I'm curious which trailer will garner more attention on Saturday. This or Aquaman... I'd assume Aquaman due to the name, but this is a sleeper.
Is there going to be a trailer on Saturday?
Yes. Most likely just a teaser (90 seconds or so). But yes. And I assume it will be released within an hour or so of the Aquaman trailer.
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
I think this will perform like the first Ant-Man, $500m WW and 175-200m in the US. Those numbers would be fine but will probably be ridiculed just cause it's DC. If this somehow ends up beating Justice League's WW total that'd be crazy.
Hopefully this has 100m or less budget.
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:59 am
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
I think Ant-Man numbers would be great for it. Right now I’m thinking $40-45M opening.
Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:25 am
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
They should change the title to Shazam: Captain Marvel just to be playful.
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:26 am
i.hope
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
publicenemy#1 wrote:
I think this will perform like the first Ant-Man, $500m WW and 175-200m in the US. Those numbers would be fine but will probably be ridiculed just cause it's DC. If this somehow ends up beating Justice League's WW total that'd be crazy.
Hopefully this has 100m or less budget.
The teenage kid angle might help elevate this above Ant-Man's everyday dad/ex-con, box office-wise.
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Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:28 pm
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
i.hope wrote:
publicenemy#1 wrote:
I think this will perform like the first Ant-Man, $500m WW and 175-200m in the US. Those numbers would be fine but will probably be ridiculed just cause it's DC. If this somehow ends up beating Justice League's WW total that'd be crazy.
Hopefully this has 100m or less budget.
The teenage kid angle might help elevate this above Ant-Man's everyday dad/ex-con, box office-wise.
But aren’t teenage boys who want to be empowered going to see every superhero movie anyways?
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:36 pm
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
stuffp wrote:
I don't see why this going is to do worse than Venom, so 80m opening in play with a +200m total.
Venom had huge interest and opened that big despite bad buzz. I don't think Shazam will gain similar numbers (thinking an opening in the 50s)
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:43 pm
i.hope
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
i.hope wrote:
publicenemy#1 wrote:
I think this will perform like the first Ant-Man, $500m WW and 175-200m in the US. Those numbers would be fine but will probably be ridiculed just cause it's DC. If this somehow ends up beating Justice League's WW total that'd be crazy.
Hopefully this has 100m or less budget.
The teenage kid angle might help elevate this above Ant-Man's everyday dad/ex-con, box office-wise.
But aren’t teenage boys who want to be empowered going to see every superhero movie anyways?
I think kid characters are generally more likable than adult characters. And everyone has had experience growing up as teenagers but not everyone has had experience becoming a dad. So Shazam can appeal to a wider demo due to character relatability.
Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:58 pm
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
Captain Marvel vs Captain Marvel
Interesting:
1. Shazam was called Captain Marvel.
2. The publication that created Captain Marvel (Shazam) stopped publishing due to legal claims by DC Comics that Captain Marvel (Shazam) copied Superman.
3. Marvel Comics got its name from Captain Marvel (Shazam).
4. DC Comics acquired the rights to the character Captain Marvel (Shazam), but was not allowed to use the name Captain Marvel in the comics title. It instead named the series Shazam.
Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:25 pm
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
stuffp wrote:
I don't see why this going is to do worse than Venom, so 80m opening in play with a +200m total.
Because nobody knows or cares who the fuck Shazam is. To a lot of people, Shazam! may be mixed up with [and regarded as badly as] a genie played by Shaquille O'Neal.
Venom is and always has been a very popular superhero villain. Shazam was always seen as a poor man's Superman, and I think he is a modern case of only being known to people that avidly read comic books. Don't think anyone else will care. It also has TV actor, Zachary Levi, in the lead role. Not movie star Tom Hardy. And its biggest star is ... Mark Strong. No way $200m+ is in play.
Right that deflects it well...it's still a Superhero in that case, and those are just so popular at this time, even a pretty B-cast Aquaman could open to 67m...a more well known hero, but DC didn't have a strong reputation at this point either. So 70m opening with 180m total is my adjusted prediction, I didn't expect very strong legs with it, despite that I think it looks good and should be liked.
Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:01 pm
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
Well Aquaman is still much more known than Shazam. Firstly, he was in Justice League. He's had a lot of exposure due to that. Merchandise, posters, fan theory, etc. has been fuelling Aquaman's expectations. Not to mention it opened at Christmas. Secondly, I think it's lazy to just say "superhero = success". Jason Momoa, Amber Heard, Patrick Wilson, and Dolph Lundgren may not be huge stars, but they are at least movie stars. Shazam feels like a spin-off of that Flash TV series.
It may play a blinder in the marketing and do well, but I don't see it. As of now, I think it will bomb. You're only predicting high numbers because you chose it in the draft.
Its feels like Superman+Kick Ass+Deadpool type superhero comedy, so there's a lot of ways to fuck it up, and only one way not to. So the odds are against it.
Yeah the fact that its supposedly really should definitely help its legs. Avengers is still going to significantly hurt it in the long run, but I can still see it doing $200M+.
Rising to 300m, and depending on Captain Feminazi second weekend drop, I think Shazam could beat it.
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
Which DC movie didn't have glowing first reactions?
Check the history. BvS was strictly fan reactions, and those were moderate. Suicide Squad was all over the place. Man of Steel was the typical Snyder reaction. Hell, even Aquaman didn't get glowing reactions.
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Re: Shazam! Predictions (April 5, 2019)
I think it will work well as a family film so $200m+ is definitely in play.
Check the history. BvS was strictly fan reactions, and those were moderate. Suicide Squad was all over the place. Man of Steel was the typical Snyder reaction. Hell, even Aquaman didn't get glowing reactions.
I do remember asking if they were fan reactions or critics reactions and it were the former. But a blanket statement of "glowing" was added for ALL. Regardless what I am saying is that its too early for a DC movie yet though given that this is an origins story and WB seem to be good at selling/creating those, so this might work. Still it seems small in comparison and I don't think people should be comparing this to Captain Marvel of MCU.
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