Stallone was a mega box office star
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: Stallone was a mega box office star
And you know what film did it?
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Algren
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Dr. Lecter wrote: And you know what film did it? Well, my gran was a big Stallone fan, and I spent a lot of time at her house. Plus, my uncle was still living with her and he had the Rambo III video, so we wanted to watch that. It was an '18' and I was only young, but the cover alone made it look awesome (he used to let us watch Predator, but stopped it when anything gory happened). My gran had a big Cobra poster on her bedroom wall. She was the best gran ever. Also, my auntie used to have all the Rocky's on VHS (taped off the TV), and this was back when films were not so easily attainable ( Rambo: First Blood Part II, for example, was considered a "deleted" title). My gran had been a follower of Stallone right back to when she first saw him in Rocky. But what really turned her into a fan was when she saw First Blood. We have talked for many hours about the films she went to see and where to, the culture surrounding it etc. It was great. I love talking about old cinema and box office. All of these things sparked my interest in Stallone.
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Algren
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I was looking over the French box office of 1994 and Stallone had two #1 films; Demolition Man and The Specialist. They both opened to such similar grosses, The Specialist slightly more.
Assassins, a year later, opened at #4. Cliffhanger, a year earlier, didn't feature at #1 because of Germinal, but it opened much higher than The Specialist at #2 and stayed in the Top 4 for 6 weeks.
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Algren
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When Rambo First Blood Part II opened in France, its first week had 5,400 people attend each screen. Considering back in 1985 they only had showings in the evenings, pretty impressive.
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Algren
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What I'll never understand is how Rhinestone cost $28m to produce. Stallone got $4m, Dolly got $2m. Where does the other $22m go? I know that it had a change of director, which probably halted production and may have cost a bit, but still $22m is huge for the type of film it was. And it's listed as having a "production budget" of $28m, so there were no marketing, prints, advertising added in to that figure. It was made with a largely unknown countryside cast.
20th Century Fox, coming off the mega success of The Return of the Jedi and The Empire Strikes Back (among others) just seemed to be throwing money at everything. I admit that a Stallone and Dolly collaboration may have seemed like a good idea (but surely not a comedy musical), but still, $28m should never, ever, ever have been approved for this movie. There is literally nothing to spend it on besides the two stars.
No wonder it made a loss. Such an enormous budget for it...it was never going to break even. It grossed $21m in the US, which actually by today's standards is pretty impressive, but back in 1984 the overseas box office wasn't as beneficial as it is today.
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Algren
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When Rambo First Blood Part II opened, its CinemaScore was "A", and half of its viewers were male and under 25.
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MadGez
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Re: Stallone was a mega box office star
Slightly OT but a Rocky related anecdote from my childhood you may find amusing Algren.
1983 and we had a school excursion to the movies (I was only 5 years old) and that morning my mum told me we were going to watch Rocky (as in Rocky III). I couldn't be happier. I excitedly told all the kids at school that we were going to see Rocky and a few of them shot me down straightaway. It turned out we were going to watch the Aussie dog movie "Dusty". I was totally bummed and had a miserable time.
My mum had confused Rocky with Dusty and the fact that the older school kids were actually going to watch Rocky III. Not bad for 10 and 11 year olds going to watch Rocky come to think of it.
I would see the film a few years later on VHS. Then Rocky IV was probably my favourite movie as a 10 year old. Also loved III because of Hulk Hogan (as a mad WWF fan) and Mr T (loved The A Team).
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Algren
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Haha. Awesome. I really did enjoy that. Cheers. I remember when I was younger (a much more gullible Algren) my uncle would ask me (knowing I was a Rocky and Stallone nut) "But have you seen Rocky Ivy?". I would be like "What, no, I've not even heard of it. What's it about?". He would reply "It's the Rocky movie where he faces a person called Ivy". He got me a few times on this before my gran (bless her) let me in on it (Ivy = IV). The bugger was fooling me and using Rocky IV, and I walked straight into a few times.
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Ah the good ol roman numerals. Cool trick by your uncle and really makes for great memories!
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I remember Assassins being a big disappointment BO wise because I thought it would be big (Stallone + Banderas who's star was rising). However, adjusted the $58m doesn't seem so bad (I mean its like Black Mass for example and that film's gross is seen as solid).
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Algren
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Yeah, and I guess Stallone's image at that point was kind of similar to Depp's now.
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Algren
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Stallone's salaries:The Party at Kitty & Studs $200Klute Bananas No Place to Hide The Lords of Flatbush $2,000Prisoner of Second Avenue Capone Farewell, My Lovely Death Race 2000 $5,000Rocky $23,000Carquake F.I.S.T. Paradise Alley Rocky II $2,000,000Nighthawks Escape to Victory Rocky III $5,000,000First Blood $3,500,000Staying Alive $1,000,000Rhinestone $4,000,000Rambo: First Blood Part II $15,000,000Rocky IV $15,000,000Cobra $12,000,000Over the Top $12,000,000Rambo III $16,000,000Lock Up $15,000,000Tango & Cash $15,000,000Rocky V $20,000,000Oscar $15,000,000Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot Cliffhanger $15,000,000Demolition Man $15,000,000The Specialist $15,000,000Judge Dredd $20,000,000Assassins $20,000,000Daylight $17,500,000Copland $60,000Burn Hollywood Burn Antz Get Carter $20,000,000Driven $20,000,000Avenging Angelo D-Tox $17,500,000Spy Kids 3D: Gameover Taxi 3 Shade The Contender (16 Episodes) $2,000,000 per episodeRocky Balboa Rambo ----- Now what will happen is Thegun will claim these are all incorrect.
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Algren wrote: Judge Dredd $20,000,000 Assassins $20,000,000 Daylight $17,500,000 Get Carter $20,000,000 Driven $20,000,000 D-Tox $17,500,000 Domestic totals: Judge Dredd $34,693,481Assassins $30,303,072Daylight $33,023,469Get Carter $14,967,182Driven $32,720,065D-Tox $79,161He certainly brought them eyeballs to the theaters. Paycheck well earned!
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Algren
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At that time, Stallone a huge video rental attraction. He earned his salaries...which is why he kept getting those inflated salaries, time and time again.
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Chippy
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studios make all their money via video rentals
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Algren wrote: Get Carter $20,000,000 Driven $20,000,000 D-Tox $17,500,000 This is absolutely infrickingcredible. Even with video rentals, they all got very box office results. Was there anyone else aside from Schwarzenegger getting that kind of money in the early 2000s?
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Chippy wrote: studios make all their money via video rentals Can't wait when they finally abandon useless theaters.
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stuffp wrote: Algren wrote: Get Carter $20,000,000 Driven $20,000,000 D-Tox $17,500,000 This is absolutely infrickingcredible. Even with video rentals, they all got very box office results. Was there anyone else aside from Schwarzenegger getting that kind of money in the early 2000s? Arnold, Ford, Gibson, Douglas, Cruise, and Hanks. I remember Ford had the biggest salary of all time at 25 million for 12 days of work on K19. Then Arnold beat it at 30 million for T3. While other actors have been paid more through gross %. To Algren's point, most of those sound right. He made a lot more than 23,000 for the first Rocky though, that may have been just his acting contract. I mean he was offered like 250k just for the script. I think Expendables he got 7.5 million, 10 for part 2 and 15 for Expendables 3. even though his output was less bankable then the others, his films did great OS and had high video rentals as well as TV deals. Getting paid 17.5 million for a film that only made 50,000 in theaters is probably the most ridiculous thing ever.
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Algren
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He did earn more for Rocky, but his initial salary was just $23,000 because they let him play the lead. That was the sacrifice. But as it did tremendously well, he eventually earned more.
I've never seen his salaries for The Expendables trilogy anywhere official so I'll take those with a pinch of salt.
And yeah, Arnie's deal (not just his salary) for Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines was absolutely incredible. He came away with about $60m in total.
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Some other big ones that people made at least 60 million.
Nicholson- Batman Ford- Indy 4 Cruise- Mission Impossible (And 100+ For MI2 and WOTW) Hanks- Forrest Gump Bullock- Gravity Apart from Cruise, Willis for 6th Sense and Smith for MIB3 earned 100+ Keanu Reeves made over 75 per Matrix sequel
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Algren
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How far Stallone films got up the all-time domestic chart is just insane, and truly shows how big his films were:
Rocky got to #9 on the all-time in 1977. Modern-day equivalent: The Dark Knight Left the Top 100: July 1997 Duration: 20 years
Rocky II got to #30 in 1979. MDE: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Left the Top 100: July 1993 Duration: 14 years
Rocky III got to #16 in 1982. MDE: The Dark Knight Rises Left the Top 100: December 1998 Duration: 16 years
Staying Alive got to #79 in 1983. MDE: The Sixth Sense Left the Top 100: March 1986 Duration: 3 years
Rambo: First Blood Part II got to #17 in 1985. MDE: Shrek 2 Left the Top 100: November 2002 Duration: 17 years
Rocky IV got to #24 in 1986. MDE: Iron Man 3 Left the Top 100: July 1999 Duration: 13 years
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Shack
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Looking at that list in Algren's original post is interesting. Some ones that stood out
On Golden Pond - 19th all time, 371 mil adjusted. Terms of Endearment is also huge at 36th all time and 301 mil adjusted, although winning Best Picture helped. These types of films would be lucky to make 50 mil today?
Porky's - 34th all time, 345 mil adjusted. I would have guessed this was an American Pie like success, but it was way, way bigger
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Seven if that cameo in ET had made it to the final cut.
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