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Michael.
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Alias (8:00-9:00 p.m.) LAST WEEKS EPISODE
Building audience from its first to its second half-hour, ABCs Alias was up from the prior week by 15% in Total Viewers (6.1 million vs. 5.3 million) and by 22% in Adults 18-49 (2.2/6 vs. 1.8/5).
I think its kind of depressing that Alias has slumped to pulling a 1.8 in the 18-49s an episode. No thanks to ABC. But hey, im passed blaming them, they killed the show and To be honest, I am glad its going out on a high rather than after four seasons more. I think it could have really pulled in more viewers in future years, but thats the tv game huh
I hope this weeks epsiode shows further improvement
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A. G.
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Sat May 20, 2006 12:08 pm |
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Michael.
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Archie i love you.
I'll try it today
I am going to not be online until ive seen the episodes sometime tuesday afternoon by the way. I will then proceed to kill myself.
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Sat May 20, 2006 9:45 pm |
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Michael.
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yayay thanks archie i got it working. Its slow as hell though, but ill watch Lost on it for sure.
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Sat May 20, 2006 10:32 pm |
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Dkmuto
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I'm trying to catch up quick before the finale. Just watched the one where Nadia dies, which was pretty good, and the one before that with Will, which was great.
Just give me a quick recap: What have you guys thought about the last few episodes?
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Sat May 20, 2006 11:56 pm |
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Michael.
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From the episode 9 onwards this season has been incredible IMO. It's never really let up.
There have been a few scenes here and there that have been a bit iffy, Nadia dying comes to mind.
But you know I am still impressed at how efficently the writers have been tying things up. But at the same time sometimes i think if JJ was still the writer wed see things differently. Like more emotion from Sydney when nadia died. Small stuff like that.
All that said. i think this has to potential to be the second best season of the shows history depending on the quality of the finale
But the build up to it has been great. Sloane as a bad guy again was the smartest move the writers have made in a long time. Peyton is a great bad girl and I cannot wait to see how it all ends.
But i do wish Ron Rifkin was putting in more effort. I know he can do better, his acting seems a little lazy this year.
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Marty
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Felicity Titwank wrote: There have been a few scenes here and there that have been a bit iffy, Nadia dying comes to mind.
You really think that was an iffy scene?
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Sun May 21, 2006 5:12 am |
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Michael.
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yeah i do i thought that the execution was badddd. The worst ive seen on any alias episode actually. Just poorly done.
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Sun May 21, 2006 10:33 am |
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Raffiki
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Felicity Titwank wrote: yeah i do i thought that the execution was badddd. The worst ive seen on any alias episode actually. Just poorly done.
I almost completely disagree.
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Sun May 21, 2006 1:47 pm |
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Michael.
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What was good about it? There was bad dubbing, bad acting, bad direction. The actual death happened in the blink of an eye.
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Sun May 21, 2006 2:07 pm |
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Dkmuto
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I just thought it was silly she was killed by... a table.
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Sun May 21, 2006 2:26 pm |
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rtms
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Yeah that scene was just badly done. It was as if they had shot numerous scenes and then cut and slashed most of them and came up with that. It just did not flow together. And the dialuoge and presentation of it was off. The actors were stilted. And for Sloane to have that much strength to push Nadia so hard she falls through the table[not to mention that said table are usually more sturdy than that] is just not believable.
I think it's a case of being in a hurry to wrap things up so its anything goes to do it. I guess they think the fans will swallow it up whole and not question anything.
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Sun May 21, 2006 3:30 pm |
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Michael.
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the scene did feel rushed. Not an Alias best. Thankfully the surrounding story bedded in that episode and the much better death of Renee kind of compensated.
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Sun May 21, 2006 3:49 pm |
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Michael.
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word from the tv critics in the inside circle is that the finale is AMAZING. I cant wait.
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Sun May 21, 2006 10:48 pm |
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Dkmuto
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Just watched the one where Syd went to the jail with Sark. GREAT episode. Even the Tom & Rachel plotline was interesting.
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Mon May 22, 2006 11:11 am |
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Dkmuto
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Mon May 22, 2006 2:06 pm |
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Michael.
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Guys...I'm not sure If I can do this.
I have to go to college tomorrow before I see the finale. Going out having known that its ended.
I'm not sure if I should just use that bullet i set aside after the season one finale for when it ends. I mean..... What do I do from here!?
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Mon May 22, 2006 2:44 pm |
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Michael.
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Some of CNNS questions....
Just a sampling: Did Sydney's mom really kill CIA agents, including Vaughn's father?
Of course she did, maybe not Bill Vaughn, maybe Prophet Six manipulated the CIA records to pin the blame on Irina. Why do we have to know EVERY detail?
How can Sydney be the woman prophesied by Rambaldi when she climbed a mountain to prove she isn't?
I'm pretty sure this was explained a while ago. I just cant remember what it said
Who is this Rambaldi guy, and how did he prognosticate everything?
Apparently Nostradamus doesnt exist to CNN...
Why did Sydney's Aunt (Isabella Rossellini) try to kill Sydney and Vaughn?
She Did?
Why exactly did Sydney have those two years wiped from her memory?
This was all explained as well...god.
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Mon May 22, 2006 2:48 pm |
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Raffiki
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:tear:
It's time to say good-bye to Sydney Bristow.
[/commercial voice over]
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Mon May 22, 2006 2:51 pm |
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Michael.
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this is too much! Im much more upset/agressive today than i thought id be
Probably the lack of sleep and the mounting pile of work.
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Mon May 22, 2006 3:14 pm |
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Michael.
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Some more articles
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/T ... s-301.html
Heres some very interesting and not at all bias articles about why 24 is better than Alias and why, if you watch Alias, your a complete idiot.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/li ... life-today
It sucks that 24 is going to win in the ratings. DIE 24 DIE.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar ... 0/1032/ENT
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12802536/page/2/
Am I the only one slightly annoyed by the endless articles saying that "Alias is exactly how not to run a series. Calling it "unreliable" "too complicated" and "meandering" Am i the only person on earth who basically gets everything about the show? Still, the finale is getting critical seal of approval, although its being overshadowed indeed by the more watched 24's finale.
I think it might have been smart for ABC to, oh I dont know, delay the finale a week? Whats showing this sunday on ABC?
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Raffiki
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Felicity Titwank wrote: Am I the only one slightly annoyed by the endless articles saying that "Alias is exactly how not to run a series. Calling it "unreliable" "too complicated" and "meandering" Am i the only person on earth who basically gets everything about the show? Still, the finale is getting critical seal of approval, although its being overshadowed indeed by the more watched 24's finale.
I think it might have been smart for ABC to, oh I dont know, delay the finale a week? Whats showing this sunday on ABC?
I think Alias sunk in quality every single time they tried to veer away from the core family drama and the mythology. Once SD6 came down, all they had left were some peaking story arcs (that would eventually lose steam) and the family drama/mythology aspect. They should have kept building on that and taken the show in a different direction. by end of Season 3 they had jumped right back on the right track but Season 4 derailed EVERYTHING. whether or not the season and epsiodes were in and of themselves great or bad didn't matter. It changed things forever.
As for your inquiry about another date Michael.... the 2005-2006 Season ends this Wednesday. I actually think tonight was a really great day, time, and place to air the finale. It only sucks that they both couldn't and wouldn't advertise it more (I don't blame them though, top we'll see is 11 million or so viewers tonight and that's highly optimistic). Plus, it's got that enormously advertised Legends Ball preceeding it. Though I think the over-advertising for that special actually could have people sick of it.
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Michael.
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You know i think your the only person i know who thought season 3 was the "right track" and thats okay, people percieve things differently.
Season 4 was in my opinion much better than season 3. 3 was way too tangled up in the relationship triangle and it lost sight of what the show was actually about. Season 4's first half felt like early season one, where there were no complications. Season 4's second half was like early season 2, where sydney was battling the rambaldi stuff and her family were a big part of it too. They should have tried to have given it more balance, but for me, it was the definition of "right track".
Season 5 though is the best season since season 2. Cliffhangers a plenty, interesting characters, family conflict, some tear jerking moments, big revelations and explosive action.
I think Alias can probably stand trial for several things. But it cannot ever be criticised for ever being unoriginal or stale. Because throughout the shows run its re-invented itself and provided something fresh and interesting every year. Even though I might have found the love triangle a bit bleh, I think that it was also a great idea and the show actually functioned better in season 3 than a lot of people give it credit for when we look back at it. At the time though it was a frustrating experience...it was a slow burning buildup and then the actual finale was really blehh. It was very good up until the final scene where Sydney uncovered a document that...well, basically told us something we had already more or less learned much earlier anyway.
Season 4 I believe had the task of bringing back the wigs, the glamour etc for the first half, and then reintroducing the original plot when more people were watching, it did that well. I liked the original dynamic being restored as much as they could.
You know, if Alias was any other show, Season 5's big finale would see Sydney taking down SD-6 for once and for all. No shit, this show could have easily drawn that concept out for five seasons. I, for one, am glad that the show has always kept me on my toes as a viewer. I'm even more glad to have seen the careful reintroduction of the most important questions from the series' birth lately, and seeing many ends being tied up finally.
Sometimes I feel like people exageratte how its got all of these "loose ends". Hasn't it tied up the loose ends that mattered already? I mean, feel free to correct me if im wrong here, but what loose ends are there left? I think the fact that Alias is an extremely complex show, with so many twists and turns every episode, it means that people can get confused about what was tied up and when. I like that about the show, I like that it doesn't lay everything out on the table and connect the dots for you, but it leaves some work up to the viewer to do, a little guesswork backed up by a little fact that is, most usually, confirmed by the show sometime later on.
I have never missed an episode of Alias no matter what. I've been a dedicated viewer for five years because it's been beautifully executed, amazingly acted and written and directed. It's never been a frustrating experience for me as it has been for some viewers and critics. I think they could have drawn its original premise out for about one season longer before changing the dynamic, but everything happens for a reason, perhaps Alias would have become the one thing it has never been if it had stuck with that premise - boring.
When I watch back all of the four seasons on dvd this summer, I'll be reminded of just how great every damn season of this show has been. Jennifer Garner and, indeed, everyone involved, deserve huge success in their careers as Alias is more than enough to prove they deserve it.
At its best I'd call Alias a revolution of television, the first show to truly make the viewer feel like they are watching a movie, filled with some of the most brilliant talent in entertainment.
At its worst, I'd call Alias the best thing on tv.
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Michael.
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Michael.
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lol cant even hotlink from my own damn website.
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