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Maximus
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RogueCommander wrote: Because both were heavily hyped on the internet and were very different from anything seen before and like Sky Captain, Sin City will likely not make a large amount at the box office.
Thank you.
And, btw, Sky Captain kicked ass BJ :razz:
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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RogueCommander wrote: Because both were heavily hyped on the internet and were very different from anything seen before and like Sky Captain, Sin City will likely not make a large amount at the box office.
bleh sky captain is nothing like this film in anyway what so ever, even the style is different. Also every film that has a good shot at the box office is heavily hyped so that wont evect this film in anyway what so ever also, if people realy wanted to se sky captain it would have opened with more $$$, and its legs would not have been so bad. When did internet hype effect a films BO run :???:
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:13 am |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
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zach wrote: RogueCommander wrote: Because both were heavily hyped on the internet and were very different from anything seen before and like Sky Captain, Sin City will likely not make a large amount at the box office. Thank you. And, btw, Sky Captain kicked ass BJ :razz:
Sky Captain sucked Ass :razz:
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:14 am |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
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Sin City is a hard one to judge, for sure, because it can go either way. It's got things going for it, and things going against it, quality not withstanding. Stranger things have happened, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for these characters to really grip the moviegoers. It's not impossible that the "it" movie thing could happen here, where people are going because "it's the latest craze" and "everybody's seeing it".
Movies about Christ didn't make 370 million domestic dollars until last year, and it's not like people hadn't heard of him long before. Fan bases for Jesus didn't seem to care. TPOTC became the "in" thing to go see, and the BO blew away the R rated record.
As I said earlier Star Wars was seen as a strange movie, even by the cast, and was expected to flop because it was way too different for the audience that had never seen anything like it before. Sometimes, that's a good thing. Some people bitch about no originality, and when they get it, they don't bother seeing it because it's different. Go figure.
I do believe, if the quality is there, it's going to be successful. I just don't know how successful the audience will be willing to make it.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:34 am |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
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Maverikk wrote: Sin City is a hard one to judge, for sure, because it can go either way. It's got things going for it, and things going against it, quality not withstanding. Stranger things have happened, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for these characters to really grip the moviegoers. It's not impossible that the "it" movie thing could happen here, where people are going because "it's the latest craze" and "everybody's seeing it".
Movies about Christ didn't make 370 million domestic dollars until last year, and it's not like people hadn't heard of him long before. Fan bases for Jesus didn't seem to care. TPOTC became the "in" thing to go see, and the BO blew away the R rated record.
As I said earlier Star Wars was seen as a strange movie, even by the cast, and was expected to flop because it was way too different for the audience that had never seen anything like it before. Sometimes, that's a good thing. Some people bitch about no originality, and when they get it, they don't bother seeing it because it's different. Go figure.
I do believe, if the quality is there, it's going to be successful. I just don't know how successful the audience will be willing to make it.
I do 120m-150m :wink:
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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Maverikk wrote: Sin City is a hard one to judge, for sure, because it can go either way. It's got things going for it, and things going against it, quality not withstanding. Stranger things have happened, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for these characters to really grip the moviegoers. It's not impossible that the "it" movie thing could happen here, where people are going because "it's the latest craze" and "everybody's seeing it".
Movies about Christ didn't make 370 million domestic dollars until last year, and it's not like people hadn't heard of him long before. Fan bases for Jesus didn't seem to care. TPOTC became the "in" thing to go see, and the BO blew away the R rated record.
As I said earlier Star Wars was seen as a strange movie, even by the cast, and was expected to flop because it was way too different for the audience that had never seen anything like it before. Sometimes, that's a good thing. Some people bitch about no originality, and when they get it, they don't bother seeing it because it's different. Go figure.
I do believe, if the quality is there, it's going to be successful. I just don't know how successful the audience will be willing to make it.
100-120 Million BKB Style Mav.. :laugh: Boy, don't I feel foolish for that.. At least I can poke fun at myself for it..
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:39 am |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
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BKB_The_Man wrote: 100-120 Million BKB Style Mav.. :laugh: Boy, don't I feel foolish for that.. At least I can poke fun at myself for it..
lol...I'm glad that you said that would be a disappointment. I was snorting tea through my nose for days, but damnit, it was worth it. =D>
That thread belongs in the Hall of Shame. :razz:
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:46 am |
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bABA
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Sin City has the making of a cult hit.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:21 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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bABA wrote: Sin City has the making of a cult hit.
They never gross that much.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:31 am |
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Zingaling wrote: bABA wrote: Sin City has the making of a cult hit. They never gross that much.
Bull.
Bourne Franchise is a cult phenom.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:22 am |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
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sin city reminds me of the matrix.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:53 am |
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Jeff
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Many cult hits don't make a lot at the box office but they generally make double or triple their revenues on DVD/VHS sales.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:02 am |
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Maximus
Hot Fuss
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:46 am Posts: 8427 Location: floridaaa
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Whatever. I promise it won't do as well as you think. I learned from Sky Captain. You'll learn from this one.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:29 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
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zach wrote: Whatever. I promise it won't do as well as you think. I learned from Sky Captain. You'll learn from this one.
why must you .. promise
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:35 pm |
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Joker's Thug #3
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RogueCommander wrote: Because both were heavily hyped on the internet and were very different from anything seen before and like Sky Captain, Sin City will likely not make a large amount at the box office. Actually I dont think so, Sky Captain was getting ragged on quite a bit before release, everyone is loving Sin City though. All I know is that it'll most likely do much better then Sky Captain.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:36 pm |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
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Killuminati510 wrote: RogueCommander wrote: Because both were heavily hyped on the internet and were very different from anything seen before and like Sky Captain, Sin City will likely not make a large amount at the box office. Actually I dont think so, Sky Captain was getting ragged on quite a bit before release, everyone is loving Sin City though. All I know is that it'll most likely do much better then Sky Captain.
I agree with that. Sky Captain received a lot of internet bashing before it ever came out. Sin City isn't getting bashed very much at all , here , and elsewhere on the net. BKB tried , but it didn't work out for him... :laugh:
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:41 pm |
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MovieDude
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Dudes, Sky Captain and Sin City aren't the same thing. Sky Captain's ads were full of effects but completely empty, and Sin City is having a 30+ million ad campaign. I saw two one minute ads for it last night alone! And people were talking about it too at school, and it was nothing but talking about how awesome it looks.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:19 pm |
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bABA
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:26 pm |
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DP07
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Nice article.
The main thing I disagree with is the legs. The two sets of numbers you threw out, 23/70 and 30/100, would require multipliers of 3.04 and 3.33 respectively. Films like this tend to have weak legs especially with lower weekday numbers at this time of the year. Kill Bill is an exception, but even that film barely got to a multiplier of 3. Odds are this film will have a multiplier of around 2.5 if not less.
BTW, my prediction is 26m/63m.
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:31 pm |
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bABA
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DP07 wrote: Nice article.
The main thing I disagree with is the legs. The two sets of numbers you threw out, 23/70 and 30/100, would require multipliers of 3.04 and 3.33 respectively. Films like this tend to have weak legs especially with lower weekday numbers at this time of the year. Kill Bill is an exception, but even that film barely got to a multiplier of 3. Odds are this film will have a multiplier of around 2.5 if not less.
BTW, my prediction is 26m/63m.
I kinda think Mav has a point though. I believe its based on the fact that it will end up being well received .... and sort of generate a moderate buzz to keep it going till the big guys move on.
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:38 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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BTW, I don't think comparisons to Sky Captain are fair. The reason that film bombed was because the whole 1940s aspect didn't appeal to mainstream audiences, especially younger audiences. That, combined with a PG rating, caused it to look extremely lame, and it hardly attracted any teens or young adults. The only audience that really wanted to see it was to be found on internet message boards like this one. However, if that audience had any clout any number of indie films would be blockbusters.
Sin City is far edgier, and its core audience will be males 17-30. The "coolness" factor is about 100 times greater.
There is a possibility that it will bomb, but I believe it will largely be able to tap into the audiences that made Kill Bill, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, and Pulp Fiction hits.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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bABA wrote: DP07 wrote: Nice article.
The main thing I disagree with is the legs. The two sets of numbers you threw out, 23/70 and 30/100, would require multipliers of 3.04 and 3.33 respectively. Films like this tend to have weak legs especially with lower weekday numbers at this time of the year. Kill Bill is an exception, but even that film barely got to a multiplier of 3. Odds are this film will have a multiplier of around 2.5 if not less.
BTW, my prediction is 26m/63m. I kinda think Mav has a point though. I believe its based on the fact that it will end up being well received .... and sort of generate a moderate buzz to keep it going till the big guys move on.
Many action films like this have been well received only to drop heavily in the second weekend. Only a few that are well received are able to get multipliers above 2.5 outside of the summer and December. It's only in the very rare cases that they can reach a multiplier of 3.
It wouldn't just have to be well received, it would need excellent WOM.
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Maverikk
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It happened...It got picked up by the #1 Sin City site on the net! :Jump:
I hope they enjoy it. and that was a big surprise for me. A very happy surprise! It's all down hill from here. \:D/
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The Dark Shape
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Judging from the trailers, TV spots, etc., and general reaction I've seen from normal people around me (i.e., the folks who don't go to Aint-It-Cool-News and have never heard of BoxOfficeMojo), my prediction is...
24/57
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