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 The 'Lost' Thread (Season 4) 
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Wait, didn't Sawyer see Kate's horse? Wasn't there something with Dave's slipper?

I've always thought that Christian Shepherd = Dave = Yemi = Ana Lucia (flashback) = monster = Ben's mom = manifestation of the monster. And since last season I've always pretty much assumed that those = Jacob.


My head just exploded.

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Just watched a tv show called "LOST IN 8 MINUTES 15" and it is, indeed, all three seasons of lost compressed into 8 minutes 15 seconds. I missed so fucking much!

It makes me interested in the show again. I thought it went to a bad place but it looks like it didnt.


Well, some will argue that some of Season 2 and the first few eps of Season 3 went sour, but I don't think it hit any rough patches that were harsher than Alias's rough patches.


The thing with lost is that, at the time, you dont see the show going anywhere.
With Alias i always knew there'd be an endgame within each season as well as a bigger endgame.
Lost seems to just continously ask more questions, but with this season finally promising SOME answers, interest is returning.

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Okay, I have finally seen the season premiere. It's solid, better than last season's premiere, but didn't blow me away. Probably too high expectations or something.

But it started off really well, especially with the whole Ocean Six thing.

Oh and I agree with Andaroo as far as Christian Shepherd = Yemi = Monster.... = Jacob goes.

BTW, how the hell could Naomi have gotten this far with a freakin' knife in her head?!

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It was in her back, not her head. And yes it seems unlikely though I suppose they could have it that it missed anything vital somehow.


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Okay, I have finally seen the season premiere. It's solid, better than last season's premiere, but didn't blow me away. Probably too high expectations or something.

But it started off really well, especially with the whole Ocean Six thing.

Oh and I agree with Andaroo as far as Christian Shepherd = Yemi = Monster.... = Jacob goes.

BTW, how the hell could Naomi have gotten this far with a freakin' knife in her head?!

It was in her back, wasn't it?

Interesting that it's Jack's dad in the chair. That whole sequence was incredibly well done, and actually gave me the willies. Had I been 10-years-old it would've probably given me nightmares. But as I am not 10, it most definitely did not. Nosiree.

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Oh, her back? Okay...still a bit unrealistic, especially even being able to lay the wrong trace.

The whole Jacob thing is very creepy, yeah.

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Well this is the island were people heal/don't die, so it's forgiveable

I assume Mikael is some kind of agent of the island... I wonder if he's a complete manifestation or something. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up again for sure.

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I am curious if by the end of these 8 episodes, whether we'll be any closer to figuring out what the Island is?

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Solid premiere
looks like im back for LOST.

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Solid premiere
looks like im back for LOST.


Had you seen the last half of season 3?

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Solid premiere
looks like im back for LOST.


Had you seen the last half of season 3?


saw the finale and watched an 8 minute 15 recap of the first 3 seasons.
Although really, i watched all of season one and then a few episodes of season two before dropping out. I got back on the wagon on at the season 3 finale.

In the UK its shown on cable now rather than major network tv so it's that bit more difficult to catch.

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Michael. wrote:
Solid premiere
looks like im back for LOST.


Had you seen the last half of season 3?


saw the finale and watched an 8 minute 15 recap of the first 3 seasons.
Although really, i watched all of season one and then a few episodes of season two before dropping out. I got back on the wagon on at the season 3 finale.

In the UK its shown on cable now rather than major network tv so it's that bit more difficult to catch.


Damn, you've missed out. Although personally I loved season 2, it is also my belief that they screwed up somewhere along season 2 and decided to go another direction with the show, maybe not the endgame but the majority of how to get to the endgame (after all Emerson was only supposed to be there for a few episodes if I'm not mistaken and now he's like one of the foal points of the show).

Anyway, after what I believe was a reshuffle of story and plotlines about mid-season 2 it gained alot of momentum and a clear direction. they lost the momentum in early season 3 mainly because in the first 6 episodes very little happened but when they came back it was episode after episode after episode of multiple story- and series arc payoffs and ingenious writing... I'd say that run of 10 or so episodes leading to the finale was probably the most exhilarating string of consecutive episodes I've ever watched for any show including Alias. And it continues with this premiere.

I think they had a clear vision of where the show was going and how it would probably end by the end of season 2. I think Desmond/Penelope will be integral to the endgame and it keeps becoming more apparent after Desmond's season 3 episode and the season 3 finale. You should check out all the episodes you've missed. Season two does have some stinkers but overall I enjoyed it.

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Raffiki wrote:
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Solid premiere
looks like im back for LOST.


Had you seen the last half of season 3?


saw the finale and watched an 8 minute 15 recap of the first 3 seasons.
Although really, i watched all of season one and then a few episodes of season two before dropping out. I got back on the wagon on at the season 3 finale.

In the UK its shown on cable now rather than major network tv so it's that bit more difficult to catch.


Damn, you've missed out. Although personally I loved season 2, it is also my belief that they screwed up somewhere along season 2 and decided to go another direction with the show, maybe not the endgame but the majority of how to get to the endgame (after all Emerson was only supposed to be there for a few episodes if I'm not mistaken and now he's like one of the foal points of the show).

Anyway, after what I believe was a reshuffle of story and plotlines about mid-season 2


I still miss Shannon. :( She was a victim of their reshuffle. She had storylines going on when she died! She was dating Sayid, but more importantly she was seeing Walt on the island and hearing the whispering voices. Then all of a sudden they just killed her and dropped all her storylines. :sleep:

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I agree. Shannon was one of my favorite characters and I definitely feel that she could have been developed a lot more if they had kept her alive.


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I've watched the first 14 episodes of the series so far, am I'm already so invested. Granted, everything i know is only from these 14 so my reasons may change when I keep watching. I like John Locke, a lot while he is odd he a lot of mystery to him. He is probably my favourite character so far. Ethan, I knew from the start was a bastard. The pregnant girl who's name escapes me at the moment I'm the least a fan of, she makes me really nervous. I think it may just be the actress. The relationship between the "brother and sister" is intruiging. Micheal and Walt are some real characters who you need to invest your heart in more than anything because their story is strong. Anyways, I need to go watch the rest of the series.


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I always hated Shanon, her and her brother were two of my most hated characters.

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I always hated Shanon, her and her brother were two of my most hated characters.

Boone was always a good choice to die first; doesn't take away from how sad it was though. I almost cried during Shannon's breakdown. I never thought they would kill both of them off though, just so they could always have the other appear in flashbacks and stuff. Pretty sure they'll somehow show up in this season as well.

Looking back, do you think Libby's death was planned all along? And why did Hurley never remember her in the pysch ward?


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I always hated Shanon, her and her brother were two of my most hated characters.

Boone was always a good choice to die first; doesn't take away from how sad it was though. I almost cried during Shannon's breakdown. I never thought they would kill both of them off though, just so they could always have the other appear in flashbacks and stuff. Pretty sure they'll somehow show up in this season as well.

Looking back, do you think Libby's death was planned all along? And why did Hurley never remember her in the pysch ward?


the writer's admitted Libby's death was not planned and they did it solely for the "woah" factor because they didn't think an Ana-Lucia death alone would solicit enough "oh shit" reactions. I think it was their biggest misstep. Libby was one fo the best characters they ever had. They had so much more they could have done with her. I don't even remember there ever being a backstory episode for her, was there? She appeared in both Desmond's and hurley's flashbacks though.

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the writer's admitted Libby's death was not planned and they did it solely for the "woah" factor because they didn't think an Ana-Lucia death alone would solicit enough "oh shit" reactions. I think it was their biggest misstep. Libby was one fo the best characters they ever had. They had so much more they could have done with her. I don't even remember there ever being a backstory episode for her, was there? She appeared in both Desmond's and hurley's flashbacks though.

Yep. Libby in Desmond's flashback was pretty much pointless though, other than a last curtain call. I kept hearing the producer's hype her flashback up, then nothing. That's the only real mistake I think they've made so far, as it was permanent.

Thinking back I'm kinda surprised at Charlie's death. I could always see the very last episode of the series having the shot of them staying together in the real world and such.. : ( But I guess it was for the best. And he did die clean.


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I don't really understand this need for killing off characters. Doesn't it feel like the writers feel obligated to kill off a certain amount of characters per season or something? I mean, seriously... do you sacrifice that much content for ratings?

It's not like any of the deaths were meaningful either (except Charlie's). They were all accidental deaths or pointless ones.

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the writer's admitted Libby's death was not planned and they did it solely for the "woah" factor because they didn't think an Ana-Lucia death alone would solicit enough "oh shit" reactions. I think it was their biggest misstep. Libby was one fo the best characters they ever had. They had so much more they could have done with her. I don't even remember there ever being a backstory episode for her, was there? She appeared in both Desmond's and hurley's flashbacks though.

Yep. Libby in Desmond's flashback was pretty much pointless though, other than a last curtain call. I kept hearing the producer's hype her flashback up, then nothing. That's the only real mistake I think they've made so far, as it was permanent.

Thinking back I'm kinda surprised at Charlie's death. I could always see the very last episode of the series having the shot of them staying together in the real world and such.. : ( But I guess it was for the best. And he did die clean.

The producers keep saying that Libby will be back in some flashback down the road. My guess is that somebody had her give Desmond the boat. My theory has always been that Penny's father wanted Desmond to get to that island so he could be permanently out of his daughter's life. I suspect she might show up in a Penny flashback or something like that.


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better than the season premiere.


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Oh god

Lost is my crack.

Whenever it ends, I am always like "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT"


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
these new guys are already more interesting that The Others and The Tailies.


It was definitely a smart move to introduce us to ALL of them, giving us rundowns of who they all our (Speaking of which, what was the opening flashback? I missed it), and not cocktease us about their past for half the season.

Awesome one-two punch so far. :thumbsup:


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Great episode, I agree introducing the 4 new characters that way was a great idea. Also it looks like we know why Ben was being so insistent on they were bad since they are after him. I wonder why they want him? The only thing I can think of is he killed all those people from Dharma. I do agree with Sawyer the should have just shot Ben.


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