Yet another one I can remember I, Robot and the Village both doing well on it last year (neither were flops though.) and that riddick was number 3 or 4! (troy and king aurther did well to i think)

(just becasue its on this poll dosn't mean I think it will flop, I think that island will do good for example)
(I voted for Mr. and Mrs. Smith)

Fantastic Four - The special effects look so poor in the trailer, I can only see potential for it to underpreform.

Charlie - Looks like it has even less potentail based on the trailer.

Fantastic Four's FX looks great. That's the general consensus, too.

FF4 looks great, i dont think it will flop, but i dont see it doing huge numbers either

i say The Chocolate Factory, it looks horrible and very very weird
other possible is Kingdom of Heaven, not sure

I'm going with The Brothers Grimm, A Sound of Thunder and The Great Raid. With budgets of 80, 80 and 70 million respectively, they all open in late July/early August and have been moving around on the release date calendars for ages. The Great Raid was actually in the can by June 2004, and Thunder by October 2004 (not to mention both started filming in summer 2002!). The only movie that has any bankable star in it is The Brothers Grimm, which while possessing Matt Damon also stars Heath Ledger who has been on a nasty box office poison streak. It could be too weird for general audiences and get lost in the shuffle against Stealth, Sky High and Must Love Dogs opening the same weekend. The Great Raid is yet another war movie, and the biggest name the cast has to offer is James Franco from Spider-Man. Unless the trailer amazes, it'll probably finish with 30-40 million max. A Sound of Thunder has potential to be a small hit, or if WB dumps it we could have THE bomb of 2005 with 7 million opening weekend and 16 millino total.

These three aside, Mr. and Mrs. Smith will probably be a big hit, but neither star can really bring in the masses when it counts, ESPECIALLY Angelina Jolie. She's the undisputed queen of box office bombs at this point in time, and if she keeps her career going as it is might end up being the biggest one of all time.

I forgot about Brothers Grim.

i think it could very well be charlie and the chocolate factory. those trailers are quite disturbing.

My vote is for Stealth. I don't see a lot of appeal for it, and the robot plane going bad is just cheesy. I, Robot pulled it off because of Will Smith and humanlike robots, but Stealth looks like an evil R2-D2. It didn't look that ominous. The robots of I, Robot were incredible because of their human expressions.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

This has the potential to scare children instead of entertain them.

Charlie, the trailer is too over the top for general audiences, and it will scare the hell out of children.

I don't know.

But, I just saw the trailer for Willy Wonka. It does sort of remind me of a set up for a Horror movie.

Then again, the first one wasn't exactly sain.

Who ever said the original charlie was family friendly?

If Fantastic Four is as terrible as people are saying it might be, I could see it underperforming. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is right there as well.

The Brothers Grimm wouldn't be a surprise.

Gilliam films never translate into great fortunes. 12 Monkeys was an anomoly.

Damn, I was thinking summer flops in general, not surprise ones, my bad.

Anyways, I'm not sold that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory will bomb. After Star Wars (and xXx and Kingdom of Heaven, but they come out in one to eight days) I haven't heard more talk about any movie this summer, and though everyone says it looks weird and messed up none of them are surprised since it's Tim Burton and a lot of them even seem to think that it looks pretty cool in a batshit crazy way. I think some of us are underestimating general audiences. By now they realize that Tim Burton makes some weird messed up movies, and I think see his films anyways.

I think Willy will do well. I just thought it looked was pretty out there. I understand that was always the point.

I do think it will be fine though. I don't think it will bomb at all. I will probably end up seeing it myself.

I think it will be Charlie because I think that trailer is a real turn off. (This was a film I was previously anticipating, but that trailer pushed me TOTALLY off the bandwagon.) I would say BOMB for this film, but it will have a lot of hype, like Cat in the Hat did, which will push it into the low $120's, which is, I'm sure much less then they wanted.

I think Mr. and Mrs. Smith will do better then expected. It looks like a cute film. The fake hype generated by the Brad/Angelina are they/aren't they thing is generating added publicity, which won't hurt.

Brothers Grimm will make 60 million. It reminds me a little of the movie Ever After, (which actually also featured the Grimm brothers as characters...)

PS I think the FF special effects look great in the trailer. I don't think that one's going to bomb.

star wars episode 3

KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

KINGDOM OF HEAVEN definetely won't bomb. I really hope THE ISLAND doesn't bomb since it looks amazing!

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory will flop.

Brothers Grimm too - Ledger is BO poison.

What was Charlies budget?

I would think $100 million wouldn't be a bomb, but what was the budget?

Fantastic Snore almost leading the pack. Its looking like the Thing is what he is supposed to look like, a big pile of.

Depends on what you consider to be a flop gross for each movie.

STEALTH might do 60 Million. It has to be one of the most idiotic looking movies in a while, yet I'll see it because Jessica Biel and Josh Lucas are hot and it still looks entertaining.

CHARLIE & THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY should do 70-80 Million. It looks way too weird and that will hurt it.

I say 50-60 Million for THE ISLAND.

I think WAR OF THE WORLDS will do like 175 Million. It is possible it could do SIGNS numbers though. We'll have to see.

FANTASTIC FOUR could do 145 Million.

MR. & MRS. SMITH won't do more than 70 Million, in my opinion. I say it will be somewhere around 60 Million.

BEWITCHED might do 70-80 Million.

I say 20 Million for each HIGH TENSION and DEVIL'S REJECTS.

80 Million for DARK WATER since it's more of a drama.