Question for people familiar with the novels: is the prostitute Tyrion loves (the one who testified against him) a conflation of two characters from the books?

No, but she has a much bigger role on the show. In the book she is pretty much just a whore who is using Tyrion. While on the show they established that she does actually love Tyrion. Anything positive she has done on the show is an addition from D&D.

Okay, so did the Mountain die in his combat with Prince Oberyn? It looked like he killed over at the end of the episode two weeks ago, but a co-worker of mine says he didn't die. Just want some clarification without being spoiled.

It's complicated.

Yeah you should keep watching, they might get around this next season, lol.

Pyp and Grenn's death are more emotional since they did not die in the books

Good episode considering in the books this battle was never as exciting as Blackwater.

Will be interesting to see how they handle the Mance encounter. It does seem like

In the books kinda just happened and is completely forgettable - the show will do it more justice next season - probably episode 1.

And I couldn't care less if they completely omit which they likely will do.

well

I think we all think the same. But his storyline or relevance may not go much further so they cut him out.

It will be interesting to see which characters get cut from the show from here on. Will certainly tell us how relevant they will be in the overall story.

Martin isn't stupid enough to change his ending for such a silly reason. "I've been building up to this for a few decades, but fuck it, I'm gonna throw it out because they did a variation on it first."

It's like people saying he'll change Jon Snow's parentage because people have figured it out. That's ridiculous.

The show will finish long before the books do. I still hold out hope Winds of Winter is out next year but as for Spring (and the likely Book 8 - yes it will happen) - they'll be out long after the show is over.

I don't think the ending will change - the show runners know the ending and will work towards that. Its how they get there that will be different.

And that's not a bad thing. I think they'll drastically improve on Feast/Dance in Season 5 by a.) combining them and b.) focusing on the best bits and trimming the fat.

BTW - is anyone else excited about the forthcoming "World of Ice and Fire" book out in October? I know they are including a longer version of The Princess and the Queen" but anynone know if they will feauture a longer version of the upcoming Prince Daeron story in "Rogues" - I'd rather not have to buy Rogues and wait for WOIAF.

I will be dissapointed if they dont end the season with



While it might not be important to the overall story, the shock value of that will cause a shit storm on the internet ala Red Wedding.

I would say I am disappointed with the finale because they changed alot of shit.

happy fathers day, tywin lannister

Yeah that one especially, they just fucked up Dinklage's second emmy win. The whole scene was too short because alot of shit was cut.

How would they fuck up Dinklage's Emmy win? You can only submit one episode. He would clearly submit Episode 6.

And Tywin's death was perfect. You just have the book too ingrained in your head.

I was shocked it didn't end The beginning was my favorite part. I loved the whole scene with Stannis and I thought the scene with Jon and Melisandra was great foreshadowing.

It's a three minute scene. A three minute scene with two people just talking. It got a proper amount of time, and killed with every non-book reader I saw it with. (In fact, I haven't seen a single complaint about the scene from anyone who hasn't read A STORM OF SWORDS.)

So how long should scenes be, then? The Tyrion/Tywin scene is almost exactly the same length as the book (three minutes vs. a page and a half) with the only difference being the shift from Tysha to Shae and Tywin's final words changing. And for what it's worth, I thought Tyrion's quiet anger was a hell of a lot more effective than his constant snarkiness in the text.

Also, Whitlock's a fucking moron and always has been.

I think it was a little rushed, but there was so much shit that went down in this episode so that didn't help. Also about

No she wasn't. 24 didn't start shooting until January. They finished filming the Ireland stuff (where a Stoneheart scene would be set) in September.

The Game Of Thrones finale is always disappointing because it means we have to wait a year for the next new episode.