I am working on re-skinning the main site. I call it a re-skin rather than a re-design simply because the layout will remain the same, I am only changing the color.

The reason for this is based on feedback I have received, right since the day I put the design into place, alerting me to the fact that white text is no fun to read. I personally like the black design, but I have received way to many opinions of a similar mold from way to many people not to take it into account. Therefore, I made the decision a little while back to move us to a white design. With the new forum in place, I am now making that my priority and hope to have it finished later this week.

I realize some of you may be going and thinking, "Hey, I liked the black!" You are not alone, but the simple fact is, long articles are a bit painful to read in white text/black background, and as a site, we can't have readers leaving or not finishing articles for this reason.


So why the thread? What do you want from me?!

I would like you to look at the new color design and let me know if there is anything you think should be changed. Not all changes and ideas will be used, but I will do my best to listen to everyone and incorporate as many as possible.

You can feel free to suggest layout suggestions, but all I will do is log them for a later time. Right now, I am looking for opinions and suggestions on the color/theme/appearance of the site.

I have also added a new 'favicon' for World of KJ. If you clear your cache and visit the site (new or old) you should see it if you use a tabbed browser next to the title of the page.

If you don't mind, please don't use this thread to discuss the merits of black vs white text. That decision has been made, and I want this thread to be for suggestions related to changes with the new design.

Fire away!



Old Site: http://www.worldofkj.com" target="_blank
New Design: http://www.worldofkj.com/index_new.php" target="_blank

I like the 1st one.

Muy Bueno.

What's odd is that in the current design, when I'm using a Mac the text is black on black, making it impossible to read without highlighting it (thus turning it white with a blue highlight background). On my PC, it's fine though. I wonder why that is?

I definitely like the new, white one better. Fits with the forum theme I have going.

I'm not really sure, it could be a browser issue, but I'm not entirely sure.


Does anyone see anything they would like changed about the new, white, version?

I like the new one simply because it matches the forum theme. That is something very important in my opinion.

On a Mac, I use Safari.

Looks fine to me. Could you have your preferences set weird? Or are you using the 3.0 beta?

Yah, matching the site with the forum will make it seem all as one instead of being the "World of KJ Site" and the "World of KJ Forum", it will more consistent! So yes, go with the white.

The new coloring looks great. As for the layout though, will it eventually be changed so the full article titles aren't cramped or offscreen. That's my only complaint about the new and old look. Other than that, it looks fantastic.

I'm on one of the darker skins for the forum. That would do jsut the opposite for me.

Personally I prefer a black backround. You have ay idea what looking ata bright white backround does for your eyes? Here's an idea: go look at a lightbulb. That might give you a hint.

Eh, us forum dwellers that are on here every day can handle it! Even if we do look like this after awhile.....

Less than 15 people are on a dark background, while over 9000 + guests are on a white, so the vast majority are on white.

Regardless, like I said, the decision is made, I just want to know if there was anything you guys think could be improved on the new design. A color changed, a edge circular instead of square, etc.

Not exactly on topic - - but I miss the "Mark Topics Read" feature on the main "Board Index" page - - now you've got to go to each forum separately to do this...

That's why I use SubSilver instead of Serenity.

Thanx for the tip, jujubee!

I've now switched over to SubSilver and it's actually more readable - - I'd tried a couple of the other skins at first and found them frightening...

There is still a feature to mark all the forums read on the board index, it is at the bottom of the last forum.

Yeah, I like consistency with the new one too.

Could we reduce the height of Google ads?

Love the colour change Karl.

I still feel all the recent news and reviews are so bunched together they seem very unimportant and uninteresting. And I can't put my finger on it, but the page somewhat reminds me of those websites where you'd miss one letter from a real website and it'd lead you to some sketchy website...like typing in fandago.com instead of fandango for instance. Like it doesn't have that original, branded feel to it. The main title is just too generic looking.

EDIT: I think the font (of just about everything) needs to be changed to a more unconventional one as well. That could part of what makes it look so plain.

Just my opinions, don't take this as me bashing anyone's work or expecting all these changes to be made, just my honest take on it.

white gives space....white is professional...i know this because i prefer black.

that is all.

still your site is pwning....its much better than BOM....who are you ? is this site a fan site or what ? does it have the status of BOM ? are you in the ranks of brandon gray ? or you're just a fan ?

what does this kj thing stand for ?

i think you should also think about changing the domain name ....worldofkj is lame...not very lame but you can fish a better one....

we can share ideas about the name and vote and stuff...its not gonna cost you alot...go ahead and kick it off...5000 registered users is a small number....