I think we should all talk Rockys words into account. Or if that doesn't work, we have to go Rambo on the troublemakers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsJnxlXepsY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWDktQ6mV1c

Are you trying to deny white people haven't systematically oppressed black people for centuries? Seriously? What is even the point of this comment? You are racist as hell too.

Are you trying to deny white people haven't systematically oppressed black people for centuries? Seriously? What is even the point of this comment? You are racist as hell too.

Are you OK with how the White Man today is being held down and the black men is getting all the opportunities, whether deserved or undeserved.

Black opportunities are very undeserved. I think we can agree on that. They're only getting opportunities now because we have allowed them to do so, not because of talent.

LMAO

Please ban this troll.

Sorry but let me LMAO with all the BS that you have talked about in this thread. Talking about centuries of oppression Calling people out for being racist if they disagree with you. Ignoring the violent acts done by blacks which help to incite the fear more than anything else. Just look at the protests for Trayvon that has turned violent because they didn't agree with the very fair trial. And FYI being a white in today's world is just as hard as it is for blacks. Especially like when blacks don't want to move on for the better. Just keep on rehashing past BS that isn't getting them anywhere.

ironmanbarry speaks the truth. Black people really don't want to move on and/or have peace. They LOVE to bring up the sob story of slavery every time they feel life didn't deal them a good hand. And for some reason, when things aren't going well for them, it's never their fault. Instead of working hard at life, they just mug people, con people, shout at people, or rap about all of those things and never actually move on. Slavery affected no blacks currently living, so I see no need to bring it up all the fucking time.

Morgan Freeman had it right when he said "if you want racism to go away, then you have to stop talking about it", but it seems that blacks just can't control the irresistable urge for an excuse for their poor life status.

Very True and spot on. And besides the poor poor blacks, lets add in other races and colors and women and today the white man who can't get anywhere, as so much is given away to others and in this pretty messed up world today, there isn't as much out there as there used to be. So how about JUSTICE FOR MANKIND!

This thread's just plain silly now.

Why cause we don't agree with you, as above I showed you wrong here.



And are you saying that there are no similar troubles that others faces, or that the black people are doing themselves justice today. Also as I pointed out, Zimmerman also would have followed a 17 year old white kid doing the same thing. But you wouldn't want to discuss that point. Or what Obama and the other Blacks are saying, they are unfairly watched. Well I am unfairly watched by black groups when I am outside. So again Justice for Mankind, as that is what we should be talking about.

No of course you acknowledge but you fight and endure and do well in life.

Not wallow away in self pity.

Agreed. Try Try Try and don't Bitch & Whine & Complain & Expect Free Handouts

Actually I was not just referring to your posts, but now that you responded in this manner without stopping and thinking about the thread as a whole (i.e. you're not the only person who's posted in this thread), you've only gone on to contribute to the lack of open-minded reasoning here.

First off, if you recall, I agreed with the outcome of the trial from a legal point of view.

Second, my point is to take away the Stand Your Ground Law, this is just more evidence of how guns cause more issues than they resolve.

Third, there is the often times false stereotype that black men are dangerous. Yes blacks contribute to this stereotype through their pop culture. Many black leaders who do not get the same amount of coverage as Shaprton or Jackson are trying to address these issues, but this does not sell well in the media, thus they do not get the same amount of coverage as the loud and ignorant (look at the Tea Party, loud and ignorant sells). But this does not mean white people get a free pass to be prejudice.

Fourth, yes there is more pressure, many times unfair to the individual who should not shoulder the burden of his ancestors, on white's to act in a non-racist manner, but this does not mean whites are even remotely as "oppressed" as blacks. Many black communities were relocated to the urban setting in the 1940s. For a short period, blacks and white lived amongst each other under similar conditions in the 40s (outside of the south). However, many whites begun moving the suburban sections of the United States, whilst blacks did not. And this was because the black population was being charged higher rates than their white counterparts because having blacks in a neighborhood decreased the property values. And so blacks remained in the ubran section of this country. Meanwhile, as a whole, blacks were a generally more poor demographic that suddenly dominated the now equally poor urban sections of this country. A poor sector of the economy then means a poor education. And this then leads to the 1950s and the Brown vs. Board of Education...but this is a long story that takes a while to explain. What it means is that today, many urbanites which includes a large chunk of the black demographic, receives poor education and are generaly poor themselves, leading to the lack of important role models, crime, unplanned parenting, the manipulation of religion as a community standard, etc.

Fifth, and final, the leading cause to the woes of blacks in this community is not active white oppression despite what misguided white guilted liberals might say, it is a fundamental problem with education of the destribution of wealth in this country. Meanwhile the media's championing of such figures as Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton serves only to cloak these real issues and create uneeded racial tension for personal profit. Figures such as them have made it near impossible to talk about race with others, especially blacks because they have created such a stir amongst both whites and blacks and has only further served to broaden stereotypes against blacks. There are plenty of examples of outstanding black leaders within the United States, but they are often overlooked because once again, loud sells volumes.

So, the Zimmerman trial is more of an example of how out of control the media can be in twisted the opinion of a nation and creating more issues than they claim to resolve because the media is about sensationalism, not rational discussion. This is why figures such as Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, and other flourish.

Nobody is wallowing in self-pity, what are you even talking about? Do you not realize this sort of thing, a black man being shot at simply because someone found him threatning, happens every.single.day? How is pointing that out and demanding justice "wallowing in self pity"?

And WHY do you think the distribution of wealth is so one sided, favouring whites? Why do you areas with a predominantly white population have better schools? Why do you think it's more unlikely for a black family to earn as much as a white family, or for them to have inherited as much money as a white family would?

What you're talking about IS a form of active white oppression.

Yes, because us whites rub our hands together maliciously in our mansions trying to twart blackie because we all want them to not succeed so we can buy more mayo for our turkey sandwiches.

Dude, if you bothered to read my post, I labeled the reasons in post four. The answers to all your questions: it is a long historical trend, and it is not a conscious active effort on white people. We are living in a society that has to deal with the consequences of the past. People these days are not actively trying to bring down anyone, at least not at a large scale. This is why you see so much backlash racism.

Now if you want to have a level-headed, well thought out conversation, I will participate. But if you want to throw down on a yelling match without reason. I don't have time for another Goldie.

Darth. Some good talk but still very naive and unproven opening sentence above where you ignored the thing that was wrong and irresponsible and one that most blacks like Barbasas and Rev Al are keying on, incorrectly. Since Zimmerman didn't have a past history of racial issues, both in this call or in past calls. He was just looking for strange behavior in his crime ridden neighborhood, as per his phone call.

Every single day, well then post the links as I missed these stories in the news. And the lawyers, judges, legal analysts and newscasters were smart enough to realize that Following wasn't the issue in the trial. per legal grounds. It was the fight at the end, not the following at the beginning. Where the details are unknown. And like I said above, Zimmerman didn't make an issue of race in this call or previous calls, so you and people like Rev Al are way off base.

Iron Man, if I'm not mistaken, didn't Zimmerman refer to Martin as a "coon" in one of the phone calls?That could be evidence of racism.

No, he said those criminals, which could have just meant just criminals, nothing more. As he never profiles blacks in his past calls or questions.

I don't have any desire to keep talking to you because you are clearly extremely ignorant about how privilege works, and frankly it's not my job to educate you. But I will tell you that whether or not you "actively" participate in that system, you are still part of it, and you still support it. And yes, there ARE attempts to systematically oppress on a large scale, many of them based in the legal system.

And I am white myself, FYI, so I know damn well not all white people get together to discuss putting down other races.

Although it's not my job to educate you, I'll still provide this article for you to read as a starting point, and Google is at your disposal so you can educate yourself:

http://www.dickshovel.com/priv.html

Also, DIB, when did it become "a shouting match"?

Or is asking a bunch of rhetorical questions on a forum suddenly shouting? And because you feel uncomfortable with the way I'm asking you something you suddenly want to call the whole conversation off and say you "don't have time for it"? Sounds like exactly the kind of thing someone who tries to silence and undermine the experiences of non-white people would say, especially since you seemingly assumed I wasn't white.