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Rev
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
Eagle wrote: Chippy wrote: As Groucho posted on his blog...
White guy, walking through the hood, gets followed by a black man with a legal owned and carried gun. White guys tries to fight his way out, black guy shoots and kills him.
Black guy is in prison. Fact. This is not a fact, this is an assumption. In Sanford,FL that would be a fact 99.99% of the time sadly
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:35 pm |
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Chippy
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
First jury vote was split 3-3. I guess the jury got caught up in the media spin 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:01 am |
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nghtvsn
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
Um. No Chip. They went over the evidence and realized the prosecution failed. Why is that so hard for you people to get...enough already. Quote: An initial vote was divided. Three of the jurors first voted Zimmerman was guilty, while three voted he was not guilty, she said. Juror B37 was among those who believed he was not guilty from the start. "There was a couple of them in there that wanted to find him guilty of something and after hours and hours and hours of deliberating over the law, and reading it over and over and over again, we decided there's just no way, other place to go," she said.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:26 am |
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Chippy
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
So after hearing all of the trial firsthand, three of the jurors thought he was guilty. After seeing all of the evidence and having it presented to them, they thought he was guilty.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:30 am |
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ironmanbarry
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
Chippy wrote: First jury vote was split 3-3. I guess the jury got caught up in the media spin  Jurors don't hear news from the media.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:30 am |
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Chippy
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
ironmanbarry wrote: Chippy wrote: First jury vote was split 3-3. I guess the jury got caught up in the media spin  Jurors don't hear news from the media. 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:31 am |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
6 Indecisive Ladies
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:47 am |
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ironmanbarry
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
David wrote: 6 Indecisive Ladies It seems that they understood the facts of the case better than you.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:49 am |
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ironmanbarry
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
Magnus wrote: ironmanbarry wrote: David wrote: 6 Indecisive Ladies It seems that they understood the facts of the case better than you. I would really hope that the jurors understood the facts beter than almost anyone considering THEY'RE THE ONES MAKING THE JUDGEMENT Yes I agree with that. I am just pointing out things to posters who are commenting with nonsense talk.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:00 pm |
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Chippy
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
So they know the case better than anyone here. Yet three of them still thought he was guilty.
Interesting.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:08 pm |
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David
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
ironmanbarry wrote: David wrote: 6 Indecisive Ladies It seems that they understood the facts of the case better than you. 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:13 pm |
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ironmanbarry
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Chippy wrote: So they know the case better than anyone here. Yet three of them still thought he was guilty.
Interesting. on Day 1, Not on Day 2, after they reviewed the evidence. Keep Up Please as that is a Clown Question Bro! 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:33 pm |
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ironmanbarry
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
David wrote: ironmanbarry wrote: David wrote: 6 Indecisive Ladies It seems that they understood the facts of the case better than you.  Yeah that proves your point. But it is better than hearing you talk. 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:34 pm |
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Chippy
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This is why we don't get many new members. Because they're usually like you and annoying as hell.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:35 pm |
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Chippy
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Also, you can't use an image twice like your clown one. It might've been funny the first time, but now not so much.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:46 pm |
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ironmanbarry
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
Chippy wrote: This is why we don't get many new members. Because they're usually like you and annoying as hell. Chippy, are you sure it isn't because of the quality of posts by the long term members here? 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:56 pm |
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ironmanbarry
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 Re: Zimmerman Trial
Chippy wrote: Also, you can't use an image twice like your clown one. It might've been funny the first time, but now not so much. Well, as the other one was posted in another forum section, I wanted to show this forum section that, as it is funny as hell. And Spot on! 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:59 pm |
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Chippy
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Most don't get it. Also, I didn't ask a question. Also, you SAID it, and then posted a picture with the exact same statement.
Fail.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:05 pm |
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ironmanbarry
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Chippy wrote: Most don't get it. Also, I didn't ask a question. Also, you SAID it, and then posted a picture with the exact same statement.
Fail. Ok Chippy, I don't want to put down or fight with one of KJ's most honored and respected members, especially if this thread. So I won't comment on that anymore but I think all but you got it, Bro.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:09 pm |
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Chippy
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Anyways...
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:11 pm |
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Barrabás
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The jury let him go because they were all middle aged white women who don't understand that Zimmerman following Trayvon was racial profiling. One of them even said "his heart was in the right place" which is basically saying that anybody has the right to feel threatened by a young black man simply because he is black. It was a racist crime and him walking free is racist.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:31 pm |
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Barrabás
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David wrote: Chippy wrote: A correct assumption.
Zimmerman gets the benefit of the doubt that his actions that night were noble. The hypothetical black male will not get that benefit of the doubt. This could very well be the case. Sad fact. However, should George Zimmerman be punished for it? Maybe we can shoot him in the balls and solve racism? You and others are trying to turn an individual case in an individual place with facts unto itself into an amorphous vehicle with which to prove a larger social point, which is bullshit. This case reflects wider social issues which is that black people are assumed to be dangerous and criminal and are never given the benefit of the doubt while white or white-passing individuals are, and are assumed to be righteous by default. And letting him go basically makes it legal for anyone to murder a black person in Florida because they were threatened by them simply because they were black.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:34 pm |
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Barrabás
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David wrote: You could bust Chip's nose and slam his head against the pavement for at least five minutes before he would say, "My, this is a bit unpleasant." So you really think he slammed his head against the pavement and was beating him to a pulp, and then Zimmerman went to the police station with no lasting or serious injuries being perfectly fine a couple hours later? And did Trayvon not have a right to defend himself from somebody FOLLOWING HIM AROUND WITH A GUN? Why doesn't the Stand Your Ground law apply to Trayvon? Why didn't he have a right to defend himself? Didn't he have WAY more reason to fear for his life?
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:37 pm |
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Barrabás
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: To me, the issue isn't the verdict. Based on the evidence it is a clear case of innocent until proven guilty. That's the way the law works and should work in a liberal society.
To me, the issue is rather or not black people would receive the same luxury. I don't think they would. It's just an assumption, but to me that is the true injustice in our society, not the Zimmerman was aquitted. A black woman was just sentenced to 20 years in prison for firing a warning shot trying to escape from her abusive husband. Nobody was injured, nothing was harmed. But she's going to spend the next 20 years in prison. Black people are third class citizens in the US.
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:39 pm |
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Barrabás
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Eagle wrote: At its core Chip, all that matters was Martin started the fight, Zimmerman feared for his life and acted in self defense. The rest is all part of the narrative. No evidence was presented that shows beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman acted with any intent or malice.
Incorrect. Zimmerman started the confrontation by FOLLOWING TRAYVON AT NIGHT WITH A GUN. There is PLENTY of evidence that shows Zimmerman acted with malice including: - Saying a racial slur on the phone directed at Trayvon while talking to the police - Having previously reported numerous "suspicious" black people in his neighbourhood which shows he is a racist wannabe vigilante - Having been thrown out of university due to be a danger to the campus which shows he is violent and reckless I'm treating Zimmerman like black people get treated. No benefit of the doubt.
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