Yeah, it's just stupid for anyone to make judgement before giving justice a chance to deal with it. Any people that loot and riot in this fashion, at this point, are just nobodies.

If this would happen because of injustice it's another story, but rioters acting out just because they see a video without the full context should have no place in society.

Biden has on several occasions denounced the looting and violence. This thing happened under Trump's watch. The current president needed to calm the nation and addressed the injustice in a swift fashion. He did not do that, instead he added fuel to the fire.

It's not a one-off thing, but a culmination of injustice over time that triggered this. I believe good change will come if more people don't turn a blind eye to issues including racial disparity, the culture of gun violence, and police oversight (or a lack of).

All this fear-mongering and talk (screaming) the Trump disciples are going on about, from your rights being taken away or people burning down your house, is something else. Most of the issues are largely from events that have occurred under the Trump Administration that they haven't been able to handle, whether it be blatant attempts to escalate the situation or outright mismanagement/ignoring the problem.

They're effectively painting the America they're supposedly trying to keep "great" (or make great again...again, as Pence said) as a doom and gloom country. I know they're trying to rally their base, but after losing in the TV ratings by nearly 3 million viewers on night one, I think they're going to need more than their base to come out and vote this time. What's Trump's excuse going to be for the RNC losing to the DNC in his beloved TV ratings?

An RNC speaker had to be abruptly removed right before the broadcast for tweeting about a QAnon conspiracy involving jews using the banks to control the world and how every president between Kennedy and Trump has been a slave.

Not sure if that proves my point about the type of people this administration associates themselves with, but it was definitely really funny to read about.

This. Nobody really gives a shit about who these people were (can’t count the numbers of times I’ve heard a Pub call George Floyd a methhead and how he punched a pregnant girl.) It is symbolic of shit that seems to happen every single day. Do I support riots? No, especially during a pandemic. Do I 100% understand why people think they are necessary. Yes, especially because our history and media say that violence is the only way to get things done. So really it’s just on the cops to stop shooting unarmed people (among all the other things.) Ah well, guess that’s too much to ask.

Trying to lump the violent rioters in with the peaceful protesters as one in the same group of people is also just a means to further spread division and racial tensions. And just an attempt at scare tactics politics.

"Activist" Shaun King is saying he'll name drop all the cops at the Kenosha Police Department if they don't release the name of the officer who shot Jacob Blake. And guess what? The vast majority of those the far-right want to label as liberal inciters are coming out strong against him and his hateful speech. Will there be some that support his idea of "Fuck it. No peace." Sure, but they're a very small group of people who obviously don't represent any equality organization. And the left will call people like Shaun King and others out for their actions.

This is what sets the "most" of the left apart from most of the "right". The right will either support violent/hateful messaging, actions, or conspiracies, if someone in a "leadership" role displays their support of it. Or just as worse, fail to denounce that behavior and just ignore it. This is a problem with both sides, definitely, it's just way more prevalent on the right.

Biden needs to come out much much stronger against the violence and rioters it is going to severely hurt him in the polls.

What a trash heap the US is. Disfunctional law enforcement and civil unrest resulting in violent protests, riots, and looting. The pandemic leading to 180k+ deaths and over 15m people still out of work. Raging wildfires in the west. A major hurricane bearing down on the gulf coast that will cause catastrophic flooding. Two political parties warring before an election, causing further division, tension, and hate.

It sure is a good thing we have a president who works hard to bring people together to solve our problems, who prioritizes the safety and health of people ahead of political and financial gain, who doesn't spin the situation to make himself look good while blaming others for his mistakes, and who takes these problems seriously because he knows they're not going to miraculously go away.......

Well it looks like we hit the turning point where armed vigilantes are taking on the mob in place of the police. The Wisconsin governor needs to accept Trump's help now or it's going to get very ugly.

Pretty sure he already asked for federal aid. Trump should give it without turning it political against a dem governor, and Evers should accept aid.

He rejected it yesterday. As a result multiple bodies are on his hands.



Trump could end the riots in a day if the governors in Wisconsin, Oregon, Washington, etc. asked him to.

If state law enforcement is overwhelmed, federal aid should be accepted. Perhaps Evers thought there was sufficient personel to deal. If that's the case, he was wrong. Rioting has to be stopped. The deeper problem though is the incredible built up anger over racial injustice over time. This issue must be dealt with strongly so that rioting and violence in protest is not the reaction.

I don't get why the officer's guns were drawn as he was walking around the SUV. What happened right before that? Why was he entering the vehicle when the police had guns drawn? Could they have thought he was going for a weapon in the vehicle? Would the officer then be in the right to shoot until the threat was incapacitated?

It seems like the rioting happened really fast without a clear picture of what happened in the shooting. Or maybe I missed something.

What makes police violence systemic? Are police taught to be racist in academy or something?

Just as I expected, a bunch of the replies here are some form of "i am not one of these rioters so don't group us together, but what the rioters are doing is justifiable and not as bad as being portrayed, but oh yeah extremists on the far right represent all conservatives".

It's such projection from those who are empathetic with the rioters to assume the Republican voters have similar empathy with Nazis. By nature Republicans voters are less empathetic people (in general), and they're made up loosely of aligned different-minded people that don't relate to each other. For example, the pro-business voters and the Christian bloc of Republicans have very different principles and no affinity with the other group and don't care to cancel one another.

Meanwhile, the radical left impose their belief on all the Democrats, and are intolerant of any moderates who dare speak openly in disagreement. People like JK Rowling, who are liberal on most issues, get cancelled because they deviate on just one topic they disagree with.

Likewise, moderate Democrats are forced to show empathy to the rioters and don't dare openly condemn them to avoid appearing "racist". Murder/arson/destruction/chaos is acceptable to local Democrat mayors who refuse to stop them or accept help of federal troops (as long as antisemitism is not being openly expressed by the anarchists, any other hatefulness from them is considered ok).

Article I just read on yahoo....

President Donald Trump on Tuesday did not appear to be aware of Wisconsin's official response to the ongoing Jacob Blake protests and suggested the governor ought to activate the National Guard, which was already done on Monday.

"Governor should call in the National Guard in Wisconsin," Trump tweeted Tuesday evening. "It is ready, willing, and more than able. End problem FAST!"

Despite Trump's recent suggestion, Democratic Gov. Tony Evers had already activated the National Guard to support local law enforcement at the request of local officials. Evers activated the state's National Guard assets following the protests in the wake of the Jacob Blake shooting.

Yes, Biden could win the election easily if he took a hard stance against the rioters. He'll most of the undecideds and many conservatives if they change their strategy to be tough against them.

Biden should brag about his 1994 crime bill putting a lot of criminals into jail and criticize Trump for pardoning drug peddlers and bank robbers.

Harris should boast about her "top cop" prosecutor and attorney journal background keeping criminals in prison, and double down on what she wrote in her book in 2009 to increase the police presence.

The BLM apologists won't like this, but what other choice do they have, vote for Trump or West instead?

However then they lose the progressives, and the moderate voters aren't guaranteed to come back after Biden supported the riots and hard left policies all this time and then had a change of heart 2 months before the election. It also makes Trump look good as the strongman that ended the violence. Not sure any strategy can save the Democrats now.

It is absolutely astounding to me that Biden is the one being held to the standard that "the violence must stop" right now. He. Is. Not. The. President.

Should the looting and rioting be denounced? Of course. It is the exact opposite of what the peaceful protesters and the people rightfully outraged by yet another instance of police violence against a black man want.

But to somehow make Biden take responsibility for it, when it is literally happening in Trump's America? Unbelievable. Y'all really will do anything to make Trump look like the savior of the people. It's so transparent and gross.

- Qualified immunity.
- A lack of civilian oversight of police (police investigate themselves).
- Hiring practice that allows police with history of misconduct to be re-hired by other districts or that allows people with emotion problems or authoritarian violent tendency to be hired in the first place.
- Militarization pf police
- A lax attitude toward the use of lethal force.
- Harsh enforcement measures in minorities-heavy communities that punish minor offenses and overcrowd prisons.
- A lack of funding (or repurpose of funding) in housing, education, social outreach in those communities.

Regarding police training:

- There should be more training with emphasis on de-escalation and defusing a tense situation.
- There should be emphasis on impartiality while on duty. Wear badges. Do not endorse a political candidate or engage in non-police activities while in uniform. Act professional.

It speaks volumes. Even the Trump supporters and many on the right can't even look to or expect Trump and his administration for leadership right now because there is no leadership.

The willful ignorance is astounding. People know that the rioters are Democrats. Trump has denounced the riots multiple times as do Republicans. People are looking to Biden because they want him to prove he’s not in support of the riots, which as a member of their political party, he very well may be.

Are you assuming the rioters are Democrats because they've been shown to be black, who largely vote Democrat? Or was there a poll taken on the ground last night in Kenosha when the white supremacist, who sat on the front row of one of Trump's rallies earlier this year, shot and killed those two people? How do you know they're Democrats, zwackerm?

Black Lives Matter is a Democrat organization. Why would Republicans be interested in participating in an anti police riot?

Only about 55% of the eligible population votes in the election, I get a feeling 90% of those rioters are non-voters anyway. If one doesn't vote I think you can hardly call them either a Dem or a Rep, however Democrats seem to be strongly in support of the message behind the riots, while Republicans seems to be more strongly against the message behind it.

The Dems geographic is probably just as divided as the whole US, it seems to have started during Obama's second term when many on the left felt O was not doing enough. Where as Republicans at least currently are much more unified and this is obviously helping them in terms of a political message.

In the end the outcome of an election will just come down to moderates and swing voters anyway and I really don't know what they're thinking. My is that feeling the nation's coronavirus response draws them to vote blue, while the matters of BLM and police brutality draws them to vote red.