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 You Know, I Finally Realized Why I Don't Like Obama 
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Post Re: You Know, I Finally Realized Why I Don't Like Obama
i think we can all agree that McCain is who we want as president.


Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:05 am
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(6) to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan.
22 U.S.C.A. § 3301 (2008).

That seems to be the relevant part.


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The larger point is that every US President in my lifetime, has had to sign off on some sort of military action. Iraq, Yugoslavia, Somalia, Beirut, Grenada, Vietnam.

Most of those military actions were bad ideas, so it'd be great if he was more hesitant.


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his (so far) vague positions on the issues.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Doesn't look vague to me.


I mean when he talks/debates. The hope/change message overshadows it. And while Im sure he does have a solid stance on almost all issues, he doesn't come across that way. That, and his Health Care Plan are by biggest issues with him.

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It takes balls to bomb another country. Did I agree with invading Iraq? No. But it took balls. HUGE BALLS. Crazytown balls.

If the world continues to be unstable (which it will), you need a commander in chief who will go to war with Iran or North Korea or China if needed. Or into Africa to clean things up.


So by this measure of a president, you must be a huge Bush supporter and are going to be voting for McCain?


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Post Re: You Know, I Finally Realized Why I Don't Like Obama
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The larger point is that every US President in my lifetime, has had to sign off on some sort of military action. Iraq, Yugoslavia, Somalia, Beirut, Grenada, Vietnam.

It's part of the job and I'm worried Obama isn't up to the task. He needs to surround himself with a strong war cabinet, I'm curious who his SecDef would be.


You're assuming he definitely will beat McCain in the election. If he wins, then you can start talking about this sort of stuff.


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But I mostly don't like his Health Care Plan


The only difference between his plan and Hillary's is that her plan requires you to buy health insurance, and if you can't afford it, your wages will be garnished.

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and his (so far) vague positions on the issues.


His positions are vague only to people who aren't paying attention or who can't bother to go to his website and look at the policies he's planned out in a fair amount of detail.

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And I'm not sure about his Foriegn Policy either.


Every other candidate in the race supports and/or voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq and both Hillary and McCain voted to invade Iran. Uncertainty is an improvement over that. While you're unsure about Obama, you KNOW that Hillary and McCain are incapable of making the right decisions. McCain will always be for more war and Hillary will always cave to the political winds.


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He's a giant pussy.

The president of the free world can't be a pussy. He has to be a fighter, not just a dreamer. I doubt Obama has ever thrown a punch.

I can't help but think of The Simpsons episode where Lisa uses the monkey's paw to create world peace and it horribly backfires.

Hillary is 100x the man Obama is.


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The time you see Hillary waging war is if theres a scandal brewing in the White House again. Wag the Dog!

Its finally nice to see the Hillary supporters showing more of their republican side(just like Hillary) so its much sweeter if they vote for Mccain and lose badly.


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Well, if you want to fight a war with China McCain is best choice.

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Post Re: You Know, I Finally Realized Why I Don't Like Obama
loyalfromlondon wrote:
He's a giant pussy.

The president of the free world can't be a pussy. He has to be a fighter, not just a dreamer. I doubt Obama has ever thrown a punch.

I can't help but think of The Simpsons episode where Lisa uses the monkey's paw to create world peace and it horribly backfires.

Hillary is 100x the man Obama is.


Oh boy.. I agree with you but prepare yourself for the onslaught :whistle:


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Clinton went out as a whiner, crying all the way. Whaaa his flyers, whaaa you asked me the first question, whaaa please please watch SNL. It's really pathetic to see her these days, she makes Obama look very presidential by comparison.


Put out the joint your smoking kid.. She does have a point in her always being the one picked on and asked the 1st questions in these debates and for all intense purposes, Obama DOES get a free ride with the press and is coddled far too much.. That SNL skit was as accurate as it comes and Clinton handled the debate last night far better than he did with answers that show that YES, she does have more experience than him, but the Pop Culture of Obama and today's generation this election is being catered to will ignore this....


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
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He's a fighter who doesn't come across as one, that's his strength. If he were president in the mid 40s, the world would have thought Japan nuked itself. It's awesome.


:hahaha:

If China woke up one day and decided to invade Taiwan, I would much rather have Hillary in office than Barack. No one wants war but sometimes its necessary.

I would say screw Taiwan, a war with China would go Nuclear. The Chinese leaders would be willing to take China down with them. That is exactly why there will never be a war with China.

Also if you want more wars you should vote for McCain, he will probably bring back the draft for you.


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