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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Wonder Woman
Oh yeah
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Wonder Woman
Yeah, but Dr. Poison is shit.
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David
Pure Phase
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Re: Wonder Woman
If she returns in a sequel, Dr. Poison should be redeemed. This would be the most interesting avenue. Expand on the moment at the party where she seems surprised and slightly moved, however briefly, by the Chris Pine character addressing her humanely.
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MGKC
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Re: Wonder Woman
There's a funny cut in the movie that made me think Wonder Woman casually tossed that tank on Dr. Poison, especially since we never see her again.
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tree and a half
Cream of the Crop
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Re: Wonder Woman
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Thoughts on villains for the sequels? Men - the entire gender.
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: Wonder Woman
D.C. made a great Marvel movie
It's really good. Not much to be said that hasn't already been said. Diana and Steve are very likable. The beginning is well paced. The film feels a bit long, and loses it self in the middle, but of course corrects at No Mans Land. I do think the Ares fight could have been a little less... generic? It's also very funny. It's also a good example of how a relationship between a man and a woman should be. Both Diana and Steve have their own strengths and work together and respect each other. It's not the "feminism!" Movie it could have been.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Wonder Woman
Feminism equates to equality which, while not the chief theme, is still a theme present in the movie
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman
Where exactly is the equality? I just saw the film as a two-hour excuse for liberals to believe that somehow this film equates to progress. The film is as sexist as any other film. There isn't any equality on show.
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Mau
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Re: Wonder Woman
Algren wrote: Where exactly is the equality? I just saw the film as a two-hour excuse for liberals to believe that somehow this film equates to progress. The film is as sexist as any other film. There isn't any equality on show. oh shut up now.
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman
Typical air-headed liberal that just wants to live in a false reality, and when someone questions it they get all dismissive and/or offensive.
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Mau
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Re: Wonder Woman
Algren wrote: Typical air-headed liberal that just wants to live in a false reality, and when someone questions it they get all dismissive and/or offensive. I'm a mexican gay living in Mexico, don't tell me what reality is cuz I know it pretty well. Now go make your sex slave make you a sandwich.
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman
Mau wrote: Algren wrote: Typical air-headed liberal that just wants to live in a false reality, and when someone questions it they get all dismissive and/or offensive. I'm a mexican gay living in Mexico, don't tell me what reality is cuz I know it pretty well. I was referring to reality with regards to Wonder Woman, you know, since this thread is about it and all.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Wonder Woman
Algren wrote: Where exactly is the equality? I just saw the film as a two-hour excuse for liberals to believe that somehow this film equates to progress. The film is as sexist as any other film. There isn't any equality on show. Steve at the end of the movie sacrifices his own life. Both he and Diana had something important to bring to the table in the climax. Despite Diana being a literal god, and Steve a mere mortal. Their actions are still vital the plot, and to saving the day.
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zwackerm
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Re: Wonder Woman
Hopefully the villain in the sequel will be Cheetah.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Wonder Woman
Cheetah is the most iconic
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Algren
now we know
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Re: Wonder Woman
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Algren wrote: Where exactly is the equality? I just saw the film as a two-hour excuse for liberals to believe that somehow this film equates to progress. The film is as sexist as any other film. There isn't any equality on show. Steve at the end of the movie sacrifices his own life. Both he and Diana had something important to bring to the table in the climax. Despite Diana being a literal god, and Steve a mere mortal. Their actions are still vital the plot, and to saving the day. Yeah, I don't see the equality there. That happens in loads of films, and doesn't equate to equality.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Wonder Woman
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Cheetah is one of the most iconic animals Fixed
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Wonder Woman
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Algren wrote: Where exactly is the equality? I just saw the film as a two-hour excuse for liberals to believe that somehow this film equates to progress. The film is as sexist as any other film. There isn't any equality on show. Both he and Diana had something important to bring to the table in the climax. Despite Diana being a literal god, and Steve a mere mortal. Their actions are still vital the plot, and to saving the day. I am not sure how their actions amount to equality specially when one of them is God who survives while the other dies? Not supporting Algren's claim here BTW.
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman
Jack Sparrow wrote: Not supporting Algren's claim here BTW. Go on then, wise guy, please explain the equality...
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Wonder Woman
I'll be neutral on that topic . I don't think it was enough but I also don't think it was completely lacking.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23790 Location: Classified
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Re: Wonder Woman
People are definitely pushing a feminist agenda on the film, but its more about how the strong treat the weak. Like most every other superhero movie.
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Algren
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Re: Wonder Woman
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Both he and Diana had something important to bring to the table in the climax. Despite Diana being a literal god, and Steve a mere mortal. Their actions are still vital the plot, and to saving the day. So you are essentially saying that both characters, male and female, were equally important to the outcome of the film, which amounts to equality. But, it's just, I don't see it that way ... for me, the female character had to be a "god" in order to contribute to the result, whereas the male character could just be a regular guy. Now, I don't know about you, but that doesn't seem like equality or even feminism. It is even worse in promoting those ideals than a Transformers movie. At least Megan Fox didn't need to be a "god" to help save the day.
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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Re: Wonder Woman
Wonderbread woman was great.
Delicious.
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14544 Location: LA / NYC
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Re: Wonder Woman
Rewatching this now. I love Diana and Steve so much.
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Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:39 pm |
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BK
Forum General
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Re: Wonder Woman
Wonder Woman was pretty generic.
I haven't gone through this thread, but it was as superficial as most of these superhero movies.
Some vague, illogical bad guy, some hokey action pieces, some cheesy ill-placed romance...
Wonder Woman, or whatever her name is again, being clueless was also grating. Is she the counterpart to Superman? Because he is in the same vein- at least the one I am referring to is Superman Returns.
All in all, overrated. Don't really see it as a feminist movie or whatever it has been crowned. I'm sure others could make a much better movie. This was out of the factory like the rest of them, substituting a woman for a man, but even then, not really doing her justice by making her a bit of a simpleton.
At least it exists so women can move forward a little, but it took how many years to get a proper superhero movie out? (Maybe they have adhered to the comics, but honestly most of these movies are little more than trashy cartoon storylines.)
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