The Thread where you say Amityville will flop!
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MovieDude
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Killuminati510 wrote: Bell wrote: wow 60 Million opening, i think that's too much, right? Crack kills brain cells. What makes this guy think Amityville will make as much money as Batman Begins is opening week? Just a big fanboy.
Not that I agree with him, but you're not making a very good argument for someone being an idiot when you try and compare the opening to something that won't be out for another two months.  But yeah, I think it'll do really damn well, slightly better then Dawn of the Dead but not as good as TCM. 28/70
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Bell wrote: wow 60 Million opening, i think that's too much, right? Crack kills brain cells. What makes this guy think Amityville will make as much money as Batman Begins is opening week? Just a big fanboy. Crack kills brain cells?? So does thinking BATMAN BEGINS will be the Second Coming and outdo SPIDERMAN like alot of folks including yourself believe.. Provided if this is true about an April 14th release on Thursday, I'd say MGM is very confident in this movie and I can't really say I blame them cause it looks great and folks are starving for a damn good horror that's NOT PG-13.. Now, I said a few posts back that I do think I've overpredicted for this movie and have no problem changing my signature and admitting I was wrong if I am wrong, but I'll stick to my guns to the bitter end like I did with The RING II and maybe, just MAYBE, Lightening could strike twice.. Fair enough?? Oh and 1 more thing: What makes you think BATMAN BEGINS is gonna open to 60 Million for the weekend when The RING II coukldn't even gross 70 Million like many of fanboys predicted??? It was supposed to be so Uber Popular, but look what it made in it's 1st weekend?? 36 Million and that's a far cry from the predictions that were floating around for The RING II at 60-70 Million plus?? Putting aside the fanbase for BATMAN BEGINS, to the rest of the casual audience, it's the 5th damn movie in the franchise coming off of 2 piss poor one's that won't be forgotten anytime soon by them, including myself..
WOW!! You just jump from one thing to another so quick dont you, I just read a bunch of nonsense. Nothing in there gave me a reason to think Amityville will open bigger then Batman, or even open anywhere near it.
1. Never said Begins will do Spider-Man numbers, but it is possible that it will be one of the best recieved super-hero movies
2. What does Ring Two have to do with Begins?
3. Begins will open big, it has no competition, its basically the first BIG summer movie, people wont see it as the next Batman and Robin, hell people watch trailers you know that? Theres no indication of it being the 5th installment, especially when it says right in the title, BATMAN BEGINS
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MovieDude wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Bell wrote: wow 60 Million opening, i think that's too much, right? Crack kills brain cells. What makes this guy think Amityville will make as much money as Batman Begins is opening week? Just a big fanboy. Not that I agree with him, but you're not making a very good argument for someone being an idiot when you try and compare the opening to something that won't be out for another two months. ............ what? What argument?, I made my argument plenty of times about both Amityville and Batman, stop trying to be a smart ass.
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STEVE ROGERS
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Killuminati510 wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Bell wrote: wow 60 Million opening, i think that's too much, right? Crack kills brain cells. What makes this guy think Amityville will make as much money as Batman Begins is opening week? Just a big fanboy. Crack kills brain cells?? So does thinking BATMAN BEGINS will be the Second Coming and outdo SPIDERMAN like alot of folks including yourself believe.. Provided if this is true about an April 14th release on Thursday, I'd say MGM is very confident in this movie and I can't really say I blame them cause it looks great and folks are starving for a damn good horror that's NOT PG-13.. Now, I said a few posts back that I do think I've overpredicted for this movie and have no problem changing my signature and admitting I was wrong if I am wrong, but I'll stick to my guns to the bitter end like I did with The RING II and maybe, just MAYBE, Lightening could strike twice.. Fair enough?? Oh and 1 more thing: What makes you think BATMAN BEGINS is gonna open to 60 Million for the weekend when The RING II coukldn't even gross 70 Million like many of fanboys predicted??? It was supposed to be so Uber Popular, but look what it made in it's 1st weekend?? 36 Million and that's a far cry from the predictions that were floating around for The RING II at 60-70 Million plus?? Putting aside the fanbase for BATMAN BEGINS, to the rest of the casual audience, it's the 5th damn movie in the franchise coming off of 2 piss poor one's that won't be forgotten anytime soon by them, including myself.. WOW!! You just jump from one thing to another so quick dont you, I just read a bunch of nonsense. Nothing in there gave me a reason to think Amityville will open bigger then Batman, or even open anywhere near it. 1. Never said Begins will do Spider-Man numbers, but it is possible that it will be one of the best recieved super-hero movies 2. What does Ring Two have to do with Begins? 3. Begins will open big, it has no competition, its basically the first BIG summer movie, people wont see it as the next Batman and Robin, hell people watch trailers you know that? Theres no indication of it being the 5th installment, especially when it says right in the title, BATMAN BEGINS
RING II has everything to do with it, cause in the same respect, you all said The RING II wouldn't gross anything under 50 Million opening weekend and it did so with 36 Million, plus the fact folks went on and on about how the fanbase had tripled since the 1st movie and there was no way it wouldn't gross under 50 Million in it's 1st weekend and it did.. It was very, VERY Overestimated and now it's practically on it's way to DVD coming in last weekend at #7 with what?? 5.7 Million?? If the movie was so damn good, it should have much better legs than it did and it doesn't.. Bottom line: RING II sucked.. BATMAN BEGINS is starting off the very same way with all these overpredictions and fans saying it will blow ROTS away at the box office and I've got to :laugh: at that..
Secondly, from the casual moviegoers perspective burned by the last 2 piss poor movies(and they were piss poor and you know it) this IS being looked upon as the 5th damn movie in a franchise and many folks outside the hardcore batfan community are seeing this as a Prequel, NOT a restart.. That will play a factor into this as well as the Dark, Gloomy depressing overtones this movie has that will rival The HULK and look how that did?? Sorry but it's true and we will see soon enough, but like I said, If I'm wrong, then I'll be more than happy to admit it, but I don't think I will be..
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:19 am |
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Bell
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the most Amityville horror can open on the opening weekend is 30 million, if its get lucky it can hit 33 million.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:43 am |
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I personally thougt Batman Forever did suck, but its funny you say it wasnt well recieved with the general public even though it had 40% drops the following weekends and ended up with 184mil, with a 52mil opening in only 2,800 theaters.
So you're telling me its ok to compare Ring Two with Batman Begins just because supposedly both of them are overpredicted even though Batman isnt out yet, thats smart. Looking at how well Batman Forever did, and in only 2800 theaters, you really think Batman Begins with most likely 4000 theaters, on June 17th, the week most kids get summer vacation cant do atleast 60mil, yet Amityville in April, with not even 1/8 of the hype Batman has already can make 60mil its opening weekend. Common man, you know its not gonna happen. We should be comparing Ring Two to Amityville both are horror movies and Amityville just like Ring Two will suffer from horror overload, people are just tired of horror movies, not just PG-13 horror movies, just horror movies in general.
I do think Amityville will do good though, or atleast decent, and i've said that a bunch of times.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:15 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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Bell wrote: the most Amityville horror can open on the opening weekend is 30 million, if its get lucky it can hit 33 million.
The most it can open up to?? Why?? Because it's Rated-R??? So was HANNIBAL and it was Rated-R and made 58 Million in 1 weekend, even though it's not full fledged horror in the true sense, but according to those dumb fucks at IMDB, They classify HANNIBAL as Horror... Amityville's gonna open up alot higher than that my friend.. 1 week to go.. :rock:
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:01 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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Killuminati510 wrote: I personally thougt Batman Forever did suck, but its funny you say it wasnt well recieved with the general public even though it had 40% drops the following weekends and ended up with 184mil, with a 52mil opening in only 2,800 theaters.
So you're telling me its ok to compare Ring Two with Batman Begins just because supposedly both of them are overpredicted even though Batman isnt out yet, thats smart. Looking at how well Batman Forever did, and in only 2800 theaters, you really think Batman Begins with most likely 4000 theaters, on June 17th, the week most kids get summer vacation cant do atleast 60mil, yet Amityville in April, with not even 1/8 of the hype Batman has already can make 60mil its opening weekend. Common man, you know its not gonna happen. We should be comparing Ring Two to Amityville both are horror movies and Amityville just like Ring Two will suffer from horror overload, people are just tired of horror movies, not just PG-13 horror movies, just horror movies in general.
I do think Amityville will do good though, or atleast decent, and i've said that a bunch of times.
When it comes to the amount of overhype the RING II had from the fanbase, BATMAN BEGINS is turning out the same way in both predictions and hype.. As for BATMAN FOREVER?? When did this movie comes out?? Back in 1995??? That was 10 years ago Kill.. The last BATMAN film was infinitely worse and enough so to where the casual moviegoing audience is still gonna remember that trainwreck of a movie, not to mention the fact that both WTBS and TNT will make absolute damn sure to show both movies before BEGINS in hyping it further reminding people of just how bad both really were and that's not a good thing to remember before a new BATMAN movie comes out..
As for the so called horror overload??? The only horror overload is the PG-13 Japanese bullshit horror along with the last 3 movies that folks are sick of, not R-Rated Horror which is what folks want.. PG-13 and horror just don't mix.. CURSED, BOOGEYMAN and RING II proved that.. And I wouldn't exactly hold my breath on BEGINS opening up on 4000 screens when ROTS probably won't even open on that many..
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Bell wrote: the most Amityville horror can open on the opening weekend is 30 million, if its get lucky it can hit 33 million. The most it can open up to?? Why?? Because it's Rated-R??? So was HANNIBAL and it was Rated-R and made 58 Million in 1 weekend, even though it's not full fledged horror in the true sense, but according to those dumb fucks at IMDB, They classify HANNIBAL as Horror... Amityville's gonna open up alot higher than that my friend.. 1 week to go.. :rock:
HANNIBAL si not a horror genre, it's a thriller genre. and it has good cast like Anthony Hokins and Jullianne Moore. while Amityville only had Ryan Reynolds, which still consider as a newbie.
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This thread deserves Razzie of the Week award.
=D>
Hannibal was a one hit wonder coming off a Movie of the year that won 30++ awards.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102926/awards
It also brought in many age groups. We all saw what happened when Red Dragon was released after. Didnt do anywhere near what Hannibal did. Hannibal was a lot of hype and little substance.
Amityville (which I hope does well) will not possibly open up higher than Hannibal. Would be great for the film of course and would certainly be something to talk about. I mean no one on earth would expect it. But, that just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Both Batman and Amityville will do good for their respective genres. Thats all I have to say.
Nighty Night!!!
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:48 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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Bell wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Bell wrote: the most Amityville horror can open on the opening weekend is 30 million, if its get lucky it can hit 33 million. The most it can open up to?? Why?? Because it's Rated-R??? So was HANNIBAL and it was Rated-R and made 58 Million in 1 weekend, even though it's not full fledged horror in the true sense, but according to those dumb fucks at IMDB, They classify HANNIBAL as Horror... Amityville's gonna open up alot higher than that my friend.. 1 week to go.. :rock: HANNIBAL si not a horror genre, it's a thriller genre. and it has good cast like Anthony Hokins and Jullianne Moore. while Amityville only had Ryan Reynolds, which still consider as a newbie.
I agree.. It is Thriller, but IMDB will tell you it's Horror.. Go figure.. Probably one of the worst websites with some of the worst posters ever that don't know there ass from a hole in a ground..
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:17 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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coolmoviedude999 wrote: This thread deserves Razzie of the Week award. =D> Hannibal was a one hit wonder coming off a Movie of the year that won 30++ awards. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102926/awardsIt also brought in many age groups. We all saw what happened when Red Dragon was released after. Didnt do anywhere near what Hannibal did. Hannibal was a lot of hype and little substance. Amityville (which I hope does well) will not possibly open up higher than Hannibal. Would be great for the film of course and would certainly be something to talk about. I mean no one on earth would expect it. But, that just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Both Batman and Amityville will do good for their respective genres. Thats all I have to say. Nighty Night!!!
Amityville will bring in the same age group as Hannibal did for the mere fact that this is is an incredibly well known case for the last 25 years, whether folks believe it's true or a hoax.. I do believe that if this does in fact open on Thursday like MOVIEHOLE.NET says, I'll give the weekend at just over 50 Million.. If not and it opens on GFriday, then I still stick to my guns on this and my prediction and hope I can pull off a lightening strikes twice with this like I predicted for the RING II.. Amityville is that well known and this will be talked about ALOT after next weekend..
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:22 am |
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How did BOOGEYMAN and RING TWO prove horror and PG13 don't mix?
Boogeyman grossed nearly $50M in america alone, on a budget less than $20M.
The Ring Two is nearly at $70M in less than 4 weeks. Well passing it's budget aswell.
So yeah....Only CURSED has suffered from the PG13 thing.
Amityville will NOT top $50M.
Or $40M.
I say $20M-$25M.
But hope for more.
Although i am getting sick and tired of the overload of internet adds....yawn.
I still wanna see it alot.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:14 am |
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Bell
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Bell wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Bell wrote: the most Amityville horror can open on the opening weekend is 30 million, if its get lucky it can hit 33 million. The most it can open up to?? Why?? Because it's Rated-R??? So was HANNIBAL and it was Rated-R and made 58 Million in 1 weekend, even though it's not full fledged horror in the true sense, but according to those dumb fucks at IMDB, They classify HANNIBAL as Horror... Amityville's gonna open up alot higher than that my friend.. 1 week to go.. :rock: HANNIBAL si not a horror genre, it's a thriller genre. and it has good cast like Anthony Hokins and Jullianne Moore. while Amityville only had Ryan Reynolds, which still consider as a newbie. I agree.. It is Thriller, but IMDB will tell you it's Horror.. Go figure.. Probably one of the worst websites with some of the worst posters ever that don't know there ass from a hole in a ground..
maybe they didn't saw the movie, and that's why they called it Horror movie, i don't see any Horror element in Hannibal.
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STEVE ROGERS
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mansonmyers wrote: How did BOOGEYMAN and RING TWO prove horror and PG13 don't mix?
Boogeyman grossed nearly $50M in america alone, on a budget less than $20M.
The Ring Two is nearly at $70M in less than 4 weeks. Well passing it's budget aswell.
So yeah....Only CURSED has suffered from the PG13 thing.
Amityville will NOT top $50M. Or $40M.
I say $20M-$25M.
But hope for more.
Although i am getting sick and tired of the overload of internet adds....yawn.
I still wanna see it alot.
20-25 Million??? Explain to me why your shooting so low for this?? Dude, the history of this thing is incredibly popular and very well known and is doing very well in it's DVD Box Set sales, if for anything that Documentary from The History Channels Mysteries into the investigation of this.. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend you watch it and then come back and see if you don't change your box office prediction to a little higher.. This movies going to make a fortune next weekend$$$$...
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Horror movies normally do well, and they are the most profitable movies in hollywood, because they are cheap to produce. This movie should do well, but I think a lot of you are overpredicting this one. It will not make more than $100 million, that is for sure.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:49 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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PinkPanther wrote: Horror movies normally do well, and they are the most profitable movies in hollywood, because they are cheap to produce. This movie should do well, but I think a lot of you are overpredicting this one. It will not make more than $100 million, that is for sure.
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That is not for sure and what do you base your explanation on?? This is one of the most popular mysteries and actual factual account of somerthing that happened in real life.. Based on a True Story and the audience for this is there, not to mention the fact that the marketing has been excellent and the trailers are very effective....
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http://www.moviehole.net/news/5416.html
Here's MOVIEHOLE.NET's interview with George Lutz.. Another great interview and this is gonna be a great week for this.. =D> =D>
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BKB, do you really believe that The Amityville Horror will make even half of Batman Begins' opening weekend in its first three days?
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:58 am |
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Kris K
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My FINAL predictions.
$24,000,000.
$62,000,000.
Obviously, i hope it does way more, but this would be solid.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:52 am |
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Bell
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Dr. Lecter wrote: BKB, do you really believe that The Amityville Horror will make even half of Batman Begins' opening weekend in its first three days?
what he believes is The Amityville Horror will open at 50 Million and ends up with 200 Million. 
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PinkPanther wrote: Horror movies normally do well, and they are the most profitable movies in hollywood, because they are cheap to produce. This movie should do well, but I think a lot of you are overpredicting this one. It will not make more than $100 million, that is for sure.
25/76
Those legs are unrealistic.
If it tops a 2.8x multiplier, I'll be shocked.
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I know there's been shitloads of horror this year but I can see Amityville having a bigger appeal because of the whole 'true story' thing, and while I don't see it having legs unless it's really awesome (and few horror movies are ever awesome enough to have legs) I'll go with $26.5m opening and not be surprised if it surpasses it.
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BKB how much are you willing to bet it will make 50 or even 40 on its opening weekend?
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Impact wrote: BKB how much are you willing to bet it will make 50 or even 40 on its opening weekend?
All bets are closed since I'm still settling mine with Maverikk which expires at the end of the week.. I'm telling you this is going to be ALOT bigger than you think it will.. I repeatedly told all of you WHY I thought The RING II would gross what I predicted and you all didn't and wouldn't hear any of it and look what happened?? You all said it was impossible for the RING II to make under 50 Million dollars and look what it made??Now I'm telling you this is going to be very popular this weekend and gross alot higher than you think it will.. Too much underestimating around here.. We will see.. 4 days and counting!! :woo:
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