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Grill
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Grill wrote: Groucho wrote: Oh, of course, I suppose these same idiots could completely disregard all the evidence and instead point to another irrelevant tangent that wasn't the focus of the thread, but you know, they'd probably be so insanely clueless as to think they'd made a valid point.
I guess they're always good for a laugh at their expense, though. Pathetic, asking a question on how much Obama has raised the debt in a Financial Stability Plan thread, is a great and important question, MR. SO CALLED, THE GREAT DEBATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL! AND THE NUMBERS I USED WERE AFTER 19 MONTHS, WHILE NOW IT IS ABOUT 27 MONTHS....SO NOW HE PROBABLY HAS SPENT MORE THAN ALL PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS BEFORE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANYWAY, HOPE CAIUS PASSES THROUGH AS AT LEAST HE HAS THE BALLS TO ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bump past Argos, the waste.....
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Speevy
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
would it be better if Argos was posting from the toilet, Goldie?
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Argos
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
I always go outside when I interact with Goldie.
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Groucho
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
When I studied political debate and won all those awards in high school and college, I always knew that if all else failed, I could say "Fu you pathetic worthless troll" and then sit down confidentially, knowing that I had won the argument and impressed everyone in attendance.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:48 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Grill wrote: Grill wrote: Groucho wrote: Oh, of course, I suppose these same idiots could completely disregard all the evidence and instead point to another irrelevant tangent that wasn't the focus of the thread, but you know, they'd probably be so insanely clueless as to think they'd made a valid point.
I guess they're always good for a laugh at their expense, though. Pathetic, asking a question on how much Obama has raised the debt in a Financial Stability Plan thread, is a great and important question, MR. SO CALLED, THE GREAT DEBATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!AND THE NUMBERS I USED WERE AFTER 19 MONTHS, WHILE NOW IT IS ABOUT 27 MONTHS....SO NOW HE PROBABLY HAS SPENT MORE THAN ALL PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS BEFORE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!ANYWAY, HOPE CAIUS PASSES THROUGH AS AT LEAST HE HAS THE BALLS TO ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bump past Argos, the waste..... Gotta LOL at that Chicken Sht Groucho, as all he does is brag about how good he is but can't answer a simple question > asking a question on how much Obama has raised the debt in a Financial Stability Plan thread, seems like a very good question.....YUP, WHAT ATURKEY! HOPEFULLY CAIUS WILL CHECK IN AFTER, HE GETS OUT OF HIS STRIP CLUB, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION FAIRLY.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:06 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Grill do you spend more money than the average person did in 1950?
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:00 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Chippy wrote: Grill do you spend more money than the average person did in 1950? yes, and so loser, what is your point...and how does it relate to Obama spending more money, than every President before him, IN TOTAL.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:04 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
If you take the average American from 1776-2008, do you think Glenn Beck spends more than them combined?
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:10 pm |
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Krem
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
:facepalm:
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:22 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
It's about time you posted something here. Cheesh.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:22 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:32 pm |
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Krem
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Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:04 pm Posts: 2035 Location: Citizens Bank Park
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Between Grill's inane comments, Chippo's spam and Mike's cherry-picking facts it's hard to have a coherent argument on the issue.
I will say this: the stimulus has largely proven to be a failure. Yes, the economy is recovering, but it's in spite of the stimulus, not because of it - and it's recovering nowhere near the levels Obama's supersmart economic advisors said it would.
On the other hand, the Tea Party representatives has yet to prove itself as a serious force in budget debates. Unless large cuts in defense spending and largest subsidies are on the table, all this bickering over abortion funding and NPR is smokes and mirrors. Paul Ryan's budget is a start - but even he does not propose running a surplus any time soon. I don't like to predict doomsday scenarios, but unless EVERYONE is serious about cutting spending (including entitlement programs) we're in deep shit.
Also, Paul Krugman is a dishonest man.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:36 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Finally some sense. I agree our economy is on the road to recovery, I don't agree it is because of Obama, but I also don't find the stimulus plan to be a hindrance to the economy. However, unless we increase taxes and decrease social programs for the time being, we will never be able to fix the long term damage the stimulus package will cause. Obama's decision a few months ago (to protect unemployment benefits in order to extend tax cuts for the super rich), in my opinion, will be the worst choice he will make his entire presidency, and I feel it has a good chance of extending for four more years. Hopefully we'll see at least some social progress in his last four years, but I doubt it. The only thing I feel Obama can do do right in his second term is to legalize marijuana, which when he came into office seemed possible, if the people were willing. Well, people are willing, and yet he's has literally laughed it off the table.
I'll probably vote for Obama, simply because I do not want Republicans, certainly not with their current mindset, in the white house. I don't have a problem with them cutting social programs, I do have a problem with the needless cutting of funds to education, research, and to the arts, the former two far more than the latter. Are lack of funding towards research in the 1940s hurt us badly in the long run. We invested into soldiers post-war, a seemingly smart thing to do at the time, warped America into something bad.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:52 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
I only spam to deter Grill from posting.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:59 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
So Chicken shit Groucho, looks like Krem and Darth backed up my point > debt and spending is a major problem.
And Dippy, I compared Presidents to Presidents, and you compare average Americans to Glenn Beck.
Not that I am surprised, as I know you are a retard.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:22 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Glenn Beck is a very average "American"
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:34 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Chippy wrote: Glenn Beck is a very average "American" So Dippy, he makes the average yearly salary of 35,000 a year. .
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:30 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
No, he makes more than that.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:09 am |
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Grill
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Chippy wrote: No, he makes more than that. so thanks for proving me right again...as then he sure isn't average.
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:44 am |
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Chippy
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Yes he is.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:54 pm |
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Grill
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:36 pm |
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Tyler
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
It's not about the budget, really. Ryan's a hack with his own ax to grind. Nobody's willing to do a drastic tax raise on the right people either. Or cut the defense budget by at least half while leaving Afghanistan.
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:38 pm |
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Krem
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Tyler wrote: It's not about the budget, really. Ryan's a hack with his own ax to grind. Nobody's willing to do a drastic tax raise on the right people either. Or cut the defense budget by at least half while leaving Afghanistan. No need to raise taxes if the spending is in check. And spending includes the myriad of deductions that reduce total tax collections.
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:04 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Krem wrote: Tyler wrote: It's not about the budget, really. Ryan's a hack with his own ax to grind. Nobody's willing to do a drastic tax raise on the right people either. Or cut the defense budget by at least half while leaving Afghanistan. No need to raise taxes if the spending is in check. And spending includes the myriad of deductions that reduce total tax collections. and better collection of $ from underground economy......
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:22 pm |
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Tyler
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Re: Financial Stability Plan
Krem wrote: Tyler wrote: It's not about the budget, really. Ryan's a hack with his own ax to grind. Nobody's willing to do a drastic tax raise on the right people either. Or cut the defense budget by at least half while leaving Afghanistan. No need to raise taxes if the spending is in check. And spending includes the myriad of deductions that reduce total tax collections. The spending wasn't in check when it should have been in the last ten years and it won't be. It's a thoroughly starved beast that has been taken over by a sick, diseased system. And the people most responsible will and are usually getting away with it, if not profiting off of it. Plus, it's not just taxes being raised, they're about to be cut (hugely for the wealthy, because I'm sure they'll use it to create jobs). Again. Great, that'll solve the deficit too. I almost wonder if it's deliberate sabotage by many, if not most. I like Taibbi's description of him. Purple nurples in high school? Ha. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/bl ... s-20110407
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