So let me ask you again what I wrote in the post above:

Who will write those analyses and articles?

I have by now a fair share of experience when it comes to running a decently successful website and I know that if you want to break through, you need updates daily. And that is one helluva lot of work. Who will do it?

Proofread bitch. Go fuck yourself, you piece of shit. Better than Keith Simanton, you piece of shit.

You never paid me (but that's because I refused to take it ). I did however win something on here twice and never got it.

Either way, I don't think there are the extensive weekend analyses, including projections, that I wrote to be found anywhere else online nowadays, but on the other hand the potential market for that is small.

And is it possible to break into an established market? It is. But it requires a dedicated team and patience (I invested 80hrs/week for months into it and it took over a year to finally start moving upwards).

And don't get me wrong, excel, I like the entusiasm and you obviously have got an entrepreneurial passion. But you are not a great box-office predictor. Most of those have left the forums.

Speak for yourself, sir.

I LOVED your weekend analyses.

Do you remember what you won?

Proofread your own shit, bitch.

Oh I know that there are a few knowledgables around and obviously, on average, we are way above general population when it comes to this, but you cannot deny that many box-office talents are gone or barely here anymore.

Ummm, I think I placed second in your UMM and it was something Star Wars related and then I predicted something right and won some X-Men DVDs or BluRays....don't really remmeber. Been a while. :-D I wasn't exactly pushing about it either, so I guess it was my fault too, heh.

I don't think the web site needs to be updated daily to be successful if you can build a stand out reputation. Understand the target market and what they want. Figure out what isn't already out there.

Here is a newsflash: not everything goes according to plan, yet, in almost every single box office prediction you will find, anywhere on the web, everything goes to plan. Maybe as SLIGHT disappointment or break out, here or there, but that's it. You sit here and say I am poor predictor, but what it is comical to me, is that if this say. sports betting? I'd have made more money from "calls" than anybody else here would have with their steady ball parks which are essentially the box office equivalent of riding the market. Say whatever you want. If 2 1/2 years ago, we had spent 5 or 6 weeks saying Skyfall was going open way higher than the 60-65 ballpark everybody had it pegged for, that would have earned us some credibility in the eyes of the folks who pay attention. Ditto the call for 300 million.

It's akin to a sports coach, who can watch a game and see who see is currently well, who is not etc, compared to the general manager who see what a player can develop into, what they will or will not develop into, etc. There is FAR more vale in the latter than in the former.

Yes, Loyal is right - standing out and differentiating ourselves from similar sites with similar content will be very difficult if folks, to be blunt, don't have the capacity to understand things don't always go as planned, don't have the vision to anticipate ahead of time which we may they may go, and don't have the balls to put it out there that this is what they think.

Sure, many of my clubs are "victory in spirit" only because they mean nothing to me monetarily. Others are shots in the dark which mean nothing. But know this: if this were an actual movie studio, all the harping I did about big films which I thought would under/over perform (and did) would have a helluva lot more value to the studio than the person who can more accurately predict what a film will do that coming weekend.

I think we need to focus - EXCLUSIVELY - on big tent pole films with real tangible fan bases and have razor sharp, undeniable analytical ability for their box office prospects.

People will pay attention to that. And if we listen to what I have to say (I'll be reasonable and not retarded), you better believe there is a lot of value there.

That's just growing business 101 on a conceptual level. If you go into business to be just like another major player, good luck. It's like how every Marvel movie tries to be just like the last one. But if you go into business with a real vision for something which isn't out there yet, like say, each Nolan TDK movie did...that is where the real potential lies.

I didn't say you were a poor predictor. You're decent. But if you want to stand out you need a bunch of great great calls and not 50% great calls and 50% of failures (think of the link assortment that I presented you recently).

You are sbolutely right. Had we been predicting $300 million for Skyfall, it'd have been great. But last year, you'd have called Hercules to gross $250 million and everyone would have known right away that it was a dumbass prediction, so...

There is a lot of talent here, are you serious? Sure, Baba was real good. But who else?

I mean this wholeheartedly- the amount of money some of the folks here could have saved here is huge. And that is not the case for box office forums. Think of things in phases, from conceptually (the actual concept), to execution (actor hired, quality of film, etc) to release strategy (marketing, release date). It isn't difficult if you REALLY focus.

I never would have published the Hercules predictions. I would have published Transformers sub 250 - which was a shocking success, btw- and 22 Jump Street break out. Felt very strongly about those 2. I did think Hercules would have been bigger than it was, though.

I would offset that be limiting predictions to a 4 or 6 weeks range, MAX. I wouldn't actually put any numbers on paper until we were with 4 or 6 weeks of release, everything else would just be analysis.

My poor predictions are largely explainable, (i.e. just being retarded ala australia though that did have a great trailer). I have too many correctly called break outs and under performers for it to be sheer coincidence. I generally know what the fuck I am talking about, though nobody is perfect.

Frankly, I have no idea how folks couldn't just feel that the market for Transformers - espec. w/o the original stars - was played out going into last summer. I knew all along it would under perform series precedents (and expecs) every step of the way, and of course it did.,

But the further in advance good calls are the more impressive are they.

Which is why I would use a system with "break out potential", "under performer potential", "large scale break out" potential, "bomb" potential,of sorts, etc where every film would stay until the 6 week mark.

I am talking about a systematic evaluation of the aggregate components of a films box office potential and performance for only blockbusters.

Again, Hercules from 2014 is clearly offset but Transformers sub 250. Last summer was a success, IMO.

I guess I'm curious what's stopping you from doing all that now Excel? It looks like there's a system in place for posting articles. Spend the next 12 weeks of busy box office adding content to the main page, bumping out all the outdated stuff.

Loyal is actually right. The website is not going anywhere right this very moment and Jurassic World is coming up. Throw out some stuff, see how it goes.

I enjoyed reading zwackerm's article more than anything Excel has written in the last three years.

Though the first paragraph is a little silly.

Zwackerm's article is not great and if there is a main site, I don't think that should go on it like that. But I am not just bashing zwackerm. When I was 16, an article like this from me would have sucked as well. Believe it or not, you do get better with age up to a certain point.

The best way for Z to improve in that regard would be to read others. Reading is the best way to improve as a writer aside from actually writing, editing, etc.

Give me a few minutes.

One of the few things in this thread, I completely agree with you on.

Some well-meaning advice to zwackerm, if you care to read it:

If you think content is everything that matters....it isn't. The way it looks matters too. You can bold some titles, but do not overuse it. The article just looks weird. Try not to bold more than one title per paragraph, bold the title that you are specifically talking about.

Also, no matter how unimportant it seems - always proof-read. The proof-read again. Then have a proof-reading program check it. Every single typo or mistake takes a little away from the credibility. I know what I am talking about. A year ago I wrote an article on my website on some fresh Avengers (I think it was that scoop) and it had two typos over 600 words in it, which prompted several readers to claim that this was not a credible source if it had typos. These things matter to people. Your analysis can be top-notch, but if the text is shabby, people will only see that.

I admire Excel's enthusiasm but I think you might be thinking too big. No one here has the time or energy to dedicate to try and turn KJ into the next Box Office Mojo or something.

If you're gonna fix up the site I would suggest starting small and low-profile and try to build up a following that way, not attack it with an aggressive plan that would just drain people's resources and make people lazy/resentful/blah.