I'm aiming for a 6m premiere, and to rate 4m weekly.


if this succeeds, do u think Melrose Place 2.0 will be around the corner.

Smallville is still the top scripted show for the network. It usually pulls in a little over 4 mil.

It's sad that these numbers would be acceptable. Expectations are so low for The CW now. I think it could make an even bigger splash. It's sink or swim time for the network and the suits know it.

Gossip Girl premiered to 3 million or so.

And continued to trickle down from there as season 1 rolled on. It might just at the top of the list of shows everyone talks about and no one watches. Hope it's fortunes change this season.

GG did well towards the end. its amazing Veronica Mars got cancelled for the exactly the same ratings it gets.

People watch it, just not in the conventional way. The bulk of its audience primarily watches the show online or on DVR. I have a feeling the numbers are going to be up for it this season though.

And 90210 could definitely do it. It feels like the most hyped show of the fall aside from Fringe.

Unfortunately advertisers still go for convention the majority of the time, so they need first runs to pull in stronger ratings. Season 1 of Dawson's Creek averaged 6.6m. Gossip Girl averaged 2.35m its first season. I wish it luck, I really do, but it has an uphill battle at the moment. Lets hope the heavy promotion and 90210 hype pay off.

I know! It pisses me off.

And 90210 has a chance. It will probably debut solidly, but I don't think it will keep great ratings. It will probably average under 4 Million each week.

Probably. Even if it debuts huge it's not likely to keep the ratings.

GG will fall to under 3 million just like it was pulling during the whole previous season with only season premiere and season finale exceeding that number. I feel that 90210 will float above 3 million (once it stabilizes) for the whole season.

GOSSIP GIRL might dip to 3 Million viewers, which would be great. Obviously it will decline, but we'll have to see how much. It should at least be able to keep at 2.8 Million, which is better than the Season 1 average.

Give it a few more weeks and its ratings will drop below America's Top Model. These nostalgic shows always have high debuts but huge drop offs in the following weeks. It surely didnt help Bionic Woman

Also, American Gladiators.

I expect Knight Rider not to last as well. I hope so anyway.

Well, it debuted below America's Next Top Model, so it didn't need a few weeks .

Dang, if that was right and its ratings being below Smallville too, I dont think the show will even last one season considering it will experience drop offs in the upcoming weeks and the hefty salaries they gave to the old returning stars

All two of them? I wouldn't call it hefty either. I think they are getting $40k an episode or something like that.

Guess you were wrong. ANTM basically bombed.

Yeah. So at the moment this is The CW's #1 show. But I'm sure that will change soon.

Well Smallville could be that if it pulls last season premiere. But I doubt it.

smallville will open to probably 4.5 mil and settle in the 3.5-4 mil range. Which will be good enough to get it a 9th season.