The 'Lost' Thread (Season 1)
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AgentX
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From the beginning I thought they (Boone and Shannon) were in a relationship, so I'm glad my initial feelings were not totally offbase, and actually less creepy than I thought. Because I thought they were blood brother and sister, that would have been weird. er.
I really enjoyed this episode, because we got to see more of the mysterious island in play. With the compass mystery, and all the hallucenations with Boone. Those had me thinking they were real until Shannon died, that would have been advertised. I actually found myself sorry that she was 'dead' I would have missed her, she iss getting interesting. Boone has got some perma-vulcan eyebrows going on, its weird, but at least we know a little bit more of his weird backstory and his friendship with Locke is growing - and all it took was a blow with a blunt object to the back of Boone's head. I do wonder how many episodes they are going to stare at that hatch, I don't think either of them are Michealangelo so lets hope they resolve that mystery relatively quickly. Locke - still weird, but cool.
Also liked the fact that we saw more of Sun and Jin, very interesting pair, I've always loved Sun, but now Jin seems cool too. The day is going to come when everyone will know Sun's secret and Jin will have her to translate what he says, I'm just wondering how long that will take to happen. I really liked the Sun/Kate interaction, and hope they get together more...not that way...although...
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:02 pm |
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Raffiki
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Ya, even though this episode didn't accomplish too much, it was great because it started building on the interactoons between different peopl and just building on the island itself.
Just cuz Boone was hullucinating doesn't mean what Sayid was telling Jack was in his hullucination.
That was interesting though.
I have always liked Shannon. And recently, she has been a VERY interesting character. Something about her character and her acting seems like there is more at play than what we may see and I hope they don't waste that...
So anyone think the island moster in a total figment of their imagination or just isn't real?
Lost is now finally entering territory in which they have so many characters and so many different relationships that they have to deal with a few things at a time without devlepoing others too much. It's quite ingenious how they have a focus on each character per episode and their backstory while others are minor to their story in that episode.... but it seems like we're getting a braodly planned out idea and only slowly they will start getting things going.
Wouldn't it be awesome if they had say a huge story spanning 3-4 episodes with a real cool way of telling it...
Sort of how Alias does it, but this one would be out of necessity and not just enhancing the episode. It would something big that happens on the island but since there are som many characters you focus only on a few per episode and what happened to them during that time, meanwhile you see other characters doing stuff that may not make sense. Then with each episode, the time shifts back and you see what happened to a few more characters and everything slowly starts falling into place. It might get too reduntant with 4, but myabe a 3-episode piece like that would work!
Just a thought!! :wink:
I love the way they are just adding all these little details and small storylines like the compass cuz you now somewhere down the line, alot of loose ends will come together and it will make for some awesome revelations!
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:18 am |
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A. G.
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Not one of my favorite episodes, I thought the whole Boone/Locke arc was a copout, and the episode made me like both Boone and Shannon less. After the flashbacks I wasn't really concerned about either of them getting eaten by the monster too much heh. I did like the parts with the Koreans, Hurley and Kate, although Jack being so friendly to Kate and even looking like he was falling in love after she's admitted being a killer last week was a little unrealistic.
Here's a question, remember when Boone was in the Aussie police station and the cops dragged in that rowdy man? If anyone has that on tape, play it back -- isn't that Sawyer?
And one other little thing. They've said several times that there are around 46 people there, but we only ever see maybe 12 or so. I realize they can't have a story arc and a good actor for each of 46 but they need a few more short scenes in episodes just at least showing from a distance what most of the rest of them are doing and how they feel about the situation.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:50 pm |
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AgentX
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Archie Gates wrote: Here's a question, remember when Boone was in the Aussie police station and the cops dragged in that rowdy man? If anyone has that on tape, play it back -- isn't that Sawyer?
Yes, that was Sawyer. It was a nice touch I thought.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:54 pm |
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A. G.
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Yeah it was. And another nice touch was on Alias afterwards, at her party, you can hear "Who all everybody", Charlie from Lost's song he sang in his flashback episode.
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:17 pm |
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matatonio
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i missed it ](*,) i cant believe i forgot!!!
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:06 pm |
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AgentX
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Another strong episode tonight. Glad we finally got to know how Michael and Walter got to this point. I have to say that car accident took me by surprise. I wasn't expecting that. I also wasn't expecting to be so Pro-Locke in this episode. I thought Michael's reaction to Walt's friendship with Locke was a bit much, but not completely out of line given his history with his son. I do want to know more of Walter's strange power though - that could be a really interesting story line to see developed.
What else, Sawyer is once again the bad guy, only not really. Charlie wants to search for Claire some more but has an idea as to her location - yep still hate you. Sayed, Jack, Kate, Jin, Sun, Hurley - Just don't die. Well Kate maybe. Boone certainly seems to be letting go of his attachment with Shannon...allbeit in a cold way. I guess that's healthy. Shannon, I'm torn between considering her a evil manipulative bitch and an unmotivated princess.
What exactly has happened with the mystery surrounding the porthole Boone and Locke found? That's quickly been shoved aside only to be remembered when some one asks for food. I do hope they expound on that further as I find it interesting. Also liked the revelation of Claire coming out of the forest at the end. I thought it was going to be another monster or they would just end the show with Boone and Locke's faces.
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:12 pm |
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I like the homage to all things Scooby. Whenever the Polar Bear is around, Walt's dog is nowhere to be found.
I wonder where they will go with Walt's power. It's very similar to Twilight Zone's "It's a Good Life," you better think good thoughts around Anthony Fremont or else bad things will happen.
Good to see Claire back, I wonder if Ethan took the baby out.
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:32 pm |
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Libs
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Grr....I forgot that ABC lets this show run until 9:03 and shut the tape off at 9:00.
So, Claire comes out of the woods? Awesome.
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:15 am |
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Appy
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I just can't seem to get into it. I just don't like it.
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:23 am |
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AgentX
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Just three weeks of reruns and then we get a new episode! I hate these long breaks with shows I have grown to really enjoy.
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:54 am |
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Raffiki
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damn ANOTHER 3 week new episode hiatus when there is a Claire story on the verge???
the episode was pretty strong, the two characters I least liked I actually finally understand.
Does everyone really believe that Walt has special powers?
Does anyone even think that it's the dog that has the powers, that the dog actually transformed into the polar bear?
there's something about the polar bear that I'm not getting.... how come there was a comic with a polar bear in it? Does the dog morph into or summon things he sees?
Claire comin out at the end was great and I guess we can assume she wasn't carrying the baby anymore.
This is turning into a serious sci-fi show and am amazed at its ratings (or we'll see after tomorrow).
The onyl complaint is that they're not doing enough in one episode and the backstory is actually keeping alot of actual storyline to develop.... sometimes I wonder if a a few episodes with no backstory and no character focus would do us good, so they can just develop current stories, or they should have a few 90 minute or 2 hour episodes!
Ya, they do seem to be stalling that metal door and I have a feeling they are keeping it till May sweeps/finale. Was it just me or were there more than the normal amount of commercial break within the 2 hours of Lost and Alias??
It's getting a bit weird, letting LOST run into around 9:05 here in LA. Some would think that might be a problem but since J.J. does both shows, I guess it's alright.... why don't they just do 1.5 hours each show :wink:
I hope Idol doesn't do too much damage!
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:08 am |
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AgentX
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The next new episode will air February 9th, so not quite three weeks of reruns, but three weeks until we get the new episode: "Homecoming"
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:14 am |
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Cotton
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Looks like it held up pretty well against American Idol.
11.8 rating
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:39 pm |
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A. G.
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Pretty good episode, Michael and Walt's back story was well done. I wasn't very surprised about Claire since I always viewed her kidnapping in a production mechanics sense - they couldn't have a baby as part of the day to day life of the show, it would be a real problem, suck attention from almost everything else and create a situation where they couldn't create much danger without us fearing a baby was going to be killed by accident or on purpose. So they whisked Claire off, had Captain Deus Ex Machina take the baby and lobbed Claire back into the clearing. That's alright with me though, they basically had to do it, there were few other choices.
As to the metal hatch thing, my take was the writers are stalling because either they haven't figured out what they want it to mean or they changed their mind or something.
Very interesting point above about the dog having powers, it's probably not the case but it's a neat angle that I'd never have considered.
It was a little unlikely that the box of letters survived the crash and that Michael even found it after luggage was strewn all over. I had expected him instead to bond with his son by drawing a comic book. But it was still a good ending, all in all, pretty cute.
Here's something I noticed about the back stories while watching this episode and I would like you guys and gals opinions on if this is coincidence or means something: most of the characters had felt estranged or mistreated by someone close to them shortly before the trip and crash that led to them being on the island.
I might be using the wrong words to describe it but they do seem to have all something in common with their backstories, issues dealing with people very close to them right before they took the trip. Either it's lazy writing which I doubt or it is intended to mean something.
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:22 am |
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Raffiki
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I disagree on the hatch thing Archie mentioned.
I think they know where they want to go with the hatch but are saving it for sweeps. First I thought they'd leave it for the end, but now I'm thinking instead of May, they'll use it for Febriary sweeps, they've done a great job of delaying it.
I think the dog being the polar bear is truer than most think. The dog is lost everytime the polar bear comes out!
I dunno, something weird is going on and I can't make the connection.
I totally disagree and don't even understand what u mean with Claire's pregnancy.... why wouldn't they have it as a normal story? The only reason they couldn't or wouldn't is maybe because she already had a back story and another one so quick to accomodate the obvious focus on her in the birthing episode wouldn't flow well.
As far as whisking her off.... that has WAAAAY more to do with the story than you think. The baby is an intehral part of this show and the island taking was not an excuse not to show her actually having birth. there is no way something that big can be done for a simple reason of not showing it because it wouldn't flow with the show, which I disagree with in the first place. I think it would have made a great episode if she actually had the birth with everyone.
I can't wait we have to wait three weeks, and might I note, though it's almost given she already had the baby or it was taken from her, they were careful not to fully reveal that she wasn't 'not pregnant' yet! I rewinded it and watched that scene, you really can't tell, especially cuz she's not actually pregnant in real life and they could do anything they want with that!
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:15 am |
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AgentX
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Archie Gates wrote: I wasn't very surprised about Claire since I always viewed her kidnapping in a production mechanics sense - they couldn't have a baby as part of the day to day life of the show, it would be a real problem, suck attention from almost everything else and create a situation where they couldn't create much danger without us fearing a baby was going to be killed by accident or on purpose. So they whisked Claire off, had Captain Deus Ex Machina take the baby and lobbed Claire back into the clearing. That's alright with me though, they basically had to do it, there were few other choices.
I agree with this. Originally I had thought they would save the baby being born for a sweeps period then shortly die afterwards. Because I don't see how a newborn would be able to survive on the island. I don't know how great the baby would impact the island as I think they have done a good job of not making one thing a focus of the series, but I would worry that with a live baby it would greatly limit the stuff Claire could do. Sure, pre-Ethan she was defined by the baby, but also she wasn't that interesting (IMHO) so perhaps now she can get some character.
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:25 am |
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Raffiki
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Dont be so sure she isn't pregnant.
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:25 pm |
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AgentX
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Yeah, that possibility still exists. Although I can't imagine her being gone all that time, and nothing of consequence happen to her or her baby. It will be interesting to hear of her adventures upon the series' return from reruns.
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:28 pm |
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Miruvor
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 Oz to get 'Lost' this Thursday!!
Oz to get 'Lost' this Thursday!!
Can it's NZ debut be far behind?
http://www.smh.com.au/news/TV--Radio/Fl ... click=true
Michael Idato visits the set of Lost, the hit drama series that starts with a bang and just gets better.
In the explosive opening scenes of the American drama series Lost, a passenger jet crashes on a remote Pacific island, off-course and off-radar, leaving 48 survivors amid the smoking wreckage with little hope of rescue.
They realise they are at the mercy of the elements and an unseen menace: a "monster" roaming the nearby jungle whose precise nature has fans, and the internet, humming with theories.
By episode six, two survivors are dead and another is badly beaten. The rest have splintered into two groups, and someone is sabotaging their chances of rescue.
It quickly became clear to actor Matthew Fox, who plays the reluctant hero, Jack, that the real threat to their survival was not what lay waiting in the jungle, but the darkness within themselves. "There is nothing to fear but fear itself," Fox says.
His co-star, Maggie Grace, agrees. "The island is this great leveller. It really allows us to reinvent ourselves," she says. "Some people may need to do that more than others. Some people don't want to get off the island because what we have become here is preferable to what we have to go back to."
Lost begins on Seven on Thursday at 8.30pm.
See whole article at link above
Wow....soon NZ I hope!! [-o<
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:23 pm |
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The preview for next week's new episode was reeally good! It looked like they were all working together against Ethan, even Sawyer! But it looks like someone dies...
Who does everyone think is in that bag? I think it might be Claire...
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:06 pm |
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A. G.
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So, while we wait for new episodes, a question or two for you all.
1. Do you think the finale will involve the killing off of a cast member?
2. If so, who?
I say
1. Probably yes, better than 50% chance.
2. Locke would make the most sense because he's become so invaluable to their survival. For the same reason Rowling killed off a certain character in HP5, get rid of the reassuring father figure type in order to make things scarier.
I hope they don't do it though, I like the Locke character and would like him to stick around. In fact I can't think of any character I wouldn't miss a lot. (Right now I can sense Agentx preparing to type "Kill Charlie!" lmao)
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:18 am |
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Anonymous
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The answer to your question is yes, and it's 100% certain. In fact, you can expect several characters not to return next season.
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:24 am |
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A. G.
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loyalfromlondon wrote: The answer to your question is yes, and it's 100% certain. In fact, you can expect several characters not to return next season.
Isn't that kind of dumb though? I mean they have a limited cast as it is, and no real way of replenishing the cast. Sure they could run across a few people who were stranded there from before but the core of the story is the surviving of that original group of the plane crash, and reducing their numbers is something I think might create problems if they do it too much.
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:00 pm |
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Archie Gates wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: The answer to your question is yes, and it's 100% certain. In fact, you can expect several characters not to return next season. Isn't that kind of dumb though? I mean they have a limited cast as it is, and no real way of replenishing the cast. Sure they could run across a few people who were stranded there from before but the core of the story is the surviving of that original group of the plane crash, and reducing their numbers is something I think might create problems if they do it too much.
Just like Ethan, they could easily move an unknown castaway towards the front by casting a known face.
With monsters and traitors and the like, it's unrealistic to not have deaths IMO.
You can't kill everyone but a few here and there, I don't see the problem.
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