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Algren
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Creed III predictions
Take it with a pinch of salt, but Sly just announced that Creed II will be Rocky's final appearance. He's said this type of thing many times before, but let's just entertain the notion that a third Creed doesn't have Rocky. What are the likely box office prospects? I'd say it goes down. Rocky is an obvious draw for many, many fans, and though fans have warmed to the Adonis character, he's no Rocky, and he's less interesting without Rocky as his support. Might even struggle to do $100m. Though, I must say, even the marketing for Creed II showed Rocky a lot less. Felt very much like a passing of the torch campaign. Sly did not even do any press for the film as he's filming Rambo V.
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lesterg
Indiana Jones IV
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
Yeah, he’s kind of the boy who cried wolf in regards to retiring Rambo, Rocky, etc. And he loves to negotiate in the press.
But if he’s serious, yeah it’ll drop a fair amount. I guess it’s possible that Jordan’s ever increasing starpower might help though.
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nghtvsn
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
Here's what he could do since he's already 70 something, right?
Be Uncle Ben.
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Thegun
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
He already was that in Rocky V and Creed 1. They just didn't kill him.
They very much used up all of the Rocky fuel in this one. He avenged his father, brought Drago back, Rocky reunited with his son (again, lol)
He can't just disappear, he'll have to appear. Use him like Mickey in part V. Final send off see him visit Adrian, Pualy, Apollo, and finally Rocky's grave. Then he hugs his wife and kid. End of series.
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Algren
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
There's always Ghost Rocky.
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:34 pm |
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Proud Ryu
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
We open with Ludmilla Drago going to see her other, favorite son (with another father), who has been secretly trained, groomed, and biologically enhanced by Russia (with Ludmilla's help) as part of a broader plan to bring Russian dominance back to sport. He fights Viktor and kills him in the ring. A broken Ivan reflects on his life and match with Apollo, and issues apology to Adonis and Rocky, also stating he has information about Russia's underground program. Together, Ivan and Rocky train Adonis to defeat Ludmilla's son. In the aftermath, Russia's program is exposed (turns out it went much deeper and more sinister than what was exposed in real life) and is permanently shut down. Ludmilla and son are arrested for criminal activity. Years later, having fully reunited with his family, Rocky passes away peacefully. Perhaps Ghost Rocky at the end inspires Amara to become the next Rhonda Rousey (after all Adonis calls her a fighter in Creed II). This is the only Creed III I want to see
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Algren
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
Only one boxing match?
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Shack
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
The next movie is probably the one where Rocky dies in the middle like Mickey. Then comes back in a flashback in future film
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Algren
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
Well, Stallone said that Creed II was his final appearance as Rocky, so he shouldn't even be in the next one. I am not sure they will be so eager to make a third. The second is hardly lighting up the box office. And doing it without Rocky would be box office suicide. I am sure Stallone only said it to conjure up some late buzz for part two. So we'll see.
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lesterg
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
It's going to outgross the first Creed domestically. I can't imagine they wouldn't make another unless Jordan didn't want to.
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Proud Ryu
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
Algren wrote: Only one boxing match? Villain v. Viktor and Creed v. Villain, plus I imagine some mini boss for Creed and perhaps a montage of Villain quickly bulldozing through cannon fodder prior to Viktor.
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Algren
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Re: Creed III without Rocky
Creed III without Sly but with Deontay Wilder as Clubber Lang's son (and of course Mr. T would have a role) would probably still make around $100 million.
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:29 am |
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Algren
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Re: Creed III predictions
They should kiss.
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stuffp
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Re: Creed III predictions
I'm curious to the result, but I don't like anything I've seen from it so far.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
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Re: Creed III predictions
Awareness is solid. It should open between $30-$35m which would be similar to the first two films.
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zwackerm
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Re: Creed III predictions
I think it will do really well. They're really pushing the premium screens/Imax for this one. Think it will at least match the first 2.
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Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:34 am |
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Algren
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Re: Creed III predictions
I see it doing well, too. It's looking at a minimum $85m total and likely above $100m like the first two.
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Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:30 pm |
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Algren
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Re: Creed III predictions
Poll added
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Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:51 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
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Re: Creed III predictions
The ads for this movie have been really strong. Unlike the first two Creeds, this feels like a film that anyone could walk into and understand even if you've never seen any other movies in the Rocky franchise. I could see it opening to like $50M.
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zwackerm
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Re: Creed III predictions
Reviews are strong, on par with the 2nd.
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