If only the world is that simple.. The West blames it on Muslims. Muslims blame it on the West. If each side cuts all ties with the other, all conflicts will be contained and the world will be at peace.

Well, I said it as a dream ideal. I wasn't exactly throwing it into ring at the United Nations as a possible solution.

Well, no, Madrid 2004 was worse.

The Paris Premiere of Bridge of Spies has now been cancelled. Those bastards.

But there is some good news! U2 cancelled their concert. Saving Parisians from further aural agony.

Islamic state declares responsibility...there you have it.

Their self proclaimed capital is Raqqa. It's time it is leveled to the ground.

Francois Hollande has declared this an act of war. Let's see if he actually means what he says. I want to see their warplanes involved in bombing every ISIS stronghold, base, or supply line.

Speaking of supply lines, I heard that term used yesterday as US warplanes provided air cover for Kurdish fighters retaking Sinjah. I couldn't believe it. How does ISIS even have supply lines if not for fake West bombing runs. We have 100% air control. If they are serious they will be covering the skies 24/7 and blowing up anything exiting ISIS territory until it has been liberated by Iraqis, Kurds or Syrians. Turkey should get off its ass and move in on ISIS territory on its border. The West needs to join Russia and start a massive blanket bombing campaign until ISIS has been defeated in Syria and Iraq and we need to quit funding terrorists in Syria. Sick of it all.

Who is actually giving the money to the IS? Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc?

At least 200 million to train rebel Syrian terrorists. All the while we funnel supplies to so called moderate rebels in Syria. First, we shouldn't even be there. Second, how we get away with trying to overthrow a foreign government in plain view is amazing. Finally, the only place we actually are beholden to is Iraq. We owe their people assistance in destroying ISIS in Iraq and retaking Mosul and pushing them out of Iraq.

When is the right time, professor?

Except one side is mostly right and one side is mostly wrong.

So so sad.

And just as sad is that its just the start and nothing will be done to control the problem. The lefties will make sure anyone trying to sort the problem out are fascists, racists etc. Insanity.

Not sure about the lefties doing that. I see that Putin has pledged action against IS due to the attack.

The irony is that these terrorists destroy themselves in retaliation for the apparent death of "Jihadi John", and like cockroaches, nobody knows their names. It is Stupid to sacrifice yourself as an unknown martyr, and despicable to destroy the innocent on behalf of politics.

It's interesting how easy I (we) forget. If I had to recall any terrorist attacks, I wouldn't have remembered Madrid.

Terrible what happened in Paris and yeah, hopefully they're able to do something to prevent this permanently. It does sound like a wishful thought only.

Yup. See this thread.

At least give a time for mourning to second guess. Of course, that is what happens when we live in this 24 news cycle. 30 years ago would haven't seen the media talk about it besides the tragedy of it. And professor I don't think so. I am no expert of the middle east.

I suspect there will be bombings. I don't want ground troops. We need to influence the middle east to send in troops let them clean up their mess.

The Foo Fighters have cancelled their shows in Paris and Lyon now too! Those ISIS scum. And one Briton was among the dead in Paris.

I do not think that ISIS can be defeated without massive inolvement of ground troops.

Iraqis Kurds Syrians and what should be Turks and Jordanian troops should be the ground forces since they are already there. The problem was my idiot politicians decided to fund free Syrian terrorists. In addition, current politicians besides Trump who doesn't care that Russia is bombing ISIS or CIA Syrians, they all want to focus on regime change instead of destroying ISIS.

This is a major oversimplification, though.

The Turkish Kurds are fighting ISIS, the very same Kurds that want to separate themselves from Turkexy and have their own state. No way that Turkey will fight alongside them and the weapons we supply the Kurds with, will one day be turned against Turkey itself. And Turkey, as a NATO ally, can turn to the rest of Europe for help then - help against the weapons we supplied the Kurds with.

Of course it could be solved by Kurds actually getting their own state, but, well, lol. Turkey will never allow that to happen and Russia would not support that either. So while the Kurds are busyn fighting ISIS, Turkey is busy fighting the Kurds.

Honestly, professor, I fail to see what the "second guess" may be. 30 years ago, you were not alive or at least were unable to comprehend the media's reporting of events. I highly doubt the people of 30 years ago were more into talking about tragedy rather than doing sometime as this generation is. Just like the people 30 years before that were even less so.

We all know who did this. As a professor, I thought you liked to use history as a way to help comprehend the future. We may have no good options but naval gazing and whining will result in jack shit in solving this problem.

Agree. Bombings hurt but it will not defeat them.

The problem is Isis can go underground and hide among civilians. We would have trouble fighting them that way. Honestly, the best solution would be to take every western force out of the middle east and let them kill each other.

Well I was just saying lets wait day before we get into trying to figure a solution. I wanted to mourn the victims first. Media was different back then, though, 24 hour news has ruined politics and much of our life. It has become too hateful on both sides for my taste. I don't like being called professor and don't think you can use history to predict the future, but help us be better people in the future.

Though I generally don't buy into black and white concepts of good and evil, ISIS is about as close to "evil" as it can get. By "kill each other" you must also mean to allow them kill innocent people over and over and to enforce their insane ideologies. An organization like ISIS cannot be allowed to exist and stand by, mind your own business and watch it happen? Well, that worked out just great with Nazi Germany, when the rest of the world took a while until any action was taken. It is a form of civil courage not to tolerate what happens there.

Anyone saying that we should just all let them be and keep to ourselves doesn't grasp that we all live in the same world and now, more than ever, there are no real borders to speak of.