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Algren
now we know
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Jack Sparrow wrote: This is domestic club right? By now you really shouldn't be asking this question. If there is no mention of "overseas", "Intl", "worldwide" etc., and the poster is American, you can quite confidently assume it is the US gross (which is the only gross referred to as domestic for some reason).
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
it appears PS is below Boss Baby. Not sure if that is a sign of a break out despite it appearing early on pulse/MT.
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32128 Location: the last free city
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
This looks 100x better than Cars 2 can't wait to see it
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Algren wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: This is domestic club right? By now you really shouldn't be asking this question. If there is no mention of "overseas", "Intl", "worldwide" etc., and the poster is American, you can quite confidently assume it is the US gross (which is the only gross referred to as domestic for some reason). Yeah my comment was follow-up to insane predictions by Brian.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21161 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
I feel like there should be a lot more excitement three days out. I don't see it, but I hope I'm wrong, especially if it's good (and I'm one of the few who actually likes Cars 2).
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Well its on MT so that's the excitement there
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67125
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Jmart wrote: I feel like there should be a lot more excitement three days out. It is a children's film. Unless you work with children or have a bunch of children at home, you probably wouldn't see the excitement. I fine children's films are always stealthy over-performers.
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1924
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:43 pm Posts: 1079
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
yeah big fail. At least it is considered an improvement quality wise over 2. Hope it gets some decent legs
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Theoretically it's not a big fail. It could hit 170 million pretty easily. And it can hit 190 if it matched Dory's legs.
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
So far, it's been a big failure. OD was down 24% from Cars 2. Its Friday-to-previews ratio of 7.0 was lower than Minions' 7.4.
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Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:56 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21161 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Algren wrote: Jmart wrote: I feel like there should be a lot more excitement three days out. It is a children's film. Unless you work with children or have a bunch of children at home, you probably wouldn't see the excitement. I fine children's films are always stealthy over-performers. Or not.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21161 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
zwackerm wrote: Theoretically it's not a big fail. It could hit 170 million pretty easily. And it can hit 190 if it matched Dory's legs. That's not happening. Here's what I noticed doing trailer checks for Cars 3 - Its audience is strictly families. Other Pixar movies or movies like this that go on to do mammoth numbers always bring in families, but they bring in at least a little of every demographic as well. For Cars 3 the age range of 13-34 is pretty much nonexistent, and those that are 26-34 are young parents bringing their kids. No excitement from them going in and it's no surprise that they didn't show up.
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Jmart wrote: zwackerm wrote: Theoretically it's not a big fail. It could hit 170 million pretty easily. And it can hit 190 if it matched Dory's legs. That's not happening. Here's what I noticed doing trailer checks for Cars 3 - Its audience is strictly families. Other Pixar movies or movies like this that go on to do mammoth numbers always bring in families, but they bring in at least a little of every demographic as well. For Cars 3 the age range of 13-34 is pretty much nonexistent, and those that are 26-34 are young parents bringing their kids. No excitement from them going in and it's no surprise that they didn't show up. Kids films are still leggy generally.
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1924
Indiana Jones IV
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
what this movie needed was room to breathe. Since the opening weekend might have been muted thanks to people hesitant because of Cars 2 and thus needed room to have legs. But they stupidly scheduled it two weeks before DM3
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
zwackerm wrote: Jmart wrote: zwackerm wrote: Theoretically it's not a big fail. It could hit 170 million pretty easily. And it can hit 190 if it matched Dory's legs. That's not happening. Here's what I noticed doing trailer checks for Cars 3 - Its audience is strictly families. Other Pixar movies or movies like this that go on to do mammoth numbers always bring in families, but they bring in at least a little of every demographic as well. For Cars 3 the age range of 13-34 is pretty much nonexistent, and those that are 26-34 are young parents bringing their kids. No excitement from them going in and it's no surprise that they didn't show up. Kids films are still leggy generally. But not the case with Cars 2 which did a decent but below 3 multiplier. I just don't see this one getting better legs with DM3 and in general Planes diluting the brand. Its still a respectable number, just not good enough.
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:34 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Jack Sparrow wrote: zwackerm wrote: Jmart wrote: zwackerm wrote: Theoretically it's not a big fail. It could hit 170 million pretty easily. And it can hit 190 if it matched Dory's legs. That's not happening. Here's what I noticed doing trailer checks for Cars 3 - Its audience is strictly families. Other Pixar movies or movies like this that go on to do mammoth numbers always bring in families, but they bring in at least a little of every demographic as well. For Cars 3 the age range of 13-34 is pretty much nonexistent, and those that are 26-34 are young parents bringing their kids. No excitement from them going in and it's no surprise that they didn't show up. Kids films are still leggy generally. But not the case with Cars 2 which did a decent but below 3 multiplier. I just don't see this one getting better legs with DM3 and in general Planes diluting the brand. Its still a respectable number, just not good enough. Cars 2 had really bad buzz. It dropped 60% week 2. Cars 3 has nowhere near the toxic WOM that had.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
But this one opened $13m lesser so clearly the buzz on this one isn't as HIGH as the last one. Plus I don't think the reviews are great enough for it to bring in new audience even though it might not have the toxic WOM of the last one. There is slight room to grow from last one because of the WoM but its not suddenly going to perform like a leggy movie.
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Jack Sparrow wrote: But this one opened $13m lesser so clearly the buzz on this one isn't as HIGH as the last one. Plus I don't think the reviews are great enough for it to bring in new audience even though it might not have the toxic WOM of the last one. There is slight room to grow from last one because of the WoM but its not suddenly going to perform like a leggy movie. I don't think it's too much to ask for a .3 increase in multiplier. Saying it can't possibly have better legs than Cars 2 is retarded
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23909 Location: Classified
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Cars 2 had bad buzz, Cars 3 has apathy. With Transformers, Despicable Me and Spider-Man all serving as direct competition in the next few weeks it's going to die very quickly.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:55 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
zwackerm wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: But this one opened $13m lesser so clearly the buzz on this one isn't as HIGH as the last one. Plus I don't think the reviews are great enough for it to bring in new audience even though it might not have the toxic WOM of the last one. There is slight room to grow from last one because of the WoM but its not suddenly going to perform like a leggy movie. I don't think it's too much to ask for a .3 increase in multiplier. Saying it can't possibly have better legs than Cars 2 is retarded I didn't say it can't, just the opposite actually (read the comment: There is slight room to grow). What is that .3 increase in multiplier that you are talking about? Is it from Cars 2 or Dory? .3 could be a big ask actually, its not as easy to get that in terms of multiplier. With a multiplier same as Cars 2 it gets to $155m, with the increased multiplier of .3 it reaches $171m, in none of those cases it gets to $190m that you initially mentioned. I think it can cross $160m (with a multiplier of 3) but don't see it crossing $190m or passing TBB and TLBM. You also have to consider the competition ahead that targets the exact demos Cars franchise attracts. It won't drop as big as Cars 2 but it certainly won't have enough time to get those weekday boost with Transformers opening so close to it. Cars 3 still needs to cover-up for that $13m deficit even with better holds.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:56 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
The first teaser was better than anything I'd seen from this franchise so far, but that's it. I don't think anybody thought it would really do big numbers. Glad this club failed.
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Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:55 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
I hope zwackerm doesn't think it will leg its way now, specially with DM3 opening soon.
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:39 pm |
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Indiana Jones IV
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
whoever decided on this release date was a moron
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:58 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Cars 3>Cars 2 Club
Absolutely. There is just no time for it to stabilize but Pixar movies have done great and held well in face of competition though Cars history being iffy they should have released this a week earlier.
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