That's the really sad thing. War could be breaking out again in the Ivory Coast, thousands could get killed in Sudan, a war between several countries could be fought in Congo (Africa's so called "first world war") and yet the media would hardly let you know about it. In fact there was almost nothing in the media about the Taliban until after September 11th. On September 10th 2001 I bet that no more then 3% of Americans could have told you who the Taliban were.

I read a bit about it before. Isn't there an Assyrian language?

Unfortunately, most people are eventually indoctrinated into the cult of numb acceptance and will eventually be brainwashed by the state into tolerating anything. American soldiers torture and kill prisoners every day. Eventually, it will become so commonplace that it will occur on an increasingly larger scale, until it potentially rivals some of the abuses of the Nazis, or Stalin's thugs. Amazingly, some Israelis (of all people) turn a blind eye to the slaughter of 100,000 innocent Iraqis because they couldn't possibly care less. In fact, some may even sanction the use of genocide against the enemies of Israel.

Ya, but it's officially called Syriac-Chaldean or Aramaic or something like that.


It's the modern dialect of the Aramaic spoken in Palestine and the Middle East in general during Jesus' time.

You can find people like that in every country and culture. Simply because someone belongs to a certain group doesn't mean they all act or react the same to different situations.

There were people in the Nazi party or those who collaborated who you could group as relatively 'good' people. Schindler is probably the most famous example, but there were others (those all in all, a surprising and disturbing rarity). And in turn, there were Jews and other prisoners who helped the Nazis in order to save their own skin (though of course they too were gotten rid of as soon as they were deemed useless).

The point here isn't whether people accept this or not; the survey did not asl whether people accepted what happened in Auschwitz. It asked whether they knew what Auschwitz was. They're not blindly accepting anything, they are just blind. I'm not saying that ignorance is an excuse, it's not; I think it is actually a form of evil in of itself, though much different from someone knowing what Auschwitz refers to and accepting it.

Oh, I totally got that. It's just that MOST people fervently desire to be led by the nose by authority figures, and they would prefer to see people FORGET about the atrocities of WW II. (Don't even ASK about Dresden, as it was totally covered up... as no one wanted to create any sympathy for the Germans. They were the monsters, and the creators of US propaganda wanted everyone to believe it. Then, within a generation, they were our friends again, and so were the Japanese.

Americans have a limited sense of history. (They don't call them "The UNITED STATES of AMNESIA for nothing.) Americans remember what the media WANTS them to remember. Most of these sheep will never pick up another history book the moment the graduate from high school (or even college) because they prefer to graze in a state of comfortable numbness.

BTW: The true number to remember from the the camps is 12 million... but who speaks for the exterminated Gypsies, Commies and Gays?

Well, 7-11m, but depending on how broad the definition is. I think the most specific would be 7m killed in concentration camps, 6m Jews, 1m others, but other actrocities were committed during the onslaught on Central and Eastern Europe, etc. you're right.


I agree about Americans being ignorant on a slew of issues, and not attention being paid to a lot of others as well. The Rape of Nanking, for example. How do you kill 300,000 people and end up with such a good image as Japan? The atrocities committed by them during WW2 rivsl that of the Nazis. Check out some of the gruesome images (or don't); I honestly wouldn;t be able to tell the difference between those and the ones in Europe.

But this is a general feature of many cultures and ages; the ignorance always disturbs me, and it always seems to be present.

Of course. And one of the favourite quotes of conspiracy theorists reads as follows:



Everything you "see" now is media manipulation. The recent "war" (=turkey shoot) in Iraq is a perfect example. Is it any wonder that so many Brits have forgotten about the camps. They've WILLED themselves into a state of oblivion, because they know that they're all expendable passengers on a runaway train... and they'd rather NOT know anything about the sleazy SOB at the throttle.

If we could turn back the clock to the 1930s, then look at the things that the USA is doing in the world, we'd regard them with the same contempt we once reserved for the Nazis. It's only a matter of time before the GOP nutcases seize power, and these are the same RW conservative sociopaths that led Germany to its ruination. These Republicans will eventually destroy the US as well, and most of the sheep instinctively sense it. But what the hell can they do now? And what the hell could the German people do about the camps in 1941? Not a god-damn thing.

You know no matter how many times I see this, it still makes me physiclly ill. We have a Holocaust museum very clsoe to me and several local Holocaust surviviors give talks about what they went through. I've listend to them all several times, and its never gets any easeier to hear them talk.

Yeah, I figured it would be a semetic language. I actually used to know quite a bit of Aramaic, however, I'm not sure I remember much of it anymore. It's been almost 4 years since I got out of the Yeshiva (Jewish-religious high school). But there we would learn the Talmud in Aramaic every day.