As an independent, I can tell you we have no desire to deal with Trump again. But then again I did not vote for him in 2016 when a lot like me did.
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Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:38 pm |
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Cynosure
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Why would Trump want an audit in a state that he won?
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:27 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
To keep the feeling alive that the election was not to be trusted and he needs his allies to go through with it. I think there was an interview that leaked that was between Graham and Trump where Graham get Trump to accept he lost, but Trump states that he has to keep fighting the election results or risk losing his base.
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:13 am |
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Flava'd vs The World
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Trump benefits when Americans are severed from reality. Doing anything to make people doubt that what is around them is real is a plus for him.
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:16 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Call me crazy but firing hospital workers during a pandemic seems like nuttery to me. I heard it's a solid 15% of hospital workers there and 25% in some areas
That's before considering that these are the heroes of this thing if anyone is.
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:55 pm |
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Steve
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
I agree, that is nuts. The mental gymnastics this pandemic got goin... everyone is crazy now. On all sides. If you (meaning anyone) feel 100% certain of your worldview right now, I promise you’re crazy too
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Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:25 am |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Any Democrat that supports vaccine mandates is gonna tank with minority voters. Can't believe they think this is a good idea.
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Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:13 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Moscow Mitch McConnel has voted for the us to default on its loans and shut down the government. Its so funny that you never hear anything about the federal deficit when a republican is in office, and ole Triple M never has any problem raising the ceiling. But when a Dem is in office, he votes to not payback the money that he already voted to spend.
Crashing the economy to own the libs = the Republican way.
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Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:03 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
And we know that he will face no consequences for his actions. I just hope there comes a day when republican voters actually put some value into someone’s moral integrity. You know, vote for people who will help those they like instead of voting for people who will hurt those they don’t like. I’ll probably be long dead by the time it happens, if it ever does.
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Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:16 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Flava'd vs The World wrote: Moscow Mitch McConnel has voted for the us to default on its loans and shut down the government. Its so funny that you never hear anything about the federal deficit when a republican is in office, and ole Triple M never has any problem raising the ceiling. But when a Dem is in office, he votes to not payback the money that he already voted to spend.
Crashing the economy to own the libs = the Republican way. The Democrats have the power to raise the debt ceiling on their own, it would just be annoying and take a few weeks and they wanted the Republicans in on it so fiscal conservative voters blame them for it
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Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:09 pm |
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Cynosure
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
It's all political theater. Once the financial collapse looms, big corporations will pick up their phones, call the senators and order them to vote for an increase in the debt ceiling, which they will do promptly.
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Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 am |
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Shack
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Quote: Many breathed a sigh of relief when President Biden was elected, not for policy but for a reunification of the country after four years of tumult and fiery division under President Trump. But eight months into the new presidency, America's deep disunity might not be letting up.
A new poll has revealed that political divisions run so deep in the US that over half of Trump voters want red states to secede from the union, and 41% of Biden voters want blue states to split off.
According to the analysis from the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, 52% of Trump voters at least somewhat agree with the statement: 'The situation is such that I would favor [Blue/Red] states seceding from the union to form their own separate country.' Twenty-five percent of Trump voters strongly agree.
Meanwhile, 41% of Biden voters at least somewhat agree with the sentiment, while 18% strongly agree.
Over 40% of voters in both parties favor abolishing the checks and balances built into federal government and handing essentially full control to the president.
Forty-six percent of Biden voters at least somewhat agreed, 22% strongly, with the statement: 'It would be better for America if whoever is president could take needed actions without being constrained by Congress or the courts.' Forty-four percent of Trump voters at least somewhat agreed, 19% strongly.
Still, Trump and Biden voters agreed that democracy was preferable to any other governing system, at least 80% of them did. Trump and Biden voters, 6 in 10 of them, also agreed with the idea that America is not a representative democracy but more a system that is run and rigged for the benefit of the wealthy.
Gone are the days of friendships between the parties, according to the poll.
Over 75% of voters on both sides agreed with the statement: 'I believe that Americans who strongly support the [OPP_PARTY] have become a clear and present danger to the American way of life.' Seventy-five percent of Biden voters at least somewhat agreed with the statement, as did 78% of Trump voters.
Meanwhile, 56% of Biden voters at least somewhat agreed with the statement 'There's no real difference between Republicans and Fascists' and 76% of Trump voters agreed with the statement 'There's no real difference between Democrats and Socialists.' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... union.htmlSuch a strange mirror reality. Both sides basically think the same thing it's just about the other party.
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Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:09 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
A little harsh but I'd take it over writing a fake nice eulogy about someone he hated. Best response was probably to say nothing at all if he had nothing nice to say about him.
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Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:43 pm |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
"I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach"
Lol, one line to cost McAuliffe the VA governorship.
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Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:43 am |
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Shack
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Even if Democrats win by a few percent it will be a good sign for Republicans in a Biden +10 state.
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Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:22 pm |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Things are looking good for Youngkin in VA. Most polls have them tied now and some have Youngkin pulled ahead.
Especially since Republicans have outperformed polling in the last few years other than the California recall.
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Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:46 am |
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Cynosure
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Democrats going after the parents is such a losing strategy it's a wonder they were even dumb enough to try it. Youngkin is leading 56% to 39% among parents of K-12 children, and independents are firmly on the republican side on this issue. If you want to do it, fine, but at least don't say it out loud.
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Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:39 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Hoping for a Youngkin win and a NJ governor race within 5%, which is honestly not much better than Murphy losing.
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Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:43 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
Libs right now
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Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:36 pm |
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