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billybobwashere
He didn't look busy?!
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Waker of Winds wrote: Saw it again, hated it even more.
And Ps. if you want to attack my opinion like the snobs that did before, fuck off. i have no reason to attack you... you're just totally missing out.
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Waker of Winds wrote: Saw it again, hated it even more.
And Ps. if you want to attack my opinion like the snobs that did before, fuck off. If you didn't want to be attacked for your (misguided, idiotic, wrong... pick your adjective) opinion, why would you even post that?
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6212 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Wow, you're all (except for Billy of course) a bunch of intolerant, narrow-minded people aren't you? You just can't fanthom that someone might have a different opinion to yours, so you call that person a shit, you say his opinion is idiotic.
Snack - So predictable.
Trixster - opinions are subjective, there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right". Of course I don't expect any of you to understand that.
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Barrabás
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Rorschach wrote: I don't understand how you can hate 2001 more after a repeat viewing. I can understand hating it after one time. And I can understand still hating it after a second time. But hating it more after a 2nd time? No way. It bores me to death.
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 11019
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
woah
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Waker of Winds wrote: Trixster - opinions are subjective, there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right". Of course I don't expect any of you to understand that.
teehee Pol Pot will be so happy! You see kid if you dislike something its quite alright, when you tell everyone who does like it that they are sheep or to fuck off then I'm afraid you are leaving yourself open.
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:06 pm |
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Timayd
The 5th B-Sharp
Joined: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:48 am Posts: 1506
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Waker of Winds wrote: Of course I don't expect any of you to understand that. So your complaining about people attacking about the fact you probably didn't understand 2001 and you come back with that?\ Damn glass houses!
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6212 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
I haven't told everyone they're a sheep. I said "I ain't no sheep", which (and I explained this) meant that I (ME, not everyone else, I don't care about everyone else) will not like this film just because everyone else does. And I clearly said fuck off to those who are planning on attacking me for my opinion, not to everyone who likes this movie.
And calling me kid won't accomplish anything.
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
But you are a kid your like 16 I think. You are very defensive I must say!
Tell you what don't want people to "attack" you then next time add something constructive to the debate other then throwing aggressive words around as a shield.
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:21 pm |
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6212 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
I apologize if anyone was offended by what I said. All I want is my opinion, and myself, to be respected.
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billybobwashere
He didn't look busy?!
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:59 pm Posts: 4308
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
I don't think 2001 is a movie that everyone can enjoy, so a few people hating it, even on a movie board (where tastes tend to be better) doesn't surprise me. When it came out, it received its fair share of hate, and there are loads of people who expect different things out of a movie than what this offers. Because really, it has some of the most anti-movie-structured storytelling of any movie I've seen. The changing of who the main characters are, wooden acting, weird editing, very little dialogue, the fact that few answers are offered to the many questions asked... I absolutely adore the way Kubrick handled all of these things, but I understand why some people would be left scratching their heads at what they watched.
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Jesus Christ
INRI
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:40 am Posts: 666 Location: Bethlehem, Nazareth, The Cross, Heaven, Earth
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Waker of Winds wrote: [...] there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right". So you are indeed Lee Harvey Oswald's son?
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Cabuche wrote: Waker of Winds wrote: [...] there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right". So you are indeed Lee Harvey Oswald's son? Being a new member, you're probably not aware that the "Everyone's A Critic" forum is for reviewing films, not other long time KJ members...
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Jesus Christ
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Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:40 am Posts: 666 Location: Bethlehem, Nazareth, The Cross, Heaven, Earth
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Bradley Witherberry wrote: Cabuche wrote: Waker of Winds wrote: [...] there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right". So you are indeed Lee Harvey Oswald's son? Being a new member, you're probably not aware that the "Everyone's A Critic" forum is for reviewing films, not other long time KJ members... Even as a new member I am able to read. And after all, this forum for discussion, isn't it?
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Cabuche wrote: Waker of Winds wrote: [...] there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right". So you are indeed Lee Harvey Oswald's son? When it comes to an opinion of a form of art, yes, there is no such thing as right or wrong.
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:23 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 11019
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
dp & wakerofwinds 4eva
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Barrabás
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
...what?
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Waker of Winds wrote: Cabuche wrote: Waker of Winds wrote: [...] there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right". So you are indeed Lee Harvey Oswald's son? When it comes to an opinion of a form of art, yes, there is no such thing as right or wrong. Then it is my opinion that you are a retarded, moronic, obnoxious fool. It's just my opinion! You can't criticize me for that!
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 38886
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
The answer is movies serve different purposes. IMO, is 2001 greater than Iron Man in artistic/creative relevance? YES. Is it more entertaining? NO. There's no harm in thinking Iron Man > 2001 because the second is boring, and thus valuing entertainment over artistic value. Some think 2001 is more entertaining than Iron Man (a minority)... but the entertainment reaction is subjective and a total right brain/non analytical function anyways. Which is true for judging film in general, how a film sits and connects with a person, how much their personal unique tastes are satisfied, etc. is HUGE. This unique emotional connection is essential in judging art. To think otherwise is simply wrong from a psychological standpoint
I judge films on an artistic/directoral/etc. perspective, there's things for me that make movies good and bad, part of that entertainment value. But the trick is that's according to me, not everyone. Lots of people here don't like Funny Games... IMO it's a great piece of film, but I suppose it just doesn't sit with their taste of the goods and bads of film like it does mine
The problem with the snob club, is that not only do they claim a definitive good/bad scale for film, but then state THEY are the authorities of it, because they've seen more old and foreign films. In reality they're just the loudest voices in the room. Btw Mr. Price has seen more old and foreign movies than anyone here and he has 'mainstream taste'. What do you make of that? He's just 'wrong'? According to what criteria?
I'm not turning into another Doubt thread btw. I promise. This will be my last post on the subject.
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Tyler
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Well, this forum has really turned into a mass of idiocy lately, has it not?
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Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:37 am |
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snack
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Shack has spent too much time reading DP posts.
and 2001 is far more entertaining than Iron Man, which is barely entertaining.
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Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:11 am |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 38886
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
The world needs more DP07's! Anyways I like debate and contrasting theories and perspectives on stuff a lot... so forgive me if I can't help myself when oppurtunities arise...
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Tyler
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
I don't see what's not so entertaining about 2001. Not all entertainment comes from the visceral. But if we're talking visceral thrills, compare say TDK vs. 2001, not Iron Man, which dragged and would have been pretty boring without the lead.
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6212 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey
trixster wrote: Waker of Winds wrote: Cabuche wrote: Waker of Winds wrote: [...] there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right". So you are indeed Lee Harvey Oswald's son? When it comes to an opinion of a form of art, yes, there is no such thing as right or wrong. Then it is my opinion that you are a retarded, moronic, obnoxious fool. It's just my opinion! You can't criticize me for that! I am not a form of art.
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
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