I love Monica, she's very different. Nikki/Jessica thing is more interesting this year yet just as dull as last year. Give her more time please. The Irish story is boring as fuck. Kirsten Bell is the best character after one episode. The show needs Claire in every episode. I hate Hiro and the Jap story line.

the show needs a cleanup.

Kirsten bell was good but really, there was so little of her that i don't really see how one can even say shes the best character already. I think most people just like her due to her previous roles.

Forgot to mention I agree with this. Sylar needs to start killing people pronto! He kept the Heroes population down just dandy in the first season. The only problem is, if they kill the Wonder Twins and Monica, the general reaction would be "wtf! what was the point of all that screentime if you're just gonna kill them"... So the clean-up might have to wait till the end of the season or something.

thats what i was thinking as well. But let's look at it this way, none of the characters stand out. None at all. Peter would of been the best way to go. But noooo. They should of kept them in a group this year. All in New York fighting the government. I really think the show should of come to an X-Men type theme and continue to have 58 plots going at the same time. And for God's sake, can someone please kill off Mohinder. My fucking God! Even Greg Grunberg is annoying as fuck. He was totally cool on Alias.

Kirsten Bell's two minutes of screen time made up for the other boring 40 minutes, actually this whole season.

Season 2 so far: D+. The ratings clearly reflect this seasons shittiness.

The only reason I want to keep intouch with the show is because, there are some plots that I really enjoy.

Having thousands and thousands of heroes was the show's biggest mistake. There should've been maybe 50, max. All on Mohinder's dad's computer. The characters we get on screen, some dead ones, some out there who would lead to new plotlines. When they meet new ones, it would be from the main characters' perspective of 'hmm, who's that', not the new ones doing shit on their own. Again it's a suspension of disbelief to have them so close, but this way has some suspension of disbelief as well with abilities not being a huge national phenomenom that everyone now knows about(many bums would go the media and become famous), and the abilities now having gone from traditional cool like being invincible or reading minds, to downright silly and specific like killing someone when you cry. Genetics doesn't exactly cover that last one.

Yup. I'm so glad Lost doesn't have her now.

I loved the 3rd and the 4th episode. The 5th was a bit of a step-down.

The Monica character is, as many said before me, terribly annoying and seemingly useless. I doubt they'll kill her off soon.

The main problem is pretty much what all of us expected after the announcements of the cast members:

TOO MANY FREAKING STORYLINES!

The first season worked so so well because of the main storyline with the nuclear bomb and most characters working from the very beginning to stop it. This one just has some random guy killing off a bunch of people apparently. That threat just doesn't measure up to a nuclear attack. Moreover, there's no main villain like Sylar in here, no one truly evil right now, now that Sylar is powerless.

Good storylines:

Peter
Parkman/Nathan/MBennet/Mohinder
Sylar

Okay storylines:

Hiro
Claire/West


Bad storylines:

The Hondurian Twins
Micah/Monica
Nilkki/Jessica


I think I'll like Kristen Bell's character, though. They really really need to find some focus in this season. Hiro needs to return to present time at last! More focus on Peter's story, Sylar's story and on Parkman's/Nathan's story.

Nathan is the only main character and arc I really like this season. Peter is alright, Parkman is alright, most of the rest is blah to me. Except Ando, he's good, that actor is interesting to watch for some reason. Even though the 400 year old notes thing is stupid, he sells it.

Nathan's monster face is probably the most interesting aspect they've added. Apparently there's a "Four Months Ago" episode coming up, so maybe that'll explain it.

Maybe, but maybe not. I'm not going to pretend to be unbiased towards her. But, her character seems to be a bit on the evil side. Considering that evil usually comes with thick eyebrows, bald heads or horn-rimmed glasses, it's nice that evil looks good for a change.

going to attempt to watch the episode today, hopes not high

But don't you feel like the attention she is getting is a little much considering the roughly 5 minutes of screentime she has had on the show thus far?

Only if you're wrapped up in the marketing and web hyperbole... for someone who doesn't give a crap about Veronica Mars, barely knows of Kristen Bell and hasn't seen any advertising about her presence in the show (i.e., me), she's just another character. An interesting one at that.

Methinks you've gotten too caught up in the surrounding factors instead of treating her as just another small part of the show.

A harsh and funny entertainment weekly column on the state of this series.

This week on Heroes: Claire (Hayden Panettiere) continues to marvel at the same powers of regeneration she's always had! Hiro (Masi Oka) does cute things in feudal Japan! And after a journey of approximately 42 million miles from one vague part of Central America to another vague part of Central America, our new, haplessly murderous hero Maya (The Sopranos' Dania Ramirez) is still blubbering for her twin brother (Shalim Ortiz) and bleeding black goo from her eyes! Wait, which week is this? Every week.

And after that it gets worse.

Well, I'm not really speaking on the advertisements or the posts on any other forums. I didn't see the advertisements, and this is the only forum where I post. And while I'm happy that Kristen Bell is on a bigger, higher-rated show, I'm not saying she's God's gift to Hollywood. I'm just saying that in a season where half the cast is getting minimal screentime, she did well in the few minutes of screentime that she had. And the character is more interesting in those short minutes than about half the cast so far this season. So. I don't know if she's to thank for that, or if it's the character herself.

In a nutshell, I really like Kristen Bell, but I wasn't bouncing off the walls over her five minutes last Monday, like you thought I was. I'm just saying that what I saw was pretty good.

Christ, what do you want from me?!

Not that great of an episode (it was OK), seemed more like setup for next week than anything else.

There was way too much Hiro in this episode. Can he just leave 1671 and come back to the present already? I stop paying attention when he's on screen.

I am indeed glad that Monica wasn't "neutered" by the Company. I still think she's the most intriguing new character (except perhaps Elle, who didn't appear this week).

Damn, I was hoping Monica would be disposed of.

Well at least the Hiro storyline is going somewhere. I think his kiss of the Swordsman daughter has turned Kenesi into a bad guy. I have a personal theory that he is killing the older heroes in present time.

just watched episode 5 flight or fight. it was pretty bad again

Show is being written into the ground, now there going back to the only thing that works: a disaster the heroes must stop. This time an epidemic!

Either way, the show still intrigues me, and I'll watch for at least the whole season, likely into the start of next year.

You are right man. Heroes just isn't trying at this point.

Peter traveling to New York to find "x" problem that needs to be solved? The continual inability of the show to move beyond Issac's paintings?

Even Maya's story is similar to Ted Sprague's (the exploding man)... basically a hero with too much power who has trouble maintaining it. Someone who Sylar wants to eat.

I'm guessing the future twist will come in the form of Maya being injected with that virus that Suresh warned about in an effort to kill her powers it mutates and kills everyone.

HMMMM

I thought it was by far the best episode of the season. I thought I was gonna come on here to all raves and be able to say "Welcome the fuck back, Heroes".

Guess I'm crazy. Or possibly with rocket low expectations that almost caused me to stop watching the show after the last few weeks, I just got surprised. But suddenly the rest of the season seems bright. All the characters are coming together, the main plotline is taking form, etc. These introduced characters weren't random at all, the show just took its sweet time showing their place in the season. Things are finally coming together and I love that. This show almost has an overall storyline now! One they're all involved in! That alone makes everything so so much better.

Things I loved:

- Monica is no longer useless. She's the lab rat and should play an important part in the virus kills New York bit.

- Sylar, glasses guy, Molly, I like where that's going. Morality question. Dilemma. It's a conflict and that's good.

- HRG. All the scenes with Ivan, including the finale of it. Wow. Even the Haitain without saying a word was badass.

- Adam. "The Company" taking a villanious form. The mystery of who he is and what its leading to. I like Peter and Irish chick on the trail of him. MYSTERY IS HOW THIS SHOW WORKS. THANK GOD SOME OF IT'S BACK.

- Paintings! Paintings are back! Woohoo. HRG is probably gonna die though.

- Hiro is no longer useless. Time fracture, I'm interested in where that goes. Ando's reactions also amused me for the first time here.

- Nikki's "I'm your partner" and the "oops, went to the future", awesome twists.

- Sylar and M&A were the weakest part of the episode, though I generally like their scenes, so I didn't hate it. Sylar still rocks.

Did I just label every scene in the show? I think so.

I like Heroes again.

The only storyline I liked tonight was the one with HRG + the Haitian in Russia. That's it.

I think I'm gonna stop watching.