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Jim Halpert
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 Re: Florida Primary Timayd wrote: Hillary wins, so go her? she gets no delegates
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xiayun
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Re: Florida Primary And all states are assigning proportional delegates on the Dem side, unlike winner-take-all for Rep.
Kennedy's endorsement did have a small effect. 25% said his endorsement is very important, and 58% of them went for Obama. That may have helped to keep Hilary's vote below 50%.
Look like McCain is winning for sure. The exit polls have him winning among males, females, and every age group except for 30-44. They're all within margin of error, but it's unlikely all of them are skewed toward one side.
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Chippy
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Re: Florida Primary I hope Hillary loses...
FOREVER!!!
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Jim Halpert
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Re: Florida Primary Munk·E wrote: I hope Hillary loses...
FOREVER!!! i second that
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neo_wolf
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Re: Florida Primary http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229200?GT1=10755JRepublicans | Polls | County Results John McCain 202,007 34% 0 Mitt Romney 181,816 31% 0 Rudy Giuliani 98,909 17% 0 Mike Huckabee 77,984 13% 0 Ron Paul 19,018 3% 0 Fred Thompson 9,093 2% 0 Duncan Hunter 991 0% 0 19% of precincts reporting Democrats | Polls | County Results Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner Hillary Clinton 252,623 48% 0 Barack Obama 153,993 29% 0 John Edwards 72,142 14% 0 Dennis Kucinich 5,066 1% 0 19% of precincts reporting
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Re: Florida Primary Jim Halpert wrote: Munk·E wrote: I hope Hillary loses...
FOREVER!!! i second that I third that. Go McCain! Romney is the least convincing conservative I have ever witnessed. There is no category of footwear appropriate for describing a man like this.
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Rod
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Re: Florida Primary Romney back up to 33% !!!!
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neo_wolf
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Re: Florida Primary Democrats | Polls | County Results
Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner
Hillary Clinton 305,402 48% 0
Barack Obama 187,971 30% 0
John Edwards 92,820 15% 0
Dennis Kucinich 5,796 1% 0
24% of precincts reporting
Republicans | Polls | County Results
Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner
John McCain 240,602 34% 0
Mitt Romney 218,253 31% 0
Rudy Giuliani 112,521 16% 0
Mike Huckabee 98,520 14% 0
Ron Paul 22,532 3% 0
Fred Thompson 10,427 1% 0
Duncan Hunter 1,159 0% 0
25% of precincts reporting
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Corpse
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Re: Florida Primary Obama is going to have problems in the bigger, more diverse states like Flordia. CNN did a calculation on how he performed in SC (very well all around) and it showed that he wouldn't get more than 1/3 of the total vote on FEB 5th. He really needs to play more to the Whites and Hispanics. He isn't going to win unless he can make significant dents here in the bigger states.
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Corpse
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Re: Florida Primary neo_wolf wrote: Democrats | Polls | County Results
Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner
Hillary Clinton 305,402 48% 0
Barack Obama 187,971 30% 0
John Edwards 92,820 15% 0
Dennis Kucinich 5,796 1% 0
24% of precincts reporting
Republicans | Polls | County Results
Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner
John McCain 240,602 34% 0
Mitt Romney 218,253 31% 0
Rudy Giuliani 112,521 16% 0
Mike Huckabee 98,520 14% 0
Ron Paul 22,532 3% 0
Fred Thompson 10,427 1% 0
Duncan Hunter 1,159 0% 0
25% of precincts reporting  Don't you mean Gravel?_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.”
“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
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xiayun
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Re: Florida Primary CNN's update is faster.
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neo_wolf
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Re: Florida Primary Democrats | Polls | County Results
Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner
Hillary Clinton 346,827 49% 0
Barack Obama 209,938 29% 0
John Edwards 107,025 15% 0
Dennis Kucinich 6,235 1% 0
29% of precincts reporting
Republicans | Polls | County Results
Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner
John McCain 293,780 34% 0
Mitt Romney 284,177 33% 0
Rudy Giuliani 133,247 15% 0
Mike Huckabee 117,365 13% 0
Ron Paul 27,053 3% 0
Fred Thompson 12,184 1% 0
Duncan Hunter 1,307 0% 0
Its going to be real close between McCain and Romney, Recount in store?
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Jonathan
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Re: Florida Primary According to CNN, McCain now has a distance of nearly 20,000 votes. Looking good for him.
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Re: Florida Primary McCain's bagged it. Congratulations, we finally have an inevitable nominee. Who would've thought the Republicans would find theirs first?
Democratic results:
Clinton 0
Obama 0
Edwards 0
Kucinich 0
No delegates. Next!
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Corpse
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Re: Florida Primary Quote: (CNN)  Democratic primary voters in South Carolina who made their presidential pick in the week before voting overwhelmingly chose Barack Obama. In Florida, according to exit polls, those last-minute deciders went for Hillary Clinton.
All the major Democratic candidates had pledged not to campaign in Florida following national party sanctions that rendered the contest irrelevant to the presidential nominating process. None of the candidates have visited, except for private fundraisers, and none have advertised in the state.
But over the past few days, the Clinton campaign called for the Democratic National Committee’s decision not to seat Florida’s delegates at the party’s summer convention to be reversed; announced several major state endorsements, like U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson; and revealed plans for a major election night celebration in the state featuring a visit from Hillary Clinton herself – all factors which may have helped sway late-deciding voters.
EDIT: Wouldn't surprise me if this is brought up even more that Howard Dean (does he make the final decision) and the DNC to eventually cave and award FL at least some delegates. Also, what will voters think of Obama if he gets the nomination now in FL? The Republicans can easily bring up him not fighting to get their delegates counted as a weakness of somekind, and could spell doom in FL?_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.”
“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
"Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Eagle
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Re: Florida Primary I find it interesting to note that the total votes so far are:
Dem: 915,543
Rep: 1,090,173
That's a sizable difference considering Dems make up 41% vs 36% of the voting population.
I suppose this fact is muted by the fact that no Democratic candidates had a get out the vote movement, nor did they campaign or run ads. So I guess that explains it, but I still didn't expect it to be such a large difference.
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Re: Florida Primary 40,000 votes difference now. Time to call it.
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Re: Florida Primary Angela Merkel wrote: Jim Halpert wrote: Munk·E wrote: I hope Hillary loses...
FOREVER!!! i second that I third that. Go McCain! Romney is the least convincing conservative I have ever witnessed. There is no category of footwear appropriate for describing a man like this.i 4th it and  GO McCAIN!!!
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Beeblebrox
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Re: Florida Primary A Hillary win in Florida isn't even a symbolic victory. Not only do the delegates not count, but she's the only one who campaigned at all there, after all the Dem candidates had agreed not to.
The only reason she wants to re-instate the delegates is because she knew she was going to win the vote count. If Obama had won, do you really think she'd be making a big stink about it?
On the Rep side, I hope McCain call put this one out. If it's McCain vs Hillary, at least I get someone who's relatively principled and honest in McCain.
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Re: Florida Primary Fox News reporting that they heard via some TIME political blog that Guiliani will drop out and endorse McCain on Wednesday from California.
They contacted McCain and Guiliani camps and neither would confirm or deny.
The only way I can see this happening is if McCain has a back door deal with Guiliani for the VP spot.
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Re: Florida Primary Beeblebrox wrote: A Hillary win in Florida isn't even a symbolic victory. Not only do the delegates not count, but she's the only one who campaigned at all there, after all the Dem candidates had agreed not to.
The only reason she wants to re-instate the delegates is because she knew she was going to win the vote count. If Obama had won, do you really think she'd be making a big stink about it?
On the Rep side, I hope McCain call put this one out. If it's McCain vs Hillary, at least I get someone who's relatively principled and honest in McCain. Heh, her "victory rally" is flatter than Ally McBeal. Tabloid love!  
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Beeblebrox
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Re: Florida Primary How many delegates in FLA does McCain get if he wins?
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Re: Florida Primary Beeblebrox wrote: How many delegates in FLA does McCain get if he wins? 57
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Re: Florida Primary Beeblebrox wrote: A Hillary win in Florida isn't even a symbolic victory. Not only do the delegates not count, but she's the only one who campaigned at all there, after all the Dem candidates had agreed not to. No one campaigned or spent a single dollar in the state on the Dem side. Hillary just said she thought the delegates should count, and went there after polls closed. McCain gets all of the delegates that count, so 57. _________________
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Re: Florida Primary Eagle wrote: Beeblebrox wrote: A Hillary win in Florida isn't even a symbolic victory. Not only do the delegates not count, but she's the only one who campaigned at all there, after all the Dem candidates had agreed not to. No one campaigned or spent a single dollar in the state on the Dem side. Hillary just said she thought the delegates should count, and went there after polls closed. McCain gets all of the delegates that count, so 57. She publicly argued for Florida's delegation to be seated during the two days before voting, ostensibly as an act of goodwill, getting frequent coverage in Florida media networks. It is not a legal violation of the rules, of course. No Clinton ploys ever violate the laws, other than lying under oath.
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