Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
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Bradley Witherberry
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insomniacdude wrote: But for all of its shortcomings, the movie ceases to amaze me every time I see it.
..."never ceases", perhaps?!?
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Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:48 pm |
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insomniacdude
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bradley witherberry wrote: insomniacdude wrote: But for all of its shortcomings, the movie ceases to amaze me every time I see it. ..."never ceases", perhaps?!?
Probably 
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Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:29 pm |
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Schlomo
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I just saw it again, and I now think that it's my 2nd favorite SW movie. Here's the list...
1. Return Of The Jedi
2. Revenge Of The Sith
3. A New Hope
4. Attack Of The Clones
5. Empire Strikes Back
6. The Phantom Menace
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Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:48 pm |
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insomniacdude
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Schlomo wrote: I just saw it again, and I now think that it's my 2nd favorite SW movie. Here's the list...
1. Return Of The Jedi 2. Revenge Of The Sith 3. A New Hope 4. Attack Of The Clones 5. Empire Strikes Back 6. The Phantom Menace
* insomniacdude slaps Schlomo around a bit with a large trout
That's the craziest list I've ever seen.
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Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:16 pm |
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makeshift
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insomniacdude wrote: After four viewings, I've deduced this much about Star Wars:
-The dialogue, while far superior to that of its predessors, is still short of realistic standards. -The acting isn't as bad as some people say it is, and Hayden Christianson was actually able to convince me he was Anakin most of the time. -Natalie Portman did nothing but cry. -Lucas still cannot direct worht shit. -Grievous was a wasted character. -There were a lot fo open plot holes. -It's definitely in my top 30 of all time.
Zingaling can probably back me up here, because I took one of his posts as inspiration for mine.
ROTS has far too many flaws. The NOOO scream, over which people seem to be overreacting, is a bit too....laughable. Hayden Christianson did have some good moments, but there were several lines throughout the movie that were jsut so out of place and horribly given I had to snicker. Yoda's backward talk during his battle scene made him come off more annoying than badass.
But for all of its shortcomings, the movie ceases to amaze me every time I see it. Maybe its just the Star Wars fan getting the better of me (which I doubt, but nobody is perfect). The movie shows some great emotion and ties it to the originals very well, in spite of what a lot of people might say.
I'm sorry, but only a Star Wars film could have this many problems and still be applauded as one of the best films of all time.
The double standard we give some films... [-(
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Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:24 pm |
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insomniacdude
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I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY liked the second half of the movie, if that sheds some light on the situation.
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Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:49 pm |
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Erendis
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Star Wars wrote: insomniacdude wrote: Erendis wrote: RotS may have fared better if it had been stretched over 1.5 movies or so. I wanted more details of what went on in those 4-5 months As far as I know, the movie only takes place over a few days. Most Star Wars films have. Revenge of the Sith was over 4-5 months? eh? I think the longest "time" in Star Wars was The Empire Strikes Back which probably took around a month?
Very well then, RotS should have taken place over 4-5 months. I would liked to savor Anakin's fall.
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:30 pm |
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Michael.
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1. A New Hope [A] - The definition of blockbuster
2. Return of the Jedi [A-] Cheesy and drawn out at points, but fantastic fun and genuinely emotional
3. Revenge of the Sith [B++++/A-]One of the better blockbusters in the past 20 years. Dialogue hammy, but wonderful CG and storytelling. I was genuinely sad when the credits began to roll.
4. The Empire Strikes Back [B] Very poorly executed but its story and shining league of characters saves the day. Too much hammy and bloated character development which wasn't needed at all.
5. Attack of the Clones [B] Sure its better than TPM, and visually i was constantly in awe but it still had various problems
6. The Phantom Menace [B-] Fun, kiddy film which isn't going to break any new ground and featured some Horrific acting and dialogue. Aside from that it was valiant enough.
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:50 pm |
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insomniacdude
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Michael wrote: 4. The Empire Strikes Back [B] Very poorly executed but its story and shining league of characters saves the day. Too much hammy and bloated character development which wasn't needed at all.
Go die kthxbai. :wink:
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Much better than the other Star Wars films for the prequels, I like it. The graphics were great. I don't know where I would place it yet. A-
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Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:47 pm |
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This film was absolutely amazing! Definitely the best film of the year so far. The special effects were incredible, and the story was gripping enough. Natalie Portman did a great job, as did Hayden Christensen. I thought the whole transition to the dark side was executed brilliantly. Unlike the prequels the pacing here was damn near perfect. There was definitely more action sequences than dialogue, which worked for me. The opening was awesome, and it was fun to watch. The battle between Obi Wan, and General Grievous was was great. Also the battle between Obi Wan and Anakin was the best part of the movie. Yoda kicked total ass in the movie. I was cheering for his character to beat the living shit out of Chancellor Palpatine. That part was just so much fun to watch. Seeing all of the good guys die was sad to watch, but it was inevitable. The only complaint I have is the atrocious dialogue, but that really wasn't a big deal for me, as the action, and story more than made up for this little flaw.
A+
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Best Movie of the Year so far, by far (but BB and March of the Penguins were very good too)
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:33 pm |
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Algren
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At this point in time exactly 60% people give WOTW a A and also 60% people give Star Wars III an A.
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71 A & B grade =D> nice for SITH
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Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:51 pm |
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Atoddr
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Ok, I FINALLY saw this and I'm surprised how much I liked it. I loved A New Hope and The Empire Strikes as well as the first half of Return Of The Jedi. The Phantom Menace was OK and Attack Of The Clones was disappointing, but I may even appreciate those a little more in light of the trilogy as a whole. In spite of a week beginning, this quickly became quite gripping. The acting was better and there was geniune suspense and intensity. My only complaint is Anakin's conversion to the dark side seemed to be too quick and unconvincing. I know the Sith Lord had been working on him for a while, but it still seemed too easy. Maybe if Christenson was a better actor it might have been better.
I liked the fact that the visuals and effect in the final battle sequences added to the story and didn't take away from it. It was a very satisfying conclusion to a great series. My grade: A.
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:51 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Algren wrote: At this point in time exactly 60% people give WOTW a A and also 60% people give Star Wars III an A.
I'm guessing that means that the 50% of people rated SW an A have good taste, while the 50% of people who rated WOTW an A have bad taste, and the 10% overlap is for people who can't tell their heads from their asses...

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Star Wars
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Quote: -The dialogue, while far superior to that of its predessors, is still short of realistic standards. Aside from the "NOOO!!" scream, the dialogue was absolutely perfect, especially for kids. Star Wars is a movie for kids, so don't expect a Casablanca love story or anything. Quote: -The acting isn't as bad as some people say it is, and Hayden Christianson was actually able to convince me he was Anakin most of the time. The actors all deserve awards. Quote: -Natalie Portman did nothing but cry. At the end... yes, but then again she just found out her husband was murdering her friends and such, wouldn't you cry? Quote: -Lucas still cannot direct worht shit. His 2 nominations and 6 movies disagree. Quote: -Grievous was a wasted character. Eh, well there wasn't much for him to do, and you have to watch CW. Quote: -There were a lot fo open plot holes.
No there wasn't.
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:29 pm |
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BacktotheFuture
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I love the comebacks.
I thought the movie was great but the actors don't deserve shit. Lucas deserves special effects and that's all.
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:40 pm |
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insomniacdude
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BacktotheFuture wrote: I love the comebacks.
To a post that's half a year old, at that.
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zingy
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Star Wars wrote: Quote: -The acting isn't as bad as some people say it is, and Hayden Christianson was actually able to convince me he was Anakin most of the time. The actors all deserve awards.
PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE JOKING.
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Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:42 am |
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Hoban Washburne
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i completely agree with makeshifts post from 5 months ago, i have heard soooo many people who arent SW fans who saw ep3 say "well i laughed at all the dramatic parts cause they were so badly acted and written, and the special fx were so overused, but it was better than the other two", how in the hell does bad acting, bad dialogue, bad directing, many plot holes, and more add up to a good movie? just cause a movie is better than other crappier movies doesnt make that movie good by default, it makes it not the worst movie ever. i read many reviews at RT that were just that "well, Ep3 is pretty crappy, but it was better than the other 2", and i dont see how that is rated as fresh.
it is so irratating how eps 1-3 are considered better than they are just cause people love the original trilogy so much.
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Shack
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Saw this again last night. Its still good, but it didn't hold up quite as nicely on the second viewing as it did on the first in the theatre. Maybe it was because of the energy the first time, or the fact that I knew what was going on here. Anyways, it drops from an A+ to an A for me. There was some problems I noticed. Like the fact that that 20 minute fight between Obi-Wan and General Grievious was completley useless, it didn't do anything to the story. It just took up a buttload of room. I feel they could've edited that down to like 20 seconds, maybe just skip right ahead to Obi-Wan standing above the dead Grevious. Also, the Death Star at the end. So it takes 20 years to build the first one between Episode III and Episode IV, and a grand total 2 years to build the second between Episode IV and VI. What? It seems like they were trying too hard to connect the movies, they should've just left a lot of it to the imigination.
I'll have to re-evaluate if its still the #1 film of the 2005, its up there, but its awfully close now.
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Shack, any chance you could make your sig smaller?
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Bradley Witherberry
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insomniacdude wrote: BacktotheFuture wrote: I love the comebacks. To a post that's half a year old, at that.
Who needs no stinkin' realtime?!?
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STEVE ROGERS
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Hoban Washburne wrote: i completely agree with makeshifts post from 5 months ago, i have heard soooo many people who arent SW fans who saw ep3 say "well i laughed at all the dramatic parts cause they were so badly acted and written, and the special fx were so overused, but it was better than the other two", how in the hell does bad acting, bad dialogue, bad directing, many plot holes, and more add up to a good movie? just cause a movie is better than other crappier movies doesnt make that movie good by default, it makes it not the worst movie ever. i read many reviews at RT that were just that "well, Ep3 is pretty crappy, but it was better than the other 2", and i dont see how that is rated as fresh. it is so irratating how eps 1-3 are considered better than they are just cause people love the original trilogy so much.
Dude, it's the "COOL" thing to do in this day and age is Bash the SW Prequels no matter what and the folks who do so feel some sort of superiority in doing so as though there film experts.. I will say that after seeing all 3 now, that I do feel that Lucas probably could've done away with EPISODE I-II and simply made EPISODE III back in 1999, made it a 3 hour movie chronicling Skywalker from little boy to Man and his Fall and done so without the inclusion of Jar Jar Binks and everyone would've probably been happy, but what's done is done..
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