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zwackerm
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Algren wrote: No way this opens to $96m. I'd love to hear your reasoning for that opening. More than Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor: The Dark World, and Doctor Strange. No way. Doctor Strange did 85m, and was completely separate from the MCU. We've already met and liked Black Panther in Cuvil War. So I don't think 11m more is a stretch.
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Rev
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Algren wrote: Sticking with $50m/$115m.
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Algren
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
zwackerm wrote: Algren wrote: No way this opens to $96m. I'd love to hear your reasoning for that opening. More than Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor: The Dark World, and Doctor Strange. No way. Doctor Strange did 85m, and was completely separate from the MCU. We've already met and liked Black Panther in Cuvil War. So I don't think 11m more is a stretch. Without seeing Stark or Captain America in the advertising/trailer, many less will be interested. Black people will not turn up just because it is a black character. The actor playing him is an unknown, unlike Benedict Cumberbatch. And I would disagree that we have "met and liked" Black Panther. He feels like the most inconsequential element of Civil War ... the type of character that a comic-book would suffice in showing his origin story, not a hundred-million dollar movie. That's how I see it at the moment. But it's a long way until February 2018, so let's see how it plays out.
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stuffp
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Algren wrote: Sticking with $50m/$115m. Sounds like the reasonable prediction to me.
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Chippy
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Probably something like $90/270?
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Jonathan
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
publicenemy#1 wrote: They should move this to the 14th and take advantage of VD. Marvel Studios has never had a movie open outside of Friday. I imagine they love getting big opening weekends, and don't typically feel the need for a pre-Friday launch. I am a little surprised that it's not opening the weekend before, as they would not only get Valentine's boost, but Presidents Day would give it a strong second weekend hold. Also, more time in Black History Month.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
That is a great teaser having a perfect balance to attract Marvel as well as black audience. It should do well over OW and Marvel movies have been getting bigger out-of-the-gate anyways. Even Ant-Man did relatively great with $57m OW and I think this isn't as niche as that character.
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Algren
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
I knew that was going to come sometime soon.
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Algren
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
I guess the good thing about a Black Panther film is that because Chadwick Boseman is a nobody, Marvel gains nothing from him being constantly unmasked, so we may actually get a decent superhero film.
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MadGez
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
It should be good for at least Ant-Man numbers though I suspect $200-$230m total is very much in play. Marvel is a much bigger brand than it was in 2011 when Thor and Cap opened so a $80-$90m opening is likely.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
I think the allure of the first major superhero film staring a black superhero will bring more interest
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Algren
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
I think that allure won't exist or that element won't register as a must-see. It was already eaten into with Hancock. Not to mention large black roles in other big superhero films, such as Nick Fury (MCU), Heimdall (Thor, Thor: The Dark World), The Human Torch (Fantastic Four), and Kingpin (Daredevil).
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Yeah I agree this won't have novelty of first black superhero. The marketing does seem to be targeting that demo-graph though and that could make this bigger than Thor, CA, Ant-Man, plus BP was introduced well in CA:CW so that base of the demo is already covered.
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Rev
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: I think the allure of the first major superhero film staring a black superhero will bring more interest Yes it will. People who don't even like comic book movies will see this simply for the awesome cast.
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Rev
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Magnus wrote: Y'all really don't have black friends if you think there is no allure for this for black people in America . No one is thinking "man they already had one with Blade and Hancock". This is the first one to black folks that they feel is a hero that represents them. If they had any clue they'd understand. lol bless their hearts.
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Price
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Rev wrote: Magnus wrote: Y'all really don't have black friends if you think there is no allure for this for black people in America . No one is thinking "man they already had one with Blade and Hancock". This is the first one to black folks that they feel is a hero that represents them. If they had any clue they'd understand. lol bless their hearts. Hmmm? If it's representing anyone shouldn't it be black people in Africa. As far as I know that's where Wakanda is located, although only its population and Andy Serkis know for sure.
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Jiffy
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Magnus wrote: Y'all really don't have black friends if you think there is no allure for this for black people in America . No one is thinking "man they already had one with Blade and Hancock". This is the first one to black folks that they feel is a hero that represents them. Yup.
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MadGez
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Rev wrote: Magnus wrote: Y'all really don't have black friends if you think there is no allure for this for black people in America . No one is thinking "man they already had one with Blade and Hancock". This is the first one to black folks that they feel is a hero that represents them. If they had any clue they'd understand. lol bless their hearts. Great cast. But I'm there for Angela Bassett alone. She gets finer with age.
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pro1986
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Lol if you think Black people think Blade and Hancock are the first black heroes. All you half to do is go on Twitter,IG, and youtube and see the reactions from that demo since the trailer dropped friday. They are pretty much shitting there pants. Hell Marvel fans are to. This will be Big and Marvel is playing it just right. Black Panther will be to black people what Wonder Woman was to women. I mean that is like saying Wonder woman would not be a must see for women because of Electra, Super Woman on tv or all the women super heros in the X Man films. Its an enitre diffrent story when the enitre movie is dedicated to the one character.
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Dil
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
The character might not be as well known as Wonder Woman or any other DC character, but ya'll should know by now to never doubt the Disney marketing machine. Marvel has already turned C list heroes into A listers before and unlike most of those movies this one actually has a great hook. They will definitely play up the first, true black superhero movie angle and the fact that it comes out during Black History Month.
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Algren
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
I guess regardless of whether they are the first or not, black people will lose their shit over any black hero in a film.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
I still don't think its plays as first black superhero (because even with Marvel we have Nick Fury) though ofcourse this could play as the first solo black superhero movie but I believe the character's introduction in CA:CW and the trailer targeting blacks is the reason this is exploding and people are talking about it.
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Algren
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Jack Sparrow wrote: this could play as the first solo black superhero movie It could, yeah, if we erase three Blade movies from our memories.
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Chippy
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Re: Black Panther (2/16/18) Predictions
Jack Sparrow wrote: I still don't think its plays as first black superhero (because even with Marvel we have Nick Fury) though ofcourse this could play as the first solo black superhero movie but I believe the character's introduction in CA:CW and the trailer targeting blacks is the reason this is exploding and people are talking about it. This post is so stupid. Name another black superhero solo film. I'll wait. (Hancock really doesn't count. That was an original character with no fanbase.) This will play as well with the black audience as Wonder Woman did with female audiences.
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