Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
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torrino
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BKB_The_Man wrote: torrino wrote: I can't give an "A" to a film that has the kind of dialogue you see in Friday the 13th sequels. It just isn't a symbol of perfection.
I think Lucas had some neat action scenes, but, let's be honest. Whatever you felt, do you think that justifies an awful screenplay? We're talking about moving picture with sound, no?
Eh. I gave it a B+. I'd love to see 95% of the folks that complain about stuff like this make a better film cause in the end, you know you can't.. This moving picture with sound was Fantastic..
Make a better film than The Ring 2, BKB.
Good luck.
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Sat May 21, 2005 11:52 pm |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
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The worst lines in the entire script were cut.
Those lines are Anakin's little comedy routine as he cuts down the Separatist Leader.
Nute: "Lord Sideous told us we would be left in peace!"
Anakin: "He meant "leave you in pieces"!"
rawr!
I can live with "You're so beautiful", "It's because I'm so in love" "No because I'm so in love with you!" partially because it looks like the actors are trying so damn hard.
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Sun May 22, 2005 12:09 am |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
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loyalfromlondon wrote: andaroo wrote: Watching chicks argue over Star Wars.
There's nothing more arrousing. I had to fight hard to avoid making mention of the threesome.
Don't fight it.
*passes the lube*
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Sun May 22, 2005 12:15 am |
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Libs
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andaroo wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: andaroo wrote: Watching chicks argue over Star Wars.
There's nothing more arrousing. I had to fight hard to avoid making mention of the threesome. Don't fight it. *passes the lube*
Um.
Where is the damn throwing up emoticon?
We got a frickin' emoticon for a *lightsabre fight* and I can't find the upchuck one?
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Sun May 22, 2005 12:18 am |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
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Libs, just type the following:
"dolce... R2-D2 is so much better than c3P0, you BITCH!"
do it with feeling.
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Sun May 22, 2005 12:24 am |
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Neostorm
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I fell asleep through 30 minutes of it.
The editing was horrible.
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Sun May 22, 2005 1:59 am |
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Squee
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Far and away the best movie of the prequels.
***1/2
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Sun May 22, 2005 3:22 am |
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xiayun
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A-
It was only a B for the first hour due to the slowness and bad acting, then it took off, and when it did, it was one of the best 1.5 hours I've experienced in a theater. The last hour was just breathtaking. At the end, I was deciding between a B+ and A-, and I asked myself if it is "almost perfect" or just "memorable," as the Yahoo grade level suggested. I found my answer is that this is as good as a Star Wars movie can be. The issue with acting and dialog will always be there, but the experience is very satisfying. One has to consider its audience and not judge all the aspects the same. This is A level movie.
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Sun May 22, 2005 3:26 am |
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Amos
Indiana Jones IV
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andaroo wrote: I can live with "You're so beautiful", "It's because I'm so in love" "No because I'm so in love with you!" partially because it looks like the actors are trying so damn hard. It set up the foreshadowing "So love has blinded you?" line so I'm okay with it even if it was slightly cringe-ish. I'm just thankful Jar Jar said nothing, all other SW lines are Pulp Fiction in comparison to his. Overall, this movie was bloody awesome. I thought the "oh-so-bad acting and dialogue" was miles better than the last two, so perhaps there's just no pleasing some people... A. BKB_The_Man wrote: Had the scene where Yoda lands on Dagobah been in there, it would've gotten an "A"..
236 EXT. DAGOBAH-DAY
A small escape pod hurls toward the swamp planet and disappears in the mist. The pod has landed, and YODA descends the ramp, surveying the unfamiliar terrain.
That bumps it up two grades?
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Sun May 22, 2005 3:56 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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torrino wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: torrino wrote: I can't give an "A" to a film that has the kind of dialogue you see in Friday the 13th sequels. It just isn't a symbol of perfection.
I think Lucas had some neat action scenes, but, let's be honest. Whatever you felt, do you think that justifies an awful screenplay? We're talking about moving picture with sound, no?
Eh. I gave it a B+. I'd love to see 95% of the folks that complain about stuff like this make a better film cause in the end, you know you can't.. This moving picture with sound was Fantastic..Make a better film than The Ring 2, BKB. Good luck.
Well for starters, I never would of made a sequel to The RING and just left it as a stand alone film which Hollywood can't seem to do anymore..
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Sun May 22, 2005 9:49 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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Amos wrote: andaroo wrote: I can live with "You're so beautiful", "It's because I'm so in love" "No because I'm so in love with you!" partially because it looks like the actors are trying so damn hard. It set up the foreshadowing "So love has blinded you?" line so I'm okay with it even if it was slightly cringe-ish. I'm just thankful Jar Jar said nothing, all other SW lines are Pulp Fiction in comparison to his. Overall, this movie was bloody awesome. I thought the "oh-so-bad acting and dialogue" was miles better than the last two, so perhaps there's just no pleasing some people... A. BKB_The_Man wrote: Had the scene where Yoda lands on Dagobah been in there, it would've gotten an "A".. 236 EXT. DAGOBAH-DAY
A small escape pod hurls toward the swamp planet and disappears in the mist. The pod has landed, and YODA descends the ramp, surveying the unfamiliar terrain. That bumps it up two grades?
That's good.. Lucas should've left that scene intact and it would've received an "A" from me, but for now, a "B+" is still a fantastic grade..
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Sun May 22, 2005 9:52 am |
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the truth fairy
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A-. The movie isn't flawless, and some moments are really unnecessary and silly, but the enjoyment factor was quite high, hence the grade.
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Sun May 22, 2005 11:33 am |
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Schlomo
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Sure, the dialouge was cheesy, the acting was less then believable, and the editing was a wee bit off, but for gods sake- IT WAS STAR WARS!!!
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Sun May 22, 2005 1:45 pm |
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Mr. Reynolds
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As a non Star Wars fan, i thought the movie was OK. The middle part was the best. I loved that is is dark. but really, it is just to cheesy to take seriously or to appreciate it as great film making. a good popcorn movie at best. B for me. it is more the experience of watching it with die hard fans than the actual movie itself.
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Sun May 22, 2005 7:01 pm |
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baumer72
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I don't think there was much cheese in thsi film at all. Sure, the romacne stuff is still a little weak, but the rest was pure excellence. Anakin's decent to the dark side was perfect and the rest was awesome as well. Oh well, just opinions.
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Sun May 22, 2005 8:55 pm |
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Jmart
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Well, I went to see it again for a second time and it was even better this time around (Though that's probably because I saw it on a much bigger screen). On a bigger screen (And in the 3rd row), the lightsaber fights are much more vivd and enjoyable to watch. Also, I still do not think that the acting is bad at all. In fact, it's actually pretty good. Finally, I thought it was absolutely perfect on Lucas' part with the way he handeled Leia and Luke at the end. John Williams' score also made it very powerful.
Still an A+..........
Next weekend I will probably go see the movie again, though this time around it will be on a digital screen. Does anyone know the difference between the two versions, in terms of running time, or are they exactly the same?
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Sun May 22, 2005 9:23 pm |
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Ripper
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Libs wrote: Ripper wrote: dolcevita wrote: Better than New Hope -PUH-LEEZ
Sith was by far more watchable than its two predecessors, but its is nowhere near the creative package of Lucas' first Star Wars directorial outing nearly three decades ago. Sith is all package and no surprising gift within. There was marginal intrigue, no introduced characters, no loose ends, and the weakest "love" story I've heard in ages. On the plus side, Lucas took alot more time building the action scenes, and it pays off. They are a bit too seemless to hold my attention, and the ability to move from one digital world to the next is so quick and easy that it fails to build a sense of the galaxy.
I don't mind Lucas' philosophy, so Sith wasn't offensive, and Greivous's pnuemonic cough (left unexplained) was actually quite interesting. Yoda steals the show. Jackson was a miscaste, Portman should be shot.
B- (on early thoughts) Finally someone else who sees she is not good in this movie, Christensen is much better in Sith then she is. I didn't think Portman was bad as much as she was not given anything to do. She just sort of stood around, whined and got on my nerves. I actually thought Christensen was laugh-out-loud awful.
Christensen is a good combination of angry but also immature...he is so clouded y personal things that he doesn;t see the bigger picture. He takes the fear he had in the first film over lsoinghis mother and places that on Padme, so he reactiosn and behavior are often very immature. Plus he love ofr Pdame is immature, he fell in love with her back when he was slave...its more infatuationt hen love. She is really the only girl asdei from his motehr he gets to know in an intimate setting, he behves around here alot likea teenager. On the one hand he runs these adult jedi missions, on the other hand socially he still kind of child who has never learned to let things go. It works for me.
I do think the film never establishes why she loves him.
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Sun May 22, 2005 9:52 pm |
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andaroo1
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She loves the idea of Anakin. She loves the escape. She likes that he dominates her.
She's completely submissive. She's the exact opposite of her daughter.
How naughty.
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Sun May 22, 2005 10:33 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
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the truth fairy wrote: A-. The movie isn't flawless, and some moments are really unnecessary and silly, but the enjoyment factor was quite high, hence the grade.
Kid, no movie is flawless.. NO MOVIE not even LOTR was flawless and it's just now the fans are starting to realize this..
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Sun May 22, 2005 10:49 pm |
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Squee
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Did anyone else find it quite weird to hear those words come out of James Earl Jones' mouth?
"Is she... alright?"
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Its not that bad (except I think the screaming "NOOOOO" is getting kind of old) but it just seems weird to hear him say that.
Im also not all that fond of forced cameos. Chewbacca doesnt strike me as the kind of wookie who is one of the leaders of the wookies, considering he was a smuggler in the original trilogy.
But anyway, very good action, and definately the most emotionally satisfying of the three prequels. Not as good as the Original Trilogy, but comes pretty close.
(just thought I'd post a somewhat extended review of my earlier one liner.)
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Sun May 22, 2005 11:48 pm |
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coolmoviedude999
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Which four Lord of the Rings fans gave this movie an F. Show yourselves. :wink:
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Mon May 23, 2005 12:35 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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jmart007 wrote: Next weekend I will probably go see the movie again, though this time around it will be on a digital screen. Does anyone know the difference between the two versions, in terms of running time, or are they exactly the same?
Sadly, they are identical - no bonus Dagobah scene...
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Mon May 23, 2005 2:12 am |
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Nazgul9
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Kid, no movie is flawless.. NO MOVIE not even LOTR was flawless and it's just now the fans are starting to realize this..
Ok, then let's put it this way: LOTR was less flawed than SW (Ep3). 
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Mon May 23, 2005 5:06 am |
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Ripper
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andaroo wrote: She loves the idea of Anakin. She loves the escape. She likes that he dominates her.
She's completely submissive. She's the exact opposite of her daughter.
How naughty.
*laughs*
She did have that bondage like dress in AOTC...damn that was hot, and the naked dress.
Christensen did have a kick ass body, that shirtless scene with the hip bones...she wants him for the sex, who wouldn;t want to fuck a jedi,it owuld be bloody amazing.
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Mon May 23, 2005 7:25 am |
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torrino
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It takes more than just action to craft a good film.
While the final battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan is better than we could've hoped, the movie's screenplay is still questionable. How can you take a character, aspiring to have so much power, seriously if he speaks in cliches, screams, and "I Hate You"s. Whenever Anakin spoke, I thought of a crazy guy in front of Toys 'R Us who happened to get the wrong amount of change back.
There's a reason why screenplays are important to films. Even action movies. I can't suspend my disbelief to watch these if they're complicated and need dialogue to get by. Yeah, there's a basic story behind Star Wars, but Lucas goes further and adds a senate, a chancellor, robots, wookies, Jar Jar Binks, and a Princess. He needs to use dialogue. Good dialogue.
Fortunately, Lucas actually uses action sequences to develop something. This isn't just a man trying to prevail over a stronger man, this is a man transitioning into another man. Lucas effectively speaks through his action scenes in a way that hasn't been done before. If I can recall, only Neo's scene where he first "flies" in The Matrix Reloaded shows off a newfound ability. But, Lucas' shows Anakin's new ability, desire, and development. And, that's Revenge of the Sith's strength.
B+
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