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Eagle
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 Kong Mania - Your opinions solicited
As you all by now know, there are a gazillion and a half Kong threads.
Please help us decide how to solve this problem.
Kong Threads:
King Kong Prediction/Tracking Thread
New Kong "Guesstimates"
King Kong: What Went Wrong
Tracking King Kong-Peter Jackson v. Himself? (his tracking threads are often great)
KONG'S WOM is Insane!
The Thread Where BKB Declares KONG DEAD..
Flashback KING KONG 1976
KING KONG - Monday to Thursday
The list goes on.
Simply put, it overwhelms the forum.
Some options:
1) Merge all extra prediction type Kong threads to one Big prediction thread. Merge all general talk Kong threads into one big "King Kong - WOM, Bomb?, All Other Talk" thread.
2) Create a Kong Subforum, the subforum would only be around for a few weeks at most, and then merged back into the box office bash forum.
3) Your idea (not really looking for you to say, "i like it the way it is")
Help appreciated.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:48 am |
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Goldie
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 Re: Kong Mania - Your opinions solicited
think that all of the whinning bitches, including yourself, should shut up and just suck it up.
Just joking!!!
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Seriously, I think any major movie should get a 1 to 2 week period where you are going to expect extra threads.
Really how many of these happen in a year.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:50 am |
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A. G.
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I haven't seen any problem. Whenever a hugely anticipated movie opens, which is like once or twice a year, there are briefly a lot of threads on the subject. To me it is just a sign of enthusiasm which is a good thing even if it goes overboard. One or two of the excessive ones or off topic ones should be trimmed from time to time maybe. Its a temporary phenomenon that comes from excitement and will pass in a couple weeks. It won't happen again till mid-summer next year.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:55 am |
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Eagle
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 Re: Kong Mania - Your opinions solicited
Goldie wrote: think that all of the whinning bitches, including yourself, should shut up and just suck it up.
Just joking!!!
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Seriously, I think any major movie should get a 1 to 2 week period where you are going to expect extra threads.
Really how many of these happen in a year.
I would say this winter it has happened for HP, Narnia, and Kong. In the summer it happened for Star Wars even more.
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Eagle
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Archie Gates wrote: I haven't seen any problem. Whenever a hugely anticipated movie opens, which is like once or twice a year, there are briefly a lot of threads on the subject. To me it is just a sign of enthusiasm which is a good thing even if it goes overboard. One or two of the excessive ones or off topic ones should be trimmed from time to time but in general it doesn't hurt anything assuming it dies down in 3 or so weeks. Its a temporary phenomenon that comes from excitement and will pass in a couple weeks. It won't happen again till mid-summer next year.
What criteria should we use for what threads stay?
Obviously we know there will be a prediction thread, what other ones should we keep? What threads should we trim?
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:57 am |
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Goldie
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Eagle wrote: Archie Gates wrote: I haven't seen any problem. Whenever a hugely anticipated movie opens, which is like once or twice a year, there are briefly a lot of threads on the subject. To me it is just a sign of enthusiasm which is a good thing even if it goes overboard. One or two of the excessive ones or off topic ones should be trimmed from time to time but in general it doesn't hurt anything assuming it dies down in 3 or so weeks. Its a temporary phenomenon that comes from excitement and will pass in a couple weeks. It won't happen again till mid-summer next year. What criteria should we use for what threads stay? Obviously we know there will be a prediction thread, what other ones should we keep? What threads should we trim?
but then for say the BO thread, what happens when say someone wants to / continues to track a film from a month or two ago. Where are the limits?
How do you decide what should be allowed and not allowed?
and different threads with different questions bring questions to different directions that the thread starter might want to explore.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:04 am |
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A. G.
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Eagle wrote: Archie Gates wrote: I haven't seen any problem. Whenever a hugely anticipated movie opens, which is like once or twice a year, there are briefly a lot of threads on the subject. To me it is just a sign of enthusiasm which is a good thing even if it goes overboard. One or two of the excessive ones or off topic ones should be trimmed from time to time but in general it doesn't hurt anything assuming it dies down in 3 or so weeks. Its a temporary phenomenon that comes from excitement and will pass in a couple weeks. It won't happen again till mid-summer next year. What criteria should we use for what threads stay? Obviously we know there will be a prediction thread, what other ones should we keep? What threads should we trim?
Keep all of them except for offtopic ones that belong in Cinemania or any obvious duplicates or intentional disruptive spam. If something must go, the Kong WOM one can go to Cinemania. I'm looking at the Box Office Bash thread list right now, I don't see it overwhelmed. Back when RotK and similar movies opened on BOM it would have been 3/4 the page threads about those movies, this is mild by comparison. I'd let it go and chalk it up to just enthusiasm about movies which is something healthy for this site. Of course like I said if weeks go by and half the page is still covered in Kong threads, then that's an issue but I doubt it will happen. Adrenaline fades.
To the extent there is any problem it is more about 2 or 3 guys having the same conversation in each one, Kong dissers vs PJ heads. I'd ask one or two of the excessive ones privately to tone it down but I suspect that has already been done.
Personally I enjoy this when it happens when rare big movies open and the prediction forum goes temporarily chaotic and excessive. Like when it happened with Matrix Reloaded back on BOM.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:11 am |
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Eagle
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I really don't have answers for ya goldie!
Thats why the thread. My mind is kinda in a boggle over all this.
On one hand, Archie is totally right. This is just a by-product of hype, and the different threads tend to generate different discussion.
On the otherhand, it is hard to watch a whole forum get taken over by one topic.
Sometimes I see it as excessive, other times I see it as a natural thing. Part of me thinks the subforum could work perfectly, another part of me thinks it is un-needed.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:13 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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I would say keep the ones you listed open, but allow no more from now on.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:20 pm |
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Goldie
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I would say keep the ones you listed open, but allow no more from now on.
Disagree as next weekend might produce some additional questions - where someone might want to base the question on the 2nd weekend's results.
I still say let it ride for a 2 week period - and didn't Loyal proclaim KONG as the years big film - then most people will be satisfied after 2 good weeks and will be moving onto new topics and then big deal if there is 1 or 2 threads in the 3rd week on.
so says Goldie.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:43 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Shut up
so says Lecter
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:24 pm |
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Goldie
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Shut up
so says Lecter
and here is my first time using the report button - real tired of this normal Lecter attitide as I wrote a discussion point and Lecter comes back with stuff like this.
I personally feel that Lecter's post wasn't needed or if he felt that way - bring it to a MOD by PM.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:53 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Yup.
Shut up.
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dolcevita
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Doesn't really bother me. Its always just a week or two, and I think anyone who is worried about their smaller threads about movies that don't have those huge runs should just plant them, you know where, and then they won't be dwarfed by the next big thing movies.
I think there's natural editing that goes on. When people get tired of a topic, they don't post in every thread that pops up on it, and those threads sink quickly. As long as they're interested and post, then there's really no problem with the first few threads on a page being about that movie. There's interest.
Daily prediction threads should go into general prediction/tracking threads, that's about it. :-)
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:57 pm |
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Goldie
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Yup.
Shut up.
Reported again - guess Lecter again feels he can do whatever he wants???
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:01 pm |
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Box
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No locking. Let the users judge for themselves. If they want to post in them, they will. If not, the threads will quickly disappear. Even if 95% of the threads are KK related, all that tells me is that people are interested in the film. If anyone wants diversity, start threads on other films.
Edit: this is my 7,000th post??? URGH URGH URGH!
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:03 pm |
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Don't bother me as well...and basically agree with box, dolce and goldie.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:26 pm |
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Goldie wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I would say keep the ones you listed open, but allow no more from now on. Disagree as next weekend might produce some additional questions - where someone might want to base the question on the 2nd weekend's results. I still say let it ride for a 2 week period - and didn't Loyal proclaim KONG as the years big film - then most people will be satisfied after 2 good weeks and will be moving onto new topics and then big deal if there is 1 or 2 threads in the 3rd week on.
so says Goldie.
Don't bring me up, lol
Many people proclaimed Kong as the years big film.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:56 pm |
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Goldie
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Goldie wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I would say keep the ones you listed open, but allow no more from now on. Disagree as next weekend might produce some additional questions - where someone might want to base the question on the 2nd weekend's results. I still say let it ride for a 2 week period - and didn't Loyal proclaim KONG as the years big film - then most people will be satisfied after 2 good weeks and will be moving onto new topics and then big deal if there is 1 or 2 threads in the 3rd week on.
so says Goldie.Don't bring me up, lol Many people proclaimed Kong as the years big film.
no problem or insult meant > just when you are producing back-up facts it is best to start with the biggest and work downwards.
and I agree, most said it was the years big one or at least the biggest one of the second half of the year.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:09 pm |
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matatonio
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i dont care...it really doesnt bother me, just dont allow more prediction threads
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:13 pm |
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Ahmed Johnson
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The more threads the better!
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Cotton
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Nebs wrote: Don't bother me as well...and basically agree with box, dolce and goldie.
Chalk me up as well. In fact, whenever people talk about locking/deleting threads, I always get flash-backs of those BOM nazis  I really don't see why the administration feels the need to intervene when no rules have been broken.
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:31 pm |
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Eagle
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3. Duplication of threads: Duplicating a thread already in existence will be discouraged, and in most cases, will be locked with a message pointing to the relevant thread to post in.
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:33 pm |
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Cotton
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Allright, than it would OK with me...as long as it's a direct duplication.
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:46 pm |
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kypade
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The problem, though, Cotton, is when there's only 25 threads on the first page, and you end up having...
"Kong Tracking" "Kong Prediction" "Predict Kong's Monday" (and tuesday and wednesday and thursday and friday), "What went wrong with Kong" "Kong has amazing WOM" "Kong has horrible WOM" "Kong will drop 0 percent" "Kong will drop 79 percent" "Kong<200m club" "Kong>200mil club" "Kong>300Mil club" "Kong>400mil club" "Kong will be in theaters for less than a month" "Kong will be in theaters for 6 months" "Predict how long Kong will be in theaters" "Can Kong hold its theaters for more than a month?" "Kong is a big animal" "There are animals bigger than Kong at your local zoo" "Sing a Song About Kong" "Kong" "King" "Mong"
Yknow? It's just a little bit too much.
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