Jackson named 'Most Powerful' in Hollywood
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I'll even go a step further and say if Lovely Bones manages critical acclaim, award attention, and the typical box office success that follows, he's officially up there with Spielberg. Only a select few can balance those two types of films.
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Rogue
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Good point. Although we certainly can't expect Lovely Bones to get anywhere near $300 million. Million Dollar Baby territory is a good target.
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Fri May 27, 2005 9:56 am |
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insomniacdude
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neo_wolf wrote: Im pretty sure that in reality Spielberg and lucas are way more powerful than jackson.
That's because they are.
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Fri May 27, 2005 1:02 pm |
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Tied - Speilberg & Lucas #1 (they are their own studios)
#2 - Cameron (he made titanic  worth 20 years of power)
#3 - Jackson (LOTR)
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Fri May 27, 2005 1:28 pm |
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Maximus
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 Three over-rated films and you're the most powerful man in an industry? Hardly. Jackson has a long way to go before he can ever claim that title.
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Fri May 27, 2005 1:35 pm |
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Rogue
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You guys need to stop giving Cameron so much credit. He has made two great films (Terminator, Aliens), four good to almost great ones (Terminator 2, The Abyss, True Lies, Titanic) and one fairly bad one (Pirahna 2). Yes, that is a very nice track record. But the last time he gave us something was 1997 -- and that wasn't one of his great ones IMO.
That simply isn't enough to land you among the likes of Spielberg.
About Jackson...yeah, I agree that it is a bit too early to give him that title. But, including King Kong, he will have released 4 films in the last 5 years (one of them is really one film split in 3, but still...) And LOTR, in my very humble opinion, is better than any of the Cameron films I listed above. Therefore, while I wouldn't rank him with a living legend like Spielberg, I have no qualms of putting him ahead of Cameron at this point in time.
Cameron needs to get off his ass.
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Fri May 27, 2005 2:22 pm |
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Maximus
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Cameron is off his ass. Just wait..... he's "pioneering" some shit.
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Fri May 27, 2005 4:59 pm |
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Aliens of the Deep is still my top "film" of 2005.
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Fri May 27, 2005 5:08 pm |
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Erendis
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What if "powerful" means stuff like: can he make deals, are actors begging to be in his movies, do studios throw money at him, do his movies make good return on investment, how many people are submitting scripts, does he drive a hard bargain, do the actors in his movies go on to better careers afterwards, does he BRING HOME OSCARS...stuff like that? If that's the criteria, PJ might well be the most powerful in truth.
But if powerful means "household name" or "most critically acclaimed" that might be something else again.
Mav, I guess you mean PJ was literally sitting at Spielberg's feet, or doing some sort of :worthy:. Not sure that's a sign of power -- maybe just a sign of respect for a guy who been in the biz longer. And besides, maybe PJ thinks that Spielberg has more clout, but Premiere doesn't.
My guess is that Spielberg and PJ were close, but Premiere chose PJ for two reasons:
1) Choosing Spielberg(again) would be boring, and that doesn't sell magazines.
2) Don't forget the 19 Oscars. Deserved or not, they are in the books.
I wouldn't say Cameron is powerful, he dropped off the radar for too long. If he comes out of the woodwork, then Premiere can give him the power award then. Not before.
As for Lucas being powerful...well, as Miruvoir said, you don't know how powerful he is because he's never stood next to the power yardstick to be measured.
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Fri May 27, 2005 5:17 pm |
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Maximus
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Aliens of the Deep is still my top "film" of 2005.
I haven't seen it. Is it released on dvd yet?
Hopefully its better than Ghosts of the Abyss, which was just B material. (Or maybe I dislike it because I had to watch six times at work....)
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Fri May 27, 2005 5:58 pm |
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zach wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Aliens of the Deep is still my top "film" of 2005. I haven't seen it. Is it released on dvd yet? Hopefully its better than Ghosts of the Abyss, which was just B material. (Or maybe I dislike it because I had to watch six times at work....)
Unless you work with Cameron, I would think watching any film 6 times AT WORK wouldn't be fun.
It's coming out on dvd soon I believe.
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Fri May 27, 2005 6:30 pm |
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Maximus
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loyalfromlondon wrote: zach wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Aliens of the Deep is still my top "film" of 2005. I haven't seen it. Is it released on dvd yet? Hopefully its better than Ghosts of the Abyss, which was just B material. (Or maybe I dislike it because I had to watch six times at work....) Unless you work with Cameron, I would think watching any film 6 times AT WORK wouldn't be fun. It's coming out on dvd soon I believe.
Cool. I'll get ready for it at Blockbuster.
I used to work at the Museum of Science & Industry here in Tampa. We have a huge Imax screen, and it was playing. Lets see, I watched it on opening night at a special event with family. Then I watched it for "gaining background information on Titanic" for my job as an actor on the Titanic.... then I watched it with family several more times. Ugh. It was a fun job though. It was one of those traveling Titanic exhibits with artifacts and recreated sets. I played a rich boy from first class. :razz: Got to sit on the Grand Staircase alll day. \:D/
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Fri May 27, 2005 6:39 pm |
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insomniacdude
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Well, see there are different ways to gauge this list. If by power you mean the director who can get away with the most demands and still land a deal, I suppose Jackson's deal for Kong lands him the top spot. But if by power one means respect (like I would do a list) then Jackson needs to have another ten years of popular movies in Hollywood to approach Spielberg status. I'd put a lot of people over Jackson because of the fact that he's simply too new to the Hollywood landscape. Scott, Cameron, Spielberg, Lucas, Stone, Peterson, Howard, Eastwood, Gibson even would all go on the list above Jackson right now.
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Ahmed Johnson
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zach wrote: :lol: Three over-rated films
you're a [edited]..
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Sat May 28, 2005 1:38 am |
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Miruvor
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Erendis wrote: What if "powerful" means stuff like: can he make deals, are actors begging to be in his movies, do studios throw money at him, do his movies make good return on investment, how many people are submitting scripts, does he drive a hard bargain, do the actors in his movies go on to better careers afterwards, does he BRING HOME OSCARS...stuff like that? If that's the criteria, PJ might well be the most powerful in truth.
But if powerful means "household name" or "most critically acclaimed" that might be something else again.
Mav, I guess you mean PJ was literally sitting at Spielberg's feet, or doing some sort of :worthy:. Not sure that's a sign of power -- maybe just a sign of respect for a guy who been in the biz longer. And besides, maybe PJ thinks that Spielberg has more clout, but Premiere doesn't.
My guess is that Spielberg and PJ were close, but Premiere chose PJ for two reasons: 1) Choosing Spielberg(again) would be boring, and that doesn't sell magazines. 2) Don't forget the 19 Oscars. Deserved or not, they are in the books.
I wouldn't say Cameron is powerful, he dropped off the radar for too long. If he comes out of the woodwork, then Premiere can give him the power award then. Not before. As for Lucas being powerful...well, as Miruvoir said, you don't know how powerful he is because he's never stood next to the power yardstick to be measured.
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