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The Amityville Horror

100% full in 160 seat screen at 9:45 PM (similar to the TCM remake in my area). The showing beforehand also appeared to be extremly full when it let out.

Trailers (no reaction for anything):

Into The Blue
Stealth
War Of The Worlds
Kingdom Of Heaven
House Of Wax
The Skeleton Key
Mindhunters

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What do you get when you take one of the best fourty five minutes in modern horror history and mix it with one of the worst fourty five minutes in modern horror history? You get The Amityville Horror remake, my friends. This film is wildly inconsistent, and ultimately pretty damn disappointing by the time the closing credits roll on the screen. I guess we'll start with the good, which was the entire opening fourty five minutes, or as I like to call it - everything that happened before the priest character was introduced. The film begins with a literal bang, in one of the best opening sequences i've seen in a film in quite some time. The films really builds off that opening surge of momentum. Everything is just hitting on all cylinders. The character development of the Lutz family is extremely good for a horror film, the acting by all involved (even Reynolds) is damn good, the direction is top of the line, and there are some pant-shittingly scary set peices that happen to include heapin' helpins of the red stuff (the bathroom scene with the kid brushing his teeth and the closet scene with the babysitter are two stand outs that will have you up later than you want to be at night). Then, all of the sudden, everything just stops. It's quite shocking how the film just falls completely off the tracks once the character of the priest is introduced. You can really tell that the filmmakers tried way too hard to get the film extremely scary too early and just plain ol' ran out of ideas to cap the film off with. A golden rule I always like to use with horror films is, once you have to rely on bugs to be scary for you, you've really lost your way. And that ending. Oh, god - that ending! I was stuck asking myself when the film stopped being a horror film and turned into one of "thrillers" you see so often on the Lifetime network. Here's the checklist:

Crazy husband chasing helpess wife and kids all over the house (including highly improbable roof sequence) - CHECK
Amazingly adept 12 year old saves the day numerous times - CHECK
Give us a taste of the ending everybody wants to see and rip it away with the "it was all just a dream/halucination" cliche - CHECK

With that said, there were some nice things about the ending. The Ketcham character was very interesting, and the atrocities commited to the Native Americans were deeply disturbing and provided some horrific imagery that Clive Barker would have been proud of, but it all wasn't enough to save the ending.

I really wanted to like this movie. Nay - I wanted to love this movie, and the most frustrating thing about it is the first fourty five minutes completely delivered on everything that I was hoping for and them some. Andrew Douglas seems like an incredibly gifted filmmaker, and he was on the verge of delivering one of the best modern horror films around. He just had too many great ideas too quickly, and the film collapsed in on itself. I give The Amityville Horror a C+.


Dude, you really wanted to like it, you really wanted to love it which indicates to me you didn't like this, but still gave it a "C+"??? :-k That's almost above average.. You sure you didn't go into this with super high expectations due to me hyping this up forcing you to give it this sort of odd grade?? If you didn't like it or even come close to loving it, why would you give it a grade above all things a "C+"?? Interesting.. :-k

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Dude, you really wanted to like it, you really wanted to love it which indicates to me you didn't like this, but still gave it a "C+"??? :-k That's almost above average.. You sure you didn't go into this with super high expectations due to me hyping this up forcing you to give it this sort of odd grade?? If you didn't like it or even come close to loving it, why would you give it a grade above all things a "C+"?? Interesting.. :-k


As I said in the review, BKb - I loved the first half and despised the second half. With that in mind, a C+ seems like a perfectly resonable grade to me.


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can you not accept that some people may not love this BKB?

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can you not accept that some people may not love this BKB?


I'd be lying to you if I said "No" because the movie has everything that makes up a damn good horror movie and moreso than the RING, RING II or The GRUDGE had with their PG-13 ratings.. I guess Rated-R movies really do have an affect on who can get into see them VS who can't and amazing that a couple a year's age difference can shatter a box office like this.. All horror movies should be like this one, they really should.. I'm anxious to see what you think of this.. :-k

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bkb sounds like one of those extremist people.Either you like what i like or your wrong!

Im seeing the movie today at 3pm.


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bkb sounds like one of those extremist people.Either you like what i like or your wrong!


Did you just now figure this one out? :wink:

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I'd be lying to you if I said "No" because the movie has everything that makes up a damn good horror movie and moreso than the RING, RING II or The GRUDGE had with their PG-13 ratings.. I guess Rated-R movies really do have an affect on who can get into see them VS who can't and amazing that a couple a year's age difference can shatter a box office like this.. All horror movies should be like this one, they really should.. I'm anxious to see what you think of this.. :-k


Who the hell cares if its R-rated? Why does this make such a huge difference to you? If it's good, it's good. Not much more complicated than that.

And again, have you seen Ring Two yet?

As for makeshift's review, I'll agree with it -- the film loses steam in the second half, to the point where I think the "Ketcham" revelation was botched. Perhaps it was the director or editors (Roger Barton, don't let me down on Ep. III!), but the way they intercut Kathy Lutz in the library with George in the "torture room" just didn't work, especially when the priest suddenly comes into play and ruins all of the scene's momentum. By the time Ketcham actually shows up at the house, I heard more than a few "Who is that?" type questions.


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Fever Pitch
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200 seater, 50% full

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Star Wars-Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Kingdom of Heaven
Kicking & Screaming

Movie: A
Great movie. Drew Barrymore and Jimmy Fallon were great!

After Fever Pitch was over I went to the theater next to Fever Pitch's into Hitch and met up with my mom and watched the last half of Hitch. I still love Hitch.


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The Amytiville Horror

9.45pm Saturday - Melbourne Australia - 85% full in a 300 seater

I loved this film - its the first quality horror pic in quite some time. I agree that the Ketchum revelation is a little botched - but otherwise - a great film - which IMO does not lose steam in the second half. The crowd loved it.

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Amityville, Review wise, and now box office wise is seeming like a lower profile version of TCM2003.


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Amytiville Horror
6pm

Trailers:
SW:ROTS:great reaction
WOTW:Great reaction
Batman Begins:No reaction


The movie:Another bad horror film,i didnt find anything scary,the only thing i liked was the babysitter.The crowd reaction was bad also and it had some walkouts.
Grade: D-


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Well, Episode III tickets went on sale over the weekend here.

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AMITYVILLE HORROR

Where: My location
When: 4-16-05 @ 2020
Size/Occupancy: 400+ / less than 50 % which was very disappointing, I thought it'd be sold out !

Trailers:

Kingdom of Heaven : Probably the dumbest trailer for this film I've seen. It's the one with music that doesn't match the movie i.e. Rock music....wth??
Skeleton Key : Still the good one that is out, very creepy very nice
House of Wax : Still the good one that is out, ditto
Into the Blue? : Starring Alba and Walker, nice bodies boring film
et others I forget

The film: I enjoyed AH very much. I liked the quick presentation of the original story from which it's based. That was very graphic and disturbing. I was surprised this was supposed to have taken place just a yr after the murders. I thought all the actors did a nice job although the girl "chelsea" got on my nerves a lot. If anyone needed psychiatric aid more than the husband it was her. Btw, I'm getting tired of little children being in horror films and always having some special connection with the dead. The progression of the husband's sanity was nice and was really making me hate the character which is always a plus when a film can do that for me. The historical reference to the Ketchum history was interesting as well. I also did get kind of tired seeing Jody, I don't think I'll be able to look at children with bullet holes in their head for at least a couple weeks. In the end, I was very pleased with the film. It was on par with TCM in terms of fright moments and plot movement which is quick and I like that. One thing that would have helped the experience would have been a sold out theatre but for some crazy reason this show wasn't sold out even though it was Saturday Night and during a Prime Round showing.

Grade : B+

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THE AMITYVILLE HORROR
1:00pm at Cinemark Lexington Green Movies 8
30% full

Trailers:

STEALTH
WAR OF THE WORLDS
THE SKELETON KEY
HOUSE OF WAX
HIGH TENSION
MINDHUNTERS
INTO THE BLUE
KINGDOM OF HEAVEN


Crowd Reaction: There were a few screams but also a lot of laughs during serious moments. Overall I'd say it was a mixed response. I loved it and gave it an 8/10 (A-).


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AMITYVILLE HORROR

Where: My location
When: 4-16-05 @ 2020
Size/Occupancy: 400+ / less than 50 % which was very disappointing, I thought it'd be sold out !

Trailers:

Kingdom of Heaven : Probably the dumbest trailer for this film I've seen. It's the one with music that doesn't match the movie i.e. Rock music....wth??
Skeleton Key : Still the good one that is out, very creepy very nice
House of Wax : Still the good one that is out, ditto
Into the Blue? : Starring Alba and Walker, nice bodies boring film
et others I forget

The film: I enjoyed AH very much. I liked the quick presentation of the original story from which it's based. That was very graphic and disturbing. I was surprised this was supposed to have taken place just a yr after the murders. I thought all the actors did a nice job although the girl "chelsea" got on my nerves a lot. If anyone needed psychiatric aid more than the husband it was her. Btw, I'm getting tired of little children being in horror films and always having some special connection with the dead. The progression of the husband's sanity was nice and was really making me hate the character which is always a plus when a film can do that for me. The historical reference to the Ketchum history was interesting as well. I also did get kind of tired seeing Jody, I don't think I'll be able to look at children with bullet holes in their head for at least a couple weeks. In the end, I was very pleased with the film. It was on par with TCM in terms of fright moments and plot movement which is quick and I like that. One thing that would have helped the experience would have been a sold out theatre but for some crazy reason this show wasn't sold out even though it was Saturday Night and during a Prime Round showing.

Grade : B+


I'm beginning to wonder if the R-Rating really did play a part in it not being sold out??? I notice the 3 times I saw this, it was mostly an adult crowd with no screaming kids or cell phones going off and talking left and right, which is sort of a good thing because it's the those things that get on my nerves when paying $$$ to see a movie.. Hmmm.. On the otherhand, I couldn't imagine this movie being rated PG-13.. No way with the scenes of torture and oodles and oodles of blood which are not present in both the RING and The Grudge.. :-k

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I'm beginning to wonder if the R-Rating really did play a part in it not being sold out??? I notice the 3 times I saw this, it was mostly an adult crowd with no screaming kids or cell phones going off and talking left and right, which is sort of a good thing because it's the those things that get on my nerves when paying $$$ to see a movie.. Hmmm.. On the otherhand, I couldn't imagine this movie being rated PG-13.. No way with the scenes of torture and oodles and oodles of blood which are not present in both the RING and The Grudge..


I never thought about the R rating till you brought it up. I really think that was the reason it wasn't sold out during that showing because it was totally out of character for the previous horror films that had come out. I also observed few children and lots of 17-35 there. Anyway, I hope it holds up next week.

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I saw FEVER PITCH at 9:05. There was about eight people there, it looked like most people were going to see THE AMITYVILLE HORROR. The trailers were A LOT LIKE LOVE, which got a great reaction. STAR WARS EPISODE III, which got no reaction. I think there was one other one but I don't remember what it was. The crowd reaction was great, my friend didn't like it but that's to be expected. One of the guy's was saying how hilarious it was.

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I'm beginning to wonder if the R-Rating really did play a part in it not being sold out??? I notice the 3 times I saw this, it was mostly an adult crowd with no screaming kids or cell phones going off and talking left and right, which is sort of a good thing because it's the those things that get on my nerves when paying $$$ to see a movie.. Hmmm.. On the otherhand, I couldn't imagine this movie being rated PG-13.. No way with the scenes of torture and oodles and oodles of blood which are not present in both the RING and The Grudge.. :-k


Amityville had "oodles of blood"? Maybe I'm just forgetting the two screenings I attended, but the closest it ever seemed to get was the Hellraiser-lite sequence in the torture room. And even that wasn't particularly disgusting.


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I'm beginning to wonder if the R-Rating really did play a part in it not being sold out??? I notice the 3 times I saw this, it was mostly an adult crowd with no screaming kids or cell phones going off and talking left and right, which is sort of a good thing because it's the those things that get on my nerves when paying $$$ to see a movie.. Hmmm.. On the otherhand, I couldn't imagine this movie being rated PG-13.. No way with the scenes of torture and oodles and oodles of blood which are not present in both the RING and The Grudge.. :-k


Amityville had "oodles of blood"? Maybe I'm just forgetting the two screenings I attended, but the closest it ever seemed to get was the Hellraiser-lite sequence in the torture room. And even that wasn't particularly disgusting.


But when you compare it to the RING, RING II and The Grudge along with Boogeyman, all 4 of which were PG-13 with no blood in them at all, at least to my recollection, then Amityville warranted the rating it received.. I thihk it just boils down to the fact that if your a Gorehound and are used to this sort of thing, you probably expected more than what was seen.. There is no way The Amityville Horror would of been acceptable with a PG-13 rating and I would've bveen very disappointed if Michael bay and MGM had caved into that sort of pressure from the MPAA.. When you have scenes of torture, a dog being hacked to death and seeing the aftermath, several family members being graphically blown away by a Remington Shotgun in the beginning, it got what it deserved.. :wink:

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Ooooh, i'm seeing AMITYVILLE next friday, can't wait.

The HOUSE OF WAX trailer seems to be getting shown with AH alot.

This is good news....thats it been attached to CONSTANTINE, BE COOL, CURSED and now shown with RING TWO and AMITYVILLE.

Yay


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I'm beginning to wonder if the R-Rating really did play a part in it not being sold out??? I notice the 3 times I saw this, it was mostly an adult crowd with no screaming kids or cell phones going off and talking left and right, which is sort of a good thing because it's the those things that get on my nerves when paying $$$ to see a movie.. Hmmm.. On the otherhand, I couldn't imagine this movie being rated PG-13.. No way with the scenes of torture and oodles and oodles of blood which are not present in both the RING and The Grudge.. :-k


Amityville had "oodles of blood"? Maybe I'm just forgetting the two screenings I attended, but the closest it ever seemed to get was the Hellraiser-lite sequence in the torture room. And even that wasn't particularly disgusting.


But when you compare it to the RING, RING II and The Grudge along with Boogeyman, all 4 of which were PG-13 with no blood in them at all, at least to my recollection, then Amityville warranted the rating it received.. I thihk it just boils down to the fact that if your a Gorehound and are used to this sort of thing, you probably expected more than what was seen.. There is no way The Amityville Horror would of been acceptable with a PG-13 rating and I would've bveen very disappointed if Michael bay and MGM had caved into that sort of pressure from the MPAA.. When you have scenes of torture, a dog being hacked to death and seeing the aftermath, several family members being graphically blown away by a Remington Shotgun in the beginning, it got what it deserved.. :wink:


When I think of bad PG-13 horror, White Noise comes to my head.

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I'm beginning to wonder if the R-Rating really did play a part in it not being sold out??? I notice the 3 times I saw this, it was mostly an adult crowd with no screaming kids or cell phones going off and talking left and right, which is sort of a good thing because it's the those things that get on my nerves when paying $$$ to see a movie.. Hmmm.. On the otherhand, I couldn't imagine this movie being rated PG-13.. No way with the scenes of torture and oodles and oodles of blood which are not present in both the RING and The Grudge.. :-k


Amityville had "oodles of blood"? Maybe I'm just forgetting the two screenings I attended, but the closest it ever seemed to get was the Hellraiser-lite sequence in the torture room. And even that wasn't particularly disgusting.


But when you compare it to the RING, RING II and The Grudge along with Boogeyman, all 4 of which were PG-13 with no blood in them at all, at least to my recollection, then Amityville warranted the rating it received.. I thihk it just boils down to the fact that if your a Gorehound and are used to this sort of thing, you probably expected more than what was seen.. There is no way The Amityville Horror would of been acceptable with a PG-13 rating and I would've bveen very disappointed if Michael bay and MGM had caved into that sort of pressure from the MPAA.. When you have scenes of torture, a dog being hacked to death and seeing the aftermath, several family members being graphically blown away by a Remington Shotgun in the beginning, it got what it deserved.. :wink:


I guess I just prefer plot and characters to gore, y'know? And, wow, Grudge really did fail on all counts...

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Ooooh, i'm seeing AMITYVILLE next friday, can't wait.

The HOUSE OF WAX trailer seems to be getting shown with AH alot.

This is good news....thats it been attached to CONSTANTINE, BE COOL, CURSED and now shown with RING TWO and AMITYVILLE.

Yay


And it's still gonna bomb :)


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I'm beginning to wonder if the R-Rating really did play a part in it not being sold out??? I notice the 3 times I saw this, it was mostly an adult crowd with no screaming kids or cell phones going off and talking left and right, which is sort of a good thing because it's the those things that get on my nerves when paying $$$ to see a movie.. Hmmm.. On the otherhand, I couldn't imagine this movie being rated PG-13.. No way with the scenes of torture and oodles and oodles of blood which are not present in both the RING and The Grudge.. :-k


Amityville had "oodles of blood"? Maybe I'm just forgetting the two screenings I attended, but the closest it ever seemed to get was the Hellraiser-lite sequence in the torture room. And even that wasn't particularly disgusting.


But when you compare it to the RING, RING II and The Grudge along with Boogeyman, all 4 of which were PG-13 with no blood in them at all, at least to my recollection, then Amityville warranted the rating it received.. I thihk it just boils down to the fact that if your a Gorehound and are used to this sort of thing, you probably expected more than what was seen.. There is no way The Amityville Horror would of been acceptable with a PG-13 rating and I would've bveen very disappointed if Michael bay and MGM had caved into that sort of pressure from the MPAA.. When you have scenes of torture, a dog being hacked to death and seeing the aftermath, several family members being graphically blown away by a Remington Shotgun in the beginning, it got what it deserved.. :wink:


When I think of bad PG-13 horror, White Noise comes to my head.


WHITE NOISE was more on selling the whole EVP Phenomenon and that's one of the main reasons I enjoyed it as much as I did and why I will be getting this on DVD.. By the way, where's my signature change you want me to do?? I did lose so it's time for me to pay up.. #-o

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When I saw AMITYVILLE there were some kids, then again, my theater never cards people.

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A little bit late, but as the movie is getting released next week in the US, thought people may find it interesting...

Movie: The interpreter
City: Madrid, Spain
Session: 22:00, Sunday night
Audience: Around 60%, Pretty good for this time of the day. I think the movie is going to do quite well this weekend. I´m not so sure about WOM, though.

The film: It was ok, well done and all that, but... Not that exciting as a thriller and neither that touching or insightful as a character piece. And that attempt to be more than "just another thriller", dragged the pace down and, most importantly, didn´t work. It did have two showstopping, very exciting moments - The first climax and its build-up, and the bus scene - but also quite a few plot-holes and confusing situations... It lacked sense of humour, and the characters were a bit annoying. I don´t think some people in the US are going to connect neither with Penn nor Kidman, and that´ll hurt its legs. I liked the message of the movie, though, the liberalism of it, including the implicit one: the french were right all along! :wink:

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