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Barrabás
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Emma's comment is more proof of why most actors should stick to lines other, more intelligent people have written for them.
As for Greta Gerwig and the topic of female directors, the answer is simple: a vastly lower number of women attempt to become film directors than men. Some genders prefer certain professions. It's the same reason why almost all elementary school teachers and human resources professionals are women.
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Barrabás
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Corpse wrote: The problem isn't that women or minorities aren't being nominated enough, and doing so isn't the solution -- it's that they're not given the same opportunities by lack of involvement. No one wants the Oscars to become a show that recognizes, and celebrates, filmmakers based on their gender, color, sexuality, etc.. Rather, one should be recognized for their ability. It's a very simple, intelligible concept, but it's become a convoluted issue.
When everyone is approached and included in the process, it'll open many doors so that this debate about equality finally becomes a discussion of the past. The Oscars, and Hollywood as a whole, have always given a significant leg up to members of a particular ethnicity. But said group is certainly not interested in seeing its share of the opportunities given diminish to something resembling proportional representation. Most of them would have to abandon the industry altogether!
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
I liked parts and the essence of the speech Mcdormand gave in this regard. She said that there are women who can tell stories and they should be given opportunities but then went ahead and asked people to call them or come to their office. You don't need validation from others/men of your work. She was correct in saying that there is a potential that people don't recognize today but should soon start thinking. Addressing to the other gender in itself diminishes the whole meaning of that speech. It should have been about look out there is a talent pool among women and if you don't give them opportunities you are missing out something big.
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21649 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
It was funnier but so bad if that makes any sense.
The films nominated were mixed at best gen pop wise. It felt very non event with hollywood getting the chance again to spread the movement in a nonchalant way.
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67066
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Thegun wrote: It felt very non event Yeah.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Just saying on population percentages alone, the amount of Mexican immigrants in the United States is a high percentage of the population and four of the last five directors to win have been Mexican. All is well. Don’t force things. Let them happen
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Thegun
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
That's a little too Conspiracy Theory (And to be fair Racist) for me. I think you'd have a better case if the films they directed weren't so heavily American.
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Barrabás
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Del Toro, Cuaron and Inarritu are hardly DREAMers though. They're all from upper crust Mexican elite families, like most big time Hollywood directors are from well-off American families. It's not really "diversity".
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Eh close enough
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Algren
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
It doesn't need to BE fair, it just needs to LOOK fair, right DIB?
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
I am not for affirmative action. Never have, never will.
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Algren
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
This can be removed from announcements now.
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:55 pm |
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O
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
I don't see how this isn't a lock for at least a best song nod. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX11yw6YL1w
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nghtvsn
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Yes, it's actually a catchy song performed magnificently.
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Algren
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
That would be excellent.
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Shack
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Great song!
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O
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Michelle Yeoh is going to get a best supporting actress nom and based on the box office would not be shocked if she is an early frontrunner here. She still has lots of goodwill from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon as well.
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Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:25 pm |
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Algren
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Only if they introduce a Most Popular Best Supporting Actress category.
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nghtvsn
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O wrote: Michelle Yeoh is going to get a best supporting actress nom and based on the box office would not be shocked if she is an early frontrunner here. She still has lots of goodwill from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon as well. I would actually like that. She should have been nominated way back when anyway I can see this happening because CRA will undoubtedly get Best Comedy/Musical Picture, Actress, and that's how Michelle Yeoh gets that Academy nod.
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Algren
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Asians seems like a Golden Globe type film to me. Can't see Oscar voters caring much. They're still trying to get black films regarded as art. Or (hopefully) it steals Bland Panther's affirmative action Oscar. That would be hilarious.
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Flava'd vs The World
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Roma looks like the new front runner. But will it even be released in theaters? And how many Netflix views does it need to qualify for Most Popular Film?
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Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:44 am |
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Shack
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Lady Gaga coming from that Actress nomination!
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Flava'd vs The World
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
First Man seems to be getting some trouble because They don't show the American flag being planted on the moon. Is that even worse than the intolerable racism that was Ryan Gosling explaining why he likes jazz? Or will it help the film because now the academy can use it to poke the far-right?
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Chippy
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
There will be no trouble. They don't show it BEING planted. But it's in the film. It's Fox News trying to be offended by every fucking thing. Because they're idiots.
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Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:16 pm |
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Algren
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Re: 2018 Oscar Chat
Sounds just as idiotic as when liberals go batshit over a white person cast in a non-white role.
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