1. The Ring 2 - 74.8
2. Robots - 24.5
3. The Pacifier - 10.9
4. Ice Princess - 8.5
5. Hitch - 5.4

Serious Word of Mouth huh? Well can you explain the B- Cinemascore grade? I think it was the time it was release, and the expansion of theaters was how that multiplier got so big. But in terms of popularity, I'm in on you on this one.

And speaking of the Grudge, isn't the original Japanese director directing this one? Talk about roots. My manager said that 4 prints is our minimum on this. Grudge and Village each got released in only three, and we ended up adding shows. No risk here.

Do I need to quote the entire thread, too?

No, I'll just do this:
>>And speaking of the Grudge, isn't the original Japanese director directing this one? Talk about roots. <<

Yeah, but unlike The Grudge (which is the exact same movie with different actors), the sequel to The Ring is completely different to Ringu2. I didn't think the American version of The Grudge was as good as the original, maybe because more producers were involved or he was working outside his native language. We'll see how Hideo Nakata handles the same.

Yes, the American version of Ju-On: The Grudge was directed by the same person as the Japanese version. There have been three or four Japanese Ju-On's, with most of them going direct-to-video so I'm not sure quite how the series works.

Heck yeah, The Ring had great WOM. It's 2nd, 3rd, and 4th weekend were all above the opening weekend, and those last two were after Halloween and had expanded, that doesn't happen simply by chance.

It's undeniable that The Ring had amazing WOM. Expansions don't mean a thing if people aren't interested.

Scott, you're definently wrong on this one. If it was only increasing based on expansions, then why did it's PTA remain constant? It's not like the PTA dropped off the second weekend. It stayed the same, basically. The WOM was amazing.

I was halloween weekend, and people were in the mood for horror, that's why the PTA was constant. Then explain the Cinemascore grade since you are so smart.

Explain the two weekends in November where it fell 2.0% and then 14%; that says far, far more than any Cinemascore.

Scott, Cinemascore is not the only form of finding out WOM.

The Ring didn't drop once over 40% until it's 8th weekend. I wouldn't exactly call that bad WOM considering that it's 8th weekend was in December, and it was fully done expanding by it's 4th weekend. It's average grade on IMDB is 7.4/10. It achieved an 8x+ mutliplier in 2002, when movies started to become more and more frontloaded. Let's not forget that it's a horror movie. Horror movies don't have those kind of legs, let alone any movie.

I don't see ONE good fact that shows that it had anything but great WOM.

Ring 2 could either do a Oceans Twelve (good run, but not as good as the original) or a Meet the Fockers (excellent run)

Meet the Fockers was another underpredicted sequel. Meet the Parents had excellent WOM, but people still thought the sequel would do worse. The same goes for The Bourne Supremacy. People thought it would do worse than the original (except a few), and it beat the original by almost $50 million after an awesome $52 million opening weekend.

The formula for those two movies you mentioned havent been done to death. I think that having too many Ring Clones like the Grudge,White Noise and Boogeyman would hurt the Ring 2's chances of making more than the original. The movie will have to show something better to outdistinguish itself from the original and not be just seen as a rehash of the first one like the main complaint of Ocean's 12. Dont forget that their were troubles with the production during the filming of the movie when Gore Verbinski refused to direct the movie again so they rushed out to find another director. Also they had to rewrite the script. Production troubles really hurt Cursed and I have been saying that for awhile but like you said "PEER PRESSURE" made me bump my Cursed prediction drastically even though I said it would bomb

Yeah, but it had virtually NO decrease post Halloween weekend man. I don't think you can really say that just because it got a B- on some internet site's surveys it means the movie didn't have amazing WOM. In this day and age, what movie EVER grosses that much? And lots of other movies have expanded, but didn't set the world on fire, and why? Because the word was that they weren't that amazing. Even if people didn't think The Ring was a great movie, obviously a ton of them said it was scary enough to suggest there friends see it, and saying a movie is extremely scary is a way better way of spreading WOM then saying it's a great movie.

1. The Ring Two -- $66 million
2. Robots -- $20 million
3. The Pacifier -- $11 million
4. Ice Princess -- $9 million
5. Be Cool -- $6 million

I have heard/seen nothing about ICE PRINCESS, and in the light of ROBOTS and PACIFIER, it will be interesting to see how it performs.

CONFESSIONS OF A TEENAGE DRAMA QUEEN/PRINCE AND ME numbers.

Is this like the biggest weekend prediction thread we've ever had?

Mine:
1. The String 2 47.0
2. Robo-Man 24.0
3. The Bottle 10.7
4. Ice Ice Baby 8.5
5. Married 5.5
6. Hostages 5.2
7. Be Warm 4.8
8. The Million Dollar Ransom 3.6
9. Diary of a Happy Lady 2.5
10. The Matrix: Constantine 1.8

Honestly the AVERAGE movie person has no idea what in the world cinemascore even is, most of the people that use it are us silly internet/forum people that really care about movies etc... that is a terrible way to determine WOM on huge blockbusters imo...

the BEST way to determine wom is listen to actual customers coming out of the movie in the lobby etc.. I mean you work in a theatre you should know this :razz: ...

And yes when we had the Ring all I heard was "damn that was awesome, scary as hell" etc etc... was amazing WOM..and for 3 straight weeks I had to interlock to bigger and bigger screens

oh yea predictions..
ring - 51 M
robots - (-35%)
ice princess - 14 M
pacifier - (-40%)
Hostage - (-50%)

The ring 2 - 54m
Ice princess- 10m

The Pacifier will have a very light drop after having to compete with Robots.

1. The Ring Two - $48.7 (NEW)
2. Robots - $21.8 (-39.5%)
3. The Pacifier - $12.6 (-31%)
4. Ice Princess - $9.3 (NEW)
5. Be Cool - $5.7 (-45%)
6. Hitch - $5.3 (-40%)

I didn't work that time. Not until the year after.

ahh my bad then :razz: It seems like just yesterday

NEW SHIT

The Ring Two MUST SEE MOVIE OF THE WEEK $56.7m - The Ring was one of those incredibly leggy runs and with everyone having at least seen it on video, I think $56m is possibly on the low side of what it could get. Plus its got Sissy Spacek going for it, and she's basically $30m by herself, if by $30m you mean $30, and by $ you mean turkish lira. And Simon Baker - we all know what a massive hit The Guardian was. Whatever happened to that show?

Ice Princess $6.3m - I have seen no ads for this film. Possibly because it hasn't yet been scheduled for release in my country. Still, death to this crappy teen-girl garbage. If enough of these bomb they'll stop making them and put there money into something decent, like zombie movies or state of the art porn. "Big things happen to those who dream big." What the hell's big about becoming a figure skater other than the size of your ass when you retire and you eat 24/7 to keep your mind off the fact that you devoted your life to sliding around on frozen water to impress a bunch of nimrods with scorecards displaying their respective IQs.

OLD SHIT
Robots $22.7m
The Pacifier $11.5m
Hitch $5.7m
Hostage $5.3m
Be Cool $5.0m
Million Dollar Baby $3.5m
Diary Of A Mad Black Woman $2.4m
Constantine $2.2m

I BET MY ASS
1. Ice Princess can't break $7m
2. Ice Princess is a piece of crap-infested crap with crap sauce and sprinkled in crap
3. Hostage drops under 50% when people come to their senses that Bruce Willis action films rock and must be seen immediately or he'll come around to your house beat you over the head with your own dog or spouse (possibly both if you have dog-affection issues)
4. The Ring Two does $50m minimum. See it or Samara will attack you with a double-team (accompanied of course by Bruce Willis, who may still have your dog to beat you with if he hasn't already eaten it and your children for lunch)

It's the MUST SEE MOVIE OF THE WEEK being shown on only 1 screen.. Go figure.. :laugh: Shouldn't it be opening up on more dude if it's that good??

To be fair BKB, that is one theater, and is, according to an employee, for exit polling. My local theater should be getting it on 3-4 screens, and I'll check about other theaters in the area.