Hmmm, perhaps Lee Adama or the unthinkable, Edward James Olmos???

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This pic is a pretty big SPOILER as to WHO the major cast member is that will be part of the Final 5 with the Cylons.. I never would've guessed..

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Black Friday incoming?

I fucking hope not. This and 24 are the only consistently awesome dramas.

"UPDATE!! IESB.com reports a SciFi publicist has denied this rumor."

BSG will at least get a fourth season. It's still Sci-Fi's #2 show (#1 at the current time because Eureka isn't around) and the DVD/iTunes sales have been impressive.

Ron Moore's wife came to the boards a few weeks ago and said that all the hype around being canceled and whatnot is all fan generated madness because Sci-Fi has not discussed that with them.

In fact, they are talking about doing a mid-season movie.

I don't think that the Caprica series is going to happen for them them, but BSG is Sci-Fi's prestige show that gets really good ratings as far as the shows on their channel are concerned. A fourth season would make syndication easier and therefor the show would make much more money for them in the future.

But Season 5? I dunno.

That's not Cally, and even if it is a stand in, it's likely the final five haven't been cast for these parts yet.

I think Starbuck is going to disappear at the end of the season but I think the Starbuck permanent death is a fake out. They've been a little too public about it. It's a smokescreen for something else happening. If anybody dies this season I say it's Roslin.

Nice to have a fourth season confirmed. Might the limit of what it can manage before the writers would have to come up with improbable obstacles to stop them finding Earth.

I dunno. It seems like the writers (to me) are starting to realize that there is only one season left. Especially if they find something that directly leads them to Earth by the end of the season.

Really... 4 seasons would be pretty good.

I just want to see it end in it's regular run.

True. Its very rare for a show to go out while its still firing on all cylinders, it would be nice for BSG to do that.

I'm not sure the "gonna die, find out they are a cylon and find Earth" was all supposed to happen in Rapture, but until the end of the season.

But there is death tonight, of sorts, one perminent and one strategically.

There is no cylon reveal tonight, although apparently there is a large hint towards it.

I wonder if even the writers themselves have decided who the final 5 will definatively be.

By the time they got to Downloaded they were talking about the other cylons not knowing who the remaining five were, at least in chats (not on the show itself).

So yes, I'm sure they definitely know... at least since Downloaded.

My theory is that Jammer turns out to be one of them, and I think Gaeta is the other. Aaron Douglas (Tyrol) said 4 of the 5 remaining cylons will be revealed by season end and new spoiler data from TV Guide says that...

[spoil]Kara is not a cylon[/spoil]

DISCONTINUED!!

So, what big stuff happened?!

There is a part of me that really wishes they find an actual map like something you'd get at a garage. I'm an impatient git like that.

Still at least the writers cleverly leave open the chance for lucy lawless to return if she wishes to.

Ummm... Cylons get mad at D'ianna/Three because she's making too many decisions without them, they turn all but one ship around and Galactica backs down.

On the planet, Sam + Lee fight while Dee tries to save Kara (and eventually done).

Helo shot/"killed" Athena so she would ressurect on the Ressurection Ship so that she could get Hera.

Helo verbally bitchslapped Roslin after Roslin accused Helo (correctly) of endangering the fleet by giving the Cylons Athena.

Once on the Basestar, Athena saw that Hera had a hard stomach, so convinced Caprica to take the Raptor (from Torn) and leave the Basestar so they could take Hera to Doc Cottle

Boomer tried to kill Hera, she's pissed at the universe now and kind of hates humans. Caprica realizes that Athena is correct and the baby needs a human doctor, so she punches Boomer then snaps her neck.

Three and Baltar talk about Three's destiny, ChipSix appears and tells Baltar that she isn't the chosen one, that he (Baltar) is. Baltar agrees.

Chief can't find the Eye of Jupiter, Apollo tells him to blow the building...

...just before he can, Three, Baltar and a Cavil model come in and disable the bombs.

Just then the sun in that systems goes nova. Chief realizes that this event is actually the Eye of Jupiter.

Baltar kills Cavil. Three goes into a pad and sees the final five... the audience doesn't see but to one of them she says "You? Forgive me... I had no idea". She then comes back to real-world and is all blind and bleeding from her nose... she dies.

Baltar stands up, Chief walks in and pistol whips him. They all escape the planet.

Back on the ship, Tigh takes an unconcious Baltar prisoner, and puts Caprica in the brig, Hera is on the ship.

Gaeta realises that the nova looks like another nova that happened in another system around the time of the 13th Tribe.

Helo sees Kara, asks for some pictures, Kara has apparently painted the symbol of the Eye of Jupiter on her wall in her apartment (see Fragged!) and she talks to Helo about Leoben being right and that she thinks she may have a destiny.

Three wakes up on Res Ship. Cavil is there, says that her model is fundamentally flawed. She's calm but says "no, it's beautiful, you will see the final 5 someday". Cavil talks about erasing every thought her model ever put forth and putting it in cold storage. Bye bye Three.

I love Battlestar... this looks fucking awesome...

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Roslin really is a ruthless creature.

although Baltar is lying. He is a murdered and a rotten person. He is trying as always to save his neck. I think Roslyn is just trying to make him talk with that throw him out the airlock bit. I also have a funny suspcion that the pardon she issued back a few episodes will clear Baltar too.

I wouldn't necessarily dispute this, but I dunno... one of the interesting things about Baltar as a character, and why I think he's one of the single best characters ever written for television is that he's not "really" a murderer. He is an (unwilling and unknowing) participant in genocide, for which is he is definately partly culpable for but not necessarily responsible for. Yeah he killed Crashdown, but Crashdown was going nuts and Baltar made a split decision which saved Cally. He's no more of a murderer in that instance than Lee Adama is. And while he is an ego manic, he's not openly evil, just callous.

So in a weird way, Baltar doesn't actually see himself as a murderer, because he hasn't instigated the attacks, he's only been used as a tool, just like he was when he was President of the Colonies, whether through Zarek, ChipSix or the Cylons.

After the attack on the 12 Colonies, there has been few times when Baltar has had the opportunity to redeem himself. He can't confess, he'll be killed, he does feel genuine love and (I believe) genuine remorse when he can grasp what has happened, he's forced by the humans, ChipSix and the Cylons to continuously move forwards at all times in order to avoid certain death. He's more of a figure to be pitied.

He also may be thrust into this position by the gods/Cylon God, in which case he almost becomes like a Judas figure (for lack of better comparison). Someone who's unescapable destiny is to bring about certain events. Someone to be pitied, not necessarily hated. ChipSix has openly said he was this figure a few times... and I think I actually believe her in the context of the show.

Of all the characters on the show, I identify the most with Baltar. The most heartbreaking storyline on the show right now is Baltar's quest for his identity. It's not that he wants to be a Cylon as much as being a Cylon would be an explaination for the events. It shows that he feels an immense amount of guilt. I always believed that the most "rotten"/evil people in existence couldn't feel that emotion.

I actually feels the same way. Baltar is the reluctant villian of the piece, at no real point does he take an evil course of action unless he is hemmed in and has no other choice.

I actually find Roslin to be a tad unlikable. She has a ruthless streak that only a certain type of politician can display. Witness her decisions over Hera and Admiral Cain. Maybe they were right in some way but I couldn't ignore the cold finality of them.

BUMP for Tonight's Episode of GALACTICA that comes off last weeks ass kicking episode involving Supernovas and The Eye of Jupiter conflict in the race to find Earth(Which I hope they don't find too soon).. I'm still trying to get used to this show moving to Sunday nights however and with The WWE Royal Rumble on tonight, I hope there's a replay of this episode??

I'm not loving Sunday nights either. Apparently the ratings haven't changed too much either some people speculated because the playoff games were last week (and which is why there is no Battlestar next week) but... eh. I just hope for a fourth season. I've already determined that if Battlestar goes off the air, I'm not going to be a psychotic Firefly fan and spend my life dealing with it. Sci-Fi will give Battlestar a movie closure if nothing else (they can make it a huge "event"). Anyway...

Tonight was very "full circle". This episode dealt directly with major plot points that were established in the mini-series. The Lee/Kara sexual tension and Baltar coming clean about everything. Unless you are a Sharon fan, you should be pretty happy with the episode as it dealt primarily with 6 of the 7 primary cast members.

My feelings are that the love quadrangle thing is done for now. I could be proven wrong next week (see spoiler below for why I think I'm right). I have enjoyed it, and I never wanted Lee and Kara to stay together. I read a lot of complaining about it, but we've really only been dealing with the actual mess for like 5 episodes, and only 2 have had it as a major focus. Lee's arc this season seems to be "becoming a man" something he's never been. Dee rocked tonight, and she owned the scenes. The only part which was a little much for me was Lee.

But I want Lee and Dee to work out. Mostly because Lee/Kara combo is just too cheesy and fanish, and the fact that at some point *some* relationships have to work out. The other thing that made me think it was over was the great conversation between Lee and Chief about Sharon, and when he asked her if he still thinks about her and he says "no" and angrily walks away. Lee might have to consider Kara as much of a lost cause as Boomer became.

[spoil]I think the quadrangle is done because we are going to be getting into the "Woman King" which is about Helo/Baltar, "Dirty Hands" which is about Chief/Cally/knuckledraggers and "A Day In The Life" which is about Adama. Then "Maelstrom", the episode where Kara supposedly "dies" or is thought to die. Meaning that I don't think they have a ton of time between now and "Maelstrom" to address the quadrangle anymore. If Kara comes back, it might be after a year or so. Sam and Lee will be in different places.[/spoil]

Non Spoiler Speculation: Gaeta is the Cylon. This is nothing new, I know no spoilers, but I think everything points to Gaeta being the cylon. His past is cloudy, he seems to be great with computers, did he plant the cylon device on the bridge in the mini-series? He also wakes up just before Gaius tries to commit suicide?

I loved the Baltar stuff. I don't know what I can say about it. He gets his release, he tells them that he sees an invisible lady (in a way), they know that he was used as a tool to destroy the Colonies, and he's confirmed to NOT be a cylon, so he's one of the few on the show that we can mark off. I thought it was pretty creative too. His floating in the water reminded me of Ressurection Ship 2. There were a lot of winks to that story too, especially Roslin saying to try the carrot... reminded me of Gina/Cain/Baltar.

Of course, it will be interesting to see if they can submit any of this as evidence in his trial. And I did like Gaius turning on Gaeta at the end. The great part about James Callis is that sometimes, even when she isn't there, I feel like he's getting tips from ChipSix.

Somebody should slap Lee and Kara next time they start with the longing stares. Loved the Baltar interrogation sections especially the drug induced piece. I don't think Baltar can be marked off as a Cylon just yet fearful declerations aren't ironclad in my book. No Hera in this episode I reckon now that she's back on Galactica that story will stay on the backburner for a while.

I wouldn't worry to much about the ratings, there still very respectable for cable and a doubt Sci-Fi would carry a struggling show very far, that and the fact that it still gets top 10 ratings on British satellite makes a more then viable show.