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Joker's Thug #3
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mansonmyers wrote: So elektra is like; $45M-$55M, + $25M ads, Around $70M.
Doubt that, its budget is probably more around 60mil and Marketing these days is about 30mil average, this being somewhat of a blockbuster movie and seeing as commercials are on every minute for it, i'd say the Marketing was close to 40mil
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:56 pm |
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Libs
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*Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1500 theatres.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:20 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres.
I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:22 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15553 Location: Everywhere
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: :shock: wft?
At least that is a great number for IGC. I knew Elektra'd have a REALLY high ratio 
Several options lie before me:
A) Deny reality, lose my mind.
B) Try to change the subject to the war in Iraq, or Lindsey Lohan (depends on audience).
C) Start insulting people.
D) Eat the crow pie.
Tough choice 
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:27 pm |
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: :shock: wft?
At least that is a great number for IGC. I knew Elektra'd have a REALLY high ratio  Several options lie before me: A) Deny reality, lose my mind. B) Try to change the subject to the war in Iraq, or Lindsey Lohan (depends on audience). C) Start insulting people. D) Eat the crow pie. Tough choice 
Eat Lindsay Lohan!
Ok, I hope that's not taken the wrong way. [-o< \:D/
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:29 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15553 Location: Everywhere
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BJ wrote: Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres. I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring.
I sure hope it expands better then Bridget Jones 2 or Closer. Well, at least it has better wom then either of those.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:35 pm |
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torrino
College Boy T
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:52 pm Posts: 16020
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BJ wrote: Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres. I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring.
Heh, there you go again! BJ - see the film next week. Maybe then it'll happen. Otherwise, don't expect too much from us Americans
Libs and DP07, are either of you seeing it anytime soon?
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:43 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Killuminati510 wrote: mansonmyers wrote: So elektra is like; $45M-$55M, + $25M ads, Around $70M.
Doubt that, its budget is probably more around 60mil and Marketing these days is about 30mil average, this being somewhat of a blockbuster movie and seeing as commercials are on every minute for it, i'd say the Marketing was close to 40mil
For 2003 the average among major studio films was 39m in marketing. 2004 was probably higher, but the figures have not been released yet. 2005 should be higher yet. I would think that Elektra would be at least 45m, it's above average, and probably over 50m. It's a bomb. It may do well on DVD though. Riddick, Walking Tall, The Rundown and a few others were all huge hits on DVD that earned about double as much as in theaters (I mean 100m+, of which about 70% goes to the studio. Do the math, Riddick might have gotten 30m from theaters, but DVD will probably end up being about 80m). However, even so, it's not easy to see how Elektra will turn a profit.
BTW, I could find the link for the 2003 39m average if you want.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:43 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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torrino wrote: BJ wrote: Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres. I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring. Heh, there you go again! BJ - see the film next week. Maybe then it'll happen. Otherwise, don't expect too much from us Americans  Libs and DP07, are either of you seeing it anytime soon?
I plan to see it tonight. 
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:45 pm |
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torrino
College Boy T
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DP07 wrote: torrino wrote: BJ wrote: Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres. I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring. Heh, there you go again! BJ - see the film next week. Maybe then it'll happen. Otherwise, don't expect too much from us Americans  Libs and DP07, are either of you seeing it anytime soon? I plan to see it tonight. 
Bueno!
It'd be on my Top 5, but I think I'm just going to push it two days to '05. I kinda like having Shaun of the Dead on the list anyways, heh. Enjoy it but don't expect to laugh much.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:49 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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DP07 wrote: BJ wrote: Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres. I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring. I sure hope it expands better then Bridget Jones 2 or Closer. Well, at least it has better wom then either of those.
I think it will increase atleast 500 theaters it seems this may be the largest opening for a film that is in less than 1600 screens, the average is better than most also this film could easily hit 100m Ive looked at many films in the last hour and this ones opening wknd in the amount of theaters its in screams for 100m easy :wink:
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:50 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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TonyMontana wrote: That's certainly yucky for Elektra! #-o
Perhaps Oscar buzz will help Elektra out (as it will for Fat Albert)?
Not this year, but I'm willing to bet Garner's the early frontrunner for Best Actress next year.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:55 pm |
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Animosity Reigns
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:41 pm Posts: 1777 Location: The Dirty South
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Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1500 theatres.
heh..
*told* everyone Coach would be huge this weekend :razz:
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:00 pm |
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Spidey
Teenage Dream
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:13 pm Posts: 10678
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This is an unusual weekend. The underdogs came out on top over the the big films with saturated releases!
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:03 pm |
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Spidey
Teenage Dream
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:13 pm Posts: 10678
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Also, why aren't the Box Office Mojo numbers up yet? Isn't this the latest they have not posted them. Where are they???
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:04 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
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In Good Company:
Fri: 4.54m
Sat: 6.85m +51%
Sun: 4.45m -35%
Wknd: 15.84m
Monday: 2.67m -40%
4-Day Wknd: 18.51m
2nd Wknd: 20.91m +32% ( +800 theaters )
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:16 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: :shock: wft?
At least that is a great number for IGC. I knew Elektra'd have a REALLY high ratio  Several options lie before me: A) Deny reality, lose my mind. B) Try to change the subject to the war in Iraq, or Lindsey Lohan (depends on audience). C) Start insulting people. D) Eat the crow pie. Tough choice 
You want the rests of my Meet the Fockers crow pie?
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:23 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15553 Location: Everywhere
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BJ wrote: DP07 wrote: BJ wrote: Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres. I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring. I sure hope it expands better then Bridget Jones 2 or Closer. Well, at least it has better wom then either of those. I think it will increase atleast 500 theaters it seems this may be the largest opening for a film that is in less than 1600 screens, the average is better than most also this film could easily hit 100m Ive looked at many films in the last hour and this ones opening wknd in the amount of theaters its in screams for 100m easy :wink:
Except you have to remember that on the "old days" legs were better. Even with an expansion, a multiplier of over 7 is extraordinarily difficult these days for any film not released in late December.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:30 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: :shock: wft?
At least that is a great number for IGC. I knew Elektra'd have a REALLY high ratio  Several options lie before me: A) Deny reality, lose my mind. B) Try to change the subject to the war in Iraq, or Lindsey Lohan (depends on audience). C) Start insulting people. D) Eat the crow pie. Tough choice  You want the rests of my Meet the Fockers crow pie?
You know how much MovieDude has already served me for Coach Carter and Elektra? :wink:
I think I'll pass, thank you.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:35 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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DP07 wrote: BJ wrote: DP07 wrote: BJ wrote: Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres. I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring. I sure hope it expands better then Bridget Jones 2 or Closer. Well, at least it has better wom then either of those. I think it will increase atleast 500 theaters it seems this may be the largest opening for a film that is in less than 1600 screens, the average is better than most also this film could easily hit 100m Ive looked at many films in the last hour and this ones opening wknd in the amount of theaters its in screams for 100m easy :wink: Except you have to remember that on the "old days" legs were better. Even with an expansion, a multiplier of over 7 is extraordinarily difficult these days for any film not released in late December.
Especially considering that it's the time when oscar hopefuls will start taking over (i.e. Million Dollar Baby, Sideways, The Aviator, Hotel Rwanda) with other films that don't have some definite appeal being rather forgotten. It will have good legs, but I don't see it going beyond $75 million.
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:36 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
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DP07 wrote: BJ wrote: DP07 wrote: BJ wrote: Libs wrote: *Told* everyone In Good Company would get that much, even with 1565 theatres. I hope that it can Increase to 20m+ next wknd it would be cool to see this film perform like the ring. I sure hope it expands better then Bridget Jones 2 or Closer. Well, at least it has better wom then either of those. I think it will increase atleast 500 theaters it seems this may be the largest opening for a film that is in less than 1600 screens, the average is better than most also this film could easily hit 100m Ive looked at many films in the last hour and this ones opening wknd in the amount of theaters its in screams for 100m easy :wink: Except you have to remember that on the "old days" legs were better. Even with an expansion, a multiplier of over 7 is extraordinarily difficult these days for any film not released in late December.
thats another reason that the theater expantion was desined :wink: its going to open over 15m in less than 2000 theaters thats hard enough to do these days. Its going to expand into over 2000 theaters next wknd I think and expantion in the 800 theater to 1000 theater range should be expected. As for the legs, great WOM is all this film needs for legs, I suspect that this will be the tipe of film that performs well off the great WOM its getting :wink: The Ring came out in 02 to 15m in 400 400 more theaters thats a big difference considering there opening with the same amount of money. The Ring had a 650 theater seconmd wknd boost in 02 giving a 22% or 23% increase over the wknd before. I think this film will out perform The Ring once again next wknd it will get a bigger boost in theaters causing its increase to be on a larger scale. 20m is not out of the question, and I think it will happen. The Ring made it to 100m in 5 week only 5 I think this film can do it in the same amount of time if give or take a week. This film is out performing the competition and the older films I trhink that will continue :wink:
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:43 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: :shock: wft?
At least that is a great number for IGC. I knew Elektra'd have a REALLY high ratio  Several options lie before me: A) Deny reality, lose my mind. B) Try to change the subject to the war in Iraq, or Lindsey Lohan (depends on audience). C) Start insulting people. D) Eat the crow pie. Tough choice  You want the rests of my Meet the Fockers crow pie? You know how much MovieDude has already served me for Coach Carter and Elektra? :wink: I think I'll pass, thank you.
For lowballing or highballing CC?
*chewing on the National Treasure crow pie*
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:07 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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Too much talk on pie on this page. 
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:11 pm |
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Samweis Gamdschie
Cream of the Crop
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: :shock: wft?
At least that is a great number for IGC. I knew Elektra'd have a REALLY high ratio  Several options lie before me: A) Deny reality, lose my mind. B) Try to change the subject to the war in Iraq, or Lindsey Lohan (depends on audience). C) Start insulting people. D) Eat the crow pie. Tough choice  You want the rests of my Meet the Fockers crow pie? You know how much MovieDude has already served me for Coach Carter and Elektra? :wink: I think I'll pass, thank you. For lowballing or highballing CC? *chewing on the National Treasure crow pie*
LOL, I never had to eat crow pie... hehe...
I predicted The Polar Express would make $165m and its at $160m now! Moreover, I predicted $505m for LotR:Rotk and look at it ... it grossed... well...  :-$ 
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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Zingaling wrote: Too much talk on pie on this page. 
You are hungry?
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