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Jedi Master Carr
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Dr. Magnus wrote: Miles is key I think. He's one of the few people who actually has any power on the island. If they kill him off, it'll be after he does something major. I never thought he would die, though I did wonder whether he'd go with the MIB. I think Miles is important same with Desmond who needs to come back soon (I am guessing they are saving him for the second half of the season). It was a great episode, I really saw a whole Faustian symbolism with Syaid and Flocke. Can't wait for next week, though I think the preview is misleading. I don't see Ben dying this early.
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Dr. Lecter
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
It was a good episode and a great rebound from last week's slow one. There was a lot to take in. Sayid being the bad guy is sad, but I'd rather have him as the bad guy than Sawyer.
And Miles will probably bite the dust eventually. I hope Lapidus doesn't, though.
I am wondering whether Charlies Widmore who has really been built up A LOT over the past two seasons will actually play a large role this season whatsoever?
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:07 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Just read that Charlies Widmore will show up next episode!
Also:
In epsiode 9:
- We will learn what the island is from Jacob.
- We learn why Richard does not age
Could be a classic Lost episode.
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trixster
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Also, in episode 15... no series regulars will appear. It's likely that this is the backstory of Jacob and the MIB.
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Dr. Lecter
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
As for Desmond: He'll be back and not alone - Penny will be with him.
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:35 pm |
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O
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
I have one Lost theory that I have thought about more today.
I now believe that Hurley is the candidate.
Here's why...what I'm seeing is that people have turned bad on the island when they become consumed by something that they lost and are willing to do anything to get it back.
We saw it with Claire (wants Aaron back, was convinced by bad Locke that she could get him back and has turned to the dark side).
We saw it with Sayid (wanted a life with Nadia and turned to the dark side).
We saw it with Rosseau (lost Alex and went crazy, though it was never clear if she was good/bad).
We're seeing signs of it with Sawyer (lost Juliet and could be moving toward bad Locke's side).
I believe that something will happen to Sun/Jin (likely to Sun) and Jin will turn to bad Locke's side in order to get her back.
This season, I think we'll see each and every major character on the show turning to bad Locke's side one by one.
Every person on the island will be turned bad to get back something or obtain something, but ultimately they become consumed by it, and turn bad (ex. Claire, consumed by wanting to get Aaron back, is now very much on bad Locke's side as is Sayid).
But there is one person who had it all in the real world and realized that getting everything you want doesn't necessarily lead to happiness. That's Hurley.
I think Hurley is the only one on the island that wouldn't be convinced by bad Locke to turn bad. Hurley won the lottery and had everything and saw the bad it brought out in others and bad luck it brought.
I think this is exactly why Jacob is communicating through him. Miles hasn't seemed to have contact with Jacob yet. As Hurley has the cleanest (blank) slate of the group left over, he can ultimately take Jacob's place. He's the only one who really knows that having everything that you've always wanted doesn't necessarily lead to happiness, which is what bad Locke is using to pull people to his side.
I think even though Jacob is making it seem like Hurley is there to help Jack, I think its actually the other way around. Jack needs to help Hurley beat bad Locke (ex. Jack opened the light house door for Hurley). Jack is central of course to all of this, but ultimately Hurley is the candidate. I believe the last recruit of bad Locke (also rumored to be an episode title of a future episode) will be Jack. He'll be the last one of the main Lost characters to turn, but ultimately Hurley will be able to save the island...
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:08 am |
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O
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Dr. Magnus wrote: Eh, the thing about Hurley is that he's not a leader. He's a great follower, but not a leader. He has always been loyally following others yes. Jack was always on one side. Good Locke was on the other side of the spectrum. Sawyer was on other side of the spectrum. Hurley was always just there, but was balanced between them. He might not be a leader, but as they seem to be focusing on the balance between good and bad, Hurley is the closest in terms of not being conflicted by his emotions to balancing out bad Locke. If bad Locke asked Hurley like he did to Sayid, "What if you can have anything that you've ever wanted," Hurley is the only one of the characters left imo that would be able to see through it, as he had everything and saw the bad that comes from it... Kate, Sawyer, Jack, Jin, Sun, Ben, Charles Widmore, they all seem to have baggage and bad things that they've done that could be used by bad Locke. The third episode of the show was Tabula Rosa (Blank Slate). The first two were the pilot episode. I think that Hurley has a relatively blank slate in terms of the other characters. If the numbers correspond to people brought to the island, Hurley was the one who first heard the numbers on Rosseau's radio transmission. He ultimately could have inadvertantly set in motion bringing those six people to the island through his life's actions... Just an idea, but I think more and more that Hurley is key...
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:39 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
O wrote: I think even though Jacob is making it seem like Hurley is there to help Jack, I think its actually the other way around. Jack needs to help Hurley beat bad Locke (ex. Jack opened the light house door for Hurley). Jack is central of course to all of this, but ultimately Hurley is the candidate. I believe the last recruit of bad Locke (also rumored to be an episode title of a future episode) will be Jack. He'll be the last one of the main Lost characters to turn, but ultimately Hurley will be able to save the island...
Hm, we know all episode titles already except for the finale. Would they really call the finale Jack?!
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:52 am |
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O
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Dr. Lecter wrote: O wrote: I think even though Jacob is making it seem like Hurley is there to help Jack, I think its actually the other way around. Jack needs to help Hurley beat bad Locke (ex. Jack opened the light house door for Hurley). Jack is central of course to all of this, but ultimately Hurley is the candidate. I believe the last recruit of bad Locke (also rumored to be an episode title of a future episode) will be Jack. He'll be the last one of the main Lost characters to turn, but ultimately Hurley will be able to save the island...
Hm, we know all episode titles already except for the finale. Would they really call the finale Jack?! No the episode title is, "The last recruit," or something like that...
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:58 am |
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
trixster wrote: Also, in episode 15... no series regulars will appear. It's likely that this is the backstory of Jacob and the MIB. or the long-awaited Vincent the dog episode!
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:01 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
^LOL
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O
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Also, in season 4, Hurley saw Jacob's cabin as well and the door opened for him (presumably when the smoke monster character took it over). Hurley was scared of it and it went away. Hurley's flashforward episode in season 4 was called "The beginning of the end."
The Oceanic Six were Jack, Kate, Sun, Hurley, Aaron, and Sayid. I think the candidate is one of these six that did make it off of the island. It isn't Aaron, and Sayid has already turned. That leaves Jack, Kate, Sun, and Hurley. I don't see it being Kate or Sun right now, and it would come down to Jack or Hurley. Ultimately I think Hurley is the only one that could resist bad Locke...
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Dr. Lecter
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Heh, even on Lost sexism prevails : )
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:15 am |
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O
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Dr. Lecter wrote: Heh, even on Lost sexism prevails : ) Well my reasoning was that Jin being on the island is something that could turn Sun to bad Locke's side (if they want to meet each other again). As with Kate, she is conflicted between Jack/Sawyer that she could turn as well. Also, here's an interesting tidbit, in Hurley's sideways episode (ie current season), he insists that he is lucky. "Lucky" is one meaning of the German name Faust(us), a fictional character who makes a deal with the devil (saw this on the Lostpedia website). Ie what Claire and Sayid just did to improve their luck and get back Aaron, and Nadia... Hurley's luck/bad luck trend certainly has something to do with bad Locke...perhaps Jacob/bad Locke have some type of link to probabilities (ie like the balance scales). To get better luck with their lives, as Claire and Sayid wanted, they gave up the good in them. Just general ideas right now, who knows though!
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:25 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Actually Faust(us) means fist in German. Lucky is the Latin meaning  Interesting ideas, though. I am also sure it won't be Sun or Kate...so Hurley or Jack...but maybe they'll surprise us altogether!
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:28 am |
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A. G.
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
I haven't had any doubt that the candidate is Jack. He's the designated hero, whether we like it or not. It might be fun if I'm wrong and they go somewhere more creative with it but it's always seemed to me like Jack is seen by the writers the way Harry Potter is in Rowling's books, for example.
Which is one reason it has long bugged me how much they wimpified Jack. He was likable in season 1 and then they just kept both emasculating him (Sawyer seems to sleep with every woman Jack likes on the island) and making him a godawful leader. He's also the least convincing doctor on tv.
If you want to laugh at Jack, at the way the character has been written in recent seasons, read that blog I linked to earlier today and read the recap for The Lighthouse.
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Dr. Lecter
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
A. G. wrote: (Sawyer seems to sleep with every woman Jack likes on the island) and making him a godawful leader. He's also the least convincing doctor on tv.
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
At least they explained the baseball that saved Sayid life before Dogen got killed (and yay for that, what an unnecessary character and really the whole bunch of these other Others as it turned out).
Meh episode.
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:29 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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I liked Dogen. Sad to see him gone.
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mdana
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Did anyone else hope Sayid got confused and stabbed Kate thinking she was already dead?
I had dozed off and thought Sayid was going to stab her. I was like "Stab her, stab her before she says something, Sayid." My wife replied, "she's not dead." I said, "she would be if Sayid stabbed her." I like Kate, but I don't think I could stand another Kate centric episode.
The episodes are putting me to sleep and it is becoming a chore to continue watching the show. This season in general and the last two episodes specifically are not doing anything for me. They are going out of their way to not really push the plot forward. The pacing is bad and the scenes at the temple looked like outakes from the 1970's Land of the Lost series with a bigger budget. I would have laughed, but I didn't want to wake my wife.
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A. G.
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Whatever my criticisms of the season so far this scene gets an A for creepiness and good callback of music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfsPM_-M1N0
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Jedi Master Carr
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
Great episode, it is interesting to see Ben make a completely different choice in the other timeline while trying to be good on the island. And now Widmore is back. Should be a great episode next week.
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:16 pm |
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
You know, it wasn't so long ago that Ben was an extremely creepy and mysterious figure. His transition of redemption into a kind-hearted (?) but misguided man has been one of the strongest aspects of Lost, thanks in large part to Michael Emerson's incredible performances throughout. Ben's speech to Ilana was riveting and heartbreaking. And seeing Alex (studying AP History with Dr. Linus!) appear as a student in the alternate reality just made Island Ben's life sad all over again.
Very interesting reveal that the candidates can't kill themselves. I mean, I'm assuming that's what was implied by the dynamite failing to go off.
Widmore! Ahhhh.
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:33 pm |
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Jim Halpert
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 Re: The "Lost" Thread: Season 6
was i the only one who found it incredibly cheesy when the obvious fake scope of the sub came out of the water
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