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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy" Fought for a law to jail anyone who performed a gay marriage Fought for a law to jail anyone who applied for a marriage license to someone of the same sex Said gays were causing the downfall of society Said that sex outside of marriage should be illegal Opposed laws that would make it illegal to discriminate against LGBT Fought for abstinence programs Fought Obama's federal rules about discrimination Fought against funding for AIDS Tried to get Trump to issue an executive order declaring premarital sex illegal
He wants sex outside of marriage to be illegal; he doesn't believe gays should get married; therefore he believes gay sex should be illegal. He is an evil man. I actually didn't read this post whoops. I Knew about the AIDS thing. What are the dates on all of these things? Are they since Trumps run? A lot of Christians are fine with homosexuality nowadays as long as they don't have to participate. Most of these are when he was governor of Indiana, admittedly. No reason to assume his position has changed. Well I would wait to bring out the panic wagon when he tries something.
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Groucho
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
zwackerm wrote: Well I would wait to bring out the panic wagon when he tries something. I know; I just brought him up because earlier in this thread there was discussion about the politician who wanted to make straight sex illegal to make a point, and someone asked for an example of a politician trying to make gay sex illegal.
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy"
He is an evil man. Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender? What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:32 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy"
He is an evil man. Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender? What the FUCK does this have to do with the other? I see chippy just couldn't resist.
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:41 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 38240
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy the last few months reading this thread
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Glad to see Chippy posting again.
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:15 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Maybe if I became a Democrat he'd stay away.
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:47 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67125
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Knew it wouldn't last long. He'll be back. One post here, another post there, and before you know it he's back posting like Trump on Twitter.
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:35 pm |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: Yeah, you don't have to come out and say the words "I DON'T WANT GAY SEX TO BE A THING!" in order for people to know what you believe.
Although there's always a chance it's an American Beauty situation for Pence. There's a difference between disapproving of gay sex personally and wanting it to be illegal. I don't personally like the idea but I know it's not my business. I'm sure Pence disapproves of gay sex but he's shown no signs of wanting to outlaw it. Except, of course, all the examples I already gave that you are ignoring. I don't believe any of your examples. Citation to legitimate news source saying Mile Pence wants to throw gay people in jail for wanting to be married. Pics or I didn't happen. NY Times reliable enough for you? http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt ... 1afaa.htmlI can't read without doing survey shit and it doesn't look like the NY Times but I am not saying that the North West Indiana Times (NWITimes?) Is not legit.
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Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:51 am |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy"
He is an evil man. Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender? What the FUCK does this have to do with the other? Seems clear. But you know that.
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Groucho
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: I can't read without doing survey shit and it doesn't look like the NY Times but I am not saying that the North West Indiana Times (NWITimes?) Is not legit.
Doh! That's embarrassing. I clicked on NY Times and that came up and I posted it by mistake. Snopes dealt with this: http://www.snopes.com/mike-pence-marriage-licenses/Even if it did not go as far as originally claimed, the fact remains that Pence has pretty much done everything in his power to discriminate against gays at every possibility. (Remember the whole "religious freedom act" that allowed pizza parlors to discriminate? That was his.) Here's an actual, real NY Times article listing most of the terrible things he's done: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/us/p ... roups.html
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Groucho
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: Chippy wrote: Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy"
He is an evil man. Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender? What the FUCK does this have to do with the other? Seems clear. But you know that. No, it isn't. It's a distraction. but you know that. The issues involving discrimination against gay people have NOTHING to do with the rights of juveniles and parents concerning their own bodies.
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Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:45 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Juveniles don't have The same rights as legal adults.
This is a more interesting topic than Pence's scandalous past. I'm thinking only adults should be allowed to transition surgically, due to the brain still developing, but there's no reason teens and kids shouldn't be able to experiment with gender roles.
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DP07
Homo Dperious
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 14542 Location: Everywhere
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: DP07 wrote: Caius wrote: DP07 wrote: I could just imagine zwackerm picking apart every detail of Austin Powers. And I could see you making some abstruse point over the course of six paragraphs that leaves people on all sides confused about the thrust of your original argument. Only if they ask for it and it's necessary for an adequate reply. Thanks for telling we what I know, that politics is generally lazy. I had a rude reply, but I'll just say your attack here is worthless and meaningless to me. I care little if I convince you of anything (which would be a pretty pointless effort anyway). Politics is generally lazy, similar to your initial attacking post. Why does comedy need to be perfectly accurate? It doesn't really matter whether the Muslim travel ban or the military transgender ban are mixed in the joke because they derive from similar motivations and causes.
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
DP07 wrote: Why does comedy need to be perfectly accurate? It doesn't really matter whether the Muslim travel ban or the military transgender ban are mixed in the joke because they derive from similar motivations and causes. Ah, ok.
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Apparently Trump is willing to do a DACA deal without a border deal. God do I love it when he stabs all the populist rubes in the back--who will now side with his new position.
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
American Institute in Croatia is having a rather weird promo campaign for their language courses https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 8432673085
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Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
LMAO
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
When Trump refers to Kim Jong-Un as Rocket Man, part of me gets why his base love him so much. That slap in the face of everything we all think of as "presidential". It's completely dangerous and continues to serve as proof of why everyone thinks of America as a laughing stock, but it's nevertheless interesting.
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Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:23 pm |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Wait, is Rocket Man a hero or a villain in Trump's extended universe? I am confused. President Moon sure sounds like an evil name.
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Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:47 am |
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tree and a half
Cream of the Crop
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Mister Ecks wrote: everyone thinks of America as a laughing stock That started long before Trump.
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Every country is a laughing stock depending on where you are from.
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Algren
now we know
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Thegun wrote: Every country is a laughing stock depending on where you are from. But America is always in the top two.
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Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:11 am |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
People like to laugh at America till they come here for their surgeries.
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Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:06 am |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
zwackerm wrote: People like to laugh at America till they come here for their surgeries. Those are reserved for the very wealthy only. Speaking of health care and stuff, America ranks lowest in life expectancy compared to the rest of the industrialized countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy#List_by_the_United_Nations.2C_for_2010.E2.80.932015Maybe useful to understand why this is.
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