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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
I think it’s pretty clear that theaters will survive in some fashion. The main difference will be a lot more high profile straight to streaming releases, as evidenced by the recent WB and Disney announcements. But I think theaters could return to the pre pandemic popularity after a decade or so if studios/theaters play their cards right.
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lilmac
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
There is a long history of short memories. The rebound will start much sooner, 2022 but that’s IF studios revert back to the old exclusivity windows. If it remains common practice to send big budget movie to streaming after say, week 4, then boxoffice revenues will forever be handicapped.
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Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:38 am |
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j_forest23
Star Trek XI
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:16 pm Posts: 386
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
publicenemy#1 wrote: ... they're not turning back lol. You know how much of a PR nightmare that'd be?
I do think this is gonna backfire. Good for consumers saving money, horrible for Hollywood. If Disney follows suit then idk. They abso-fucking-lutely should turn the fuck back. This is going to put movie theaters out of business. God bless Timmy Chalamet for making a statement with that Legendary hoodie
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Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:32 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:51 pm Posts: 11637
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
I do think they will survive. It is hard for us to see things right now. 1918 flu epidemic was much worse and then the roaring 20s followed and people seemed to move on.
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Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:05 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
We also need to consider that many people in the U.S. don't have the funds to take either themselves or their families out to the movies right now. The Government, as of this weekend, isn't providing ANY financial support for those that lost their jobs at no fault of their own right now. They were beyond careless and let unemployment benefits lapse during the holidays of all times. And there's been no relief for businesses (theaters included) in 9 months.
Going to the movies is far from the minds of many in the country right now.
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Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:19 pm |
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Magnus
KJ's Most Embarssing Misspeller
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:20 pm Posts: 106 Location: The District
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
bump
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:01 am |
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Magnus
KJ's Most Embarssing Misspeller
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:20 pm Posts: 106 Location: The District
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
its never going to be the same again and we need to accept this sooner than later. theaters will still exist but the theatrical model that we have had our whole lives is dead.
_________________MadGez wrote: Listen to Magnus he knows his shit. Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Magnus is right trixster wrote: magnus is my hero Loyal wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Magnus is the fucking voice of reason. That's scary. zwackerm wrote: You're incredibly overrated and and if they made a Pixar film about you it would gross less than The Good Dinosaur.
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:03 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
RIP indeed...
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:12 am |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 21929 Location: Places
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Nope. THE BATMAN will save it.
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:39 am |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22733 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Yes - the days of annual $10+ billion domestic BO hauls are certainly over.
But I do believe the box office will settle to a new overall $$ level (perhaps half of current) where revenue is more evenly split between theatrical and home streaming.
How it impacts film budgets, types of films made, revenue sharing % with exhibitors, viability of some theatre chains etc is up in the air and TBC
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:30 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
It's too early to declare this, but if things can't turn around in the fall/winter. yikes
The real scary things are the drops moreso than the openings.
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:37 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22733 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
zwackerm wrote: It's too early to declare this, but if things can't turn around in the fall/winter. yikes
The real scary things are the drops moreso than the openings. Yes - the drops have been alarming.
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:44 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22733 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Here are all the wide releases post summer. Unlike Summer - this is a solid full slate.
The September releases may be OK but don't hold out much hope for anything from October onwards....
September
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Clifford the Big Red Dog Copshop Dear Evan Hansen Venom 2
October
October 1 The Addams Family 2 Hotel Transylvania: Transformania The Many Saints of Newark
October 8 No Time to Die
October 15 The Last Duel Halloween Kills
October 22 Dune Jackass Forever Ron's Gone Wrong The French Dispatch (Limited but worth noting)
October 29 Last Night in Soho Antlers
November 5 Eternals
November 11 Ghostbusters: Afterlife
November 19 Top Gun: Maverick King Richard
November 24 Encanto Resident Evil sequel
December 3 Nightmare Alley Wolf
December 10 American Underdog West Side Story
December 17 Spider-man: No Way Home
December 22 Matrix 4 Sing 2 A Journal for Jordan The King's Man The Nightingale
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:44 pm |
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Jiffy
Forum General
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6145 Location: New York
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Magnus wrote: its never going to be the same again and we need to accept this sooner than later. theaters will still exist but the theatrical model that we have had our whole lives is dead. I'm still clinging to a bit of denial cuz why not. Fuckin studios, man. Having the industry propped up by MCU and live-action remakes was only going to be sustainable for so long, I guess.
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Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:29 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:51 pm Posts: 11637
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
MadGez wrote: Here are all the wide releases post summer. Unlike Summer - this is a solid full slate.
The September releases may be OK but don't hold out much hope for anything from October onwards....
September
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Clifford the Big Red Dog Copshop Dear Evan Hansen Venom 2
October
October 1 The Addams Family 2 Hotel Transylvania: Transformania The Many Saints of Newark
October 8 No Time to Die
October 15 The Last Duel Halloween Kills
October 22 Dune Jackass Forever Ron's Gone Wrong The French Dispatch (Limited but worth noting)
October 29 Last Night in Soho Antlers
November 5 Eternals
November 11 Ghostbusters: Afterlife
November 19 Top Gun: Maverick King Richard
November 24 Encanto Resident Evil sequel
December 3 Nightmare Alley Wolf
December 10 American Underdog West Side Story
December 17 Spider-man: No Way Home
December 22 Matrix 4 Sing 2 A Journal for Jordan The King's Man The Nightingale I am assuming you mistyped because the October- December releases look better than this summer, Now the virus could change things but on paper, Spiderman No Way Home, No Time to Die, Ghostbusters Afterlife, Top Gun: Maverick, Sing 2, Dune, and Halloween Kills all look great. I mean I am not sure about Matrix 4 and West Side Story, but those were iffy projects before the pandemic.
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:17 am |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 38240
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
You can't really judge whether things will be the same again until the rest of the world is the same and covid is an afterthought.
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:12 pm |
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Jiffy
Forum General
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6145 Location: New York
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Maybe we can pray for Jim Cameron to come through again and give the industry another shot in the arm.
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:13 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23908 Location: Classified
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Jiffy wrote: Maybe we can pray for Jim Cameron to come through again and give the industry another shot in the arm. Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5 should be ready in time for the next plague!
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:39 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Flava'd vs The World wrote: Jiffy wrote: Maybe we can pray for Jim Cameron to come through again and give the industry another shot in the arm. Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5 should be ready in time for the next plague! And he will beat that plague as well.
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:12 pm |
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j_forest23
Star Trek XI
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:16 pm Posts: 386
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
I really don’t fucking care about marvel movies and whatever, how about dramas and comedies in theaters? No reason they can’t go there not everything has to be Netflix movies, they look relatively low budget on there and not mid budget like theater movies
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Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:55 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
j_forest23 wrote: I really don’t fucking care about marvel movies and whatever, how about dramas and comedies in theaters? No reason they can’t go there not everything has to be Netflix movies, they look relatively low budget on there and not mid budget like theater movies More and more will be back in theaters, be patient! look at December! lots of dramas for oscar season
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Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:23 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Indeed movies are just starting to find their footing. I'm sure medium sized movies will eventually find their way into theaters.
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Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:39 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
Considering Netflix has been experimenting with 1-2 week theatrical windows this year for Army of the Dead and Red Notice, would not shock me if they started adapting a full theatrical window in the future.
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Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:02 am |
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lilmac
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
I saw a quote somewhere by Netflix that they want to change the perception of movie watching from ‘going to the movies’ to watching movies at home. They want your muscle memory trained to think of Netflix first then movie theaters when you decide to watch a film. Even though they can make money releasing feature films in theater it may not be strategically advantageous to do so.
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Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:46 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: RIP Theatrical Film Distribution (1900 - 2020)
I do think Netflix's strategy has been evolving from home-viewing to coexist with theaters though they might change it again. One thing I believe COVID helped is even after a huge existential crisis for theaters they are coming back strong.
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Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:02 pm |
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