going back to goldie- I don't have any issues with him apart from the fact that nearly all the posts he starts are there to cause arguments- i.e. the polls and things.... so naturally debates tend to get out of hand when people have strong opinions -as is the case on this site (see all post for examples

maybe if he didn't post so many argumentative things in the first place things wouldn't get so crazy. - I could be wrong though.

LOL...and you didn't see that he attacked me first? You obviously have no intentions on showing a bit of integrity, or you would have shown what I responded to that he said. Here's his comment, and he clearly started on me first.



Next time, don't try to take things out of context that can easily be put back in, because you showed yourself to be somebody of little honor by doing that, and your point was just destroyed in the process.

Back to Goldie, I don't care for him one way or the other, but I also don't treat him like he's an enemy that I need to be shitty with, and we don't ever have any exchanges. His polls and thread don't bother me. If they did, I wouldn't bother reading them. He gets baited a lot, and he also does things to bring it on. Since EVERYBODY doesn't have a problem with him, perhaps he's not the only problem.

I think that Eagle should bring back the ignore feature.

The cons consist of Goldie and maybe 2-3 other people. That hardly outweighs anything. I refuse to let some whining ruin whats a good thing for the site.

Ok. You'd know more about it since I'm sure people talk to you, and future jurors talk to you and all. I had a feeling when people realized the jury panel rotated that they'de be fine with it.

I'd second that ignore feature. It might help a few people out.

Regarding the private forum issue, I'm surprised it's even an issue to begin with. I don't see what the problem is at all with loyal getting a forum for the 'WOKJ Top 100 Quotes' or with Rogue getting one for 'Ultimate Movie Mayhem'. For all the hard work to do, it's hard to interact with the other members of your team through PM, and it's logicial to have a private forum to have all these discussions.

I seriously did not know it was an issue. When the next UMM is launched (sometime later this year?), I'll move all discussion to another site if it will makes things better and prevent this sort of issue in the future?

I know I used it and it made the experience of coming here a much better one. If there are personality clashes, which there is certain to be when you're talking about people who don't know eachother giving opinions from all over the world, and ignore feature can be just the ticket to avoiding some potential tension.

Look at me, I'm part of a clique.

<<grabs a drink in my secret forum>> rink:

muhahahahahaha

Oh Jesus, why do I always miss this shit?

First, is my name only mentioned in Eagle's opening post? That was simply me flipping out due to reasons outside of this forum with my family.

Most people should know that I don't usually engage in a feud with anyone. I like most people here, and I talk to most people who talk normally to me. I talk to Goldie on the forum, and I don't see him as a problem to me. Others see differently. I guess being a Canadian, I tend not to want to fight with anyone. The only person that has ever really rubbed me the wrong way on here is guti, but he sort of disappeared completely.

Just wanted to clear that up. Anyone want to give me a summary of this thread, and what its purpose is? I really don't have the will to read every post.

I formed a clique called Loyalites (like the Pink Ladies, only with more dancing).

Membership is exclusive (no minorities) and our browner members are upset.

FIN

Goddamn it. Trumped by Loyal again. Just when I think I get one-up on the bastard, he beats me again.

*goes back to drawing board*

Edit: And, I'm very proud of my anti-clique, my entourage. Spoofing is fun.

When you PMed me and said you needed my help on figuring out those quotes, I guess I assumed it was for tiebreakers and stuff like that, but I did think it was open to everyone, not just a small group. That said, considering the nature of the thread I can understand why it was a smaller group. Call it me being sloppy and not looking at stuff here carefully, but either way I wasn't aware of that, for clarification's sake. And dude, I respect you a lot man, but saying that if someone doesn't like the forums they can leave is waaaay too Sean Saulsbury for me.

As an outsider - who was one of the few people ever to be banned at this place - I can sympathize. I desperately want to be part of a clique. I repeatedly asked for my own forum, but have been denied every time. I am the geeky kid in the high school cafeteria that sits all by himself and nobody will talk to me. I am all alone. The pain I feel inside is too much to bear and can only be cured when I get my own private forum. I didn't even know about this quote thing that people are talking about as nobody tells me these things. I don't even have an opinion on Goldie because of the emptyness and loniless of not having my own private forum has enveloped me in.

I despise this place. I hate the admins and mods with a passion. Yet I stay here. Sometimes I question whether my life is so worthless that I would actually stay here just to bitch and argue pointlessly about idiotic things. Is my life that empty? Yes. Have I lost that much dignity, or have that many other places banned me so I have no place left to go? Yes and yes.

I could go elsewhere and be happy, but I have decided to stay here and be a cancer on this place. If I am going down, you all are going with me. **



** Sorry... I just wanted to see what this bitching thing was all about and thought I'd give a try. It's actually quite fun. It's a lot more fun than being a active fun member and takes less work!

Did I ever tell everybody how Tony repeatedly PMd me trying to get me to badger the mods and admins into investigating how his friend got my e-mail address because he believed he was lying too?

Incase you didn't know, now you do. That must be Tony's idea of being a productive member...

Maverikk, i wouldnt really have the cheek to complain that the staff adopt favourtism when more often than not they've been on your side. God knows how many times ive been giggling at how your insults to me were ignored in threads - but as soon as i retorded in arguments there would be an admin or mod asking me to "lay off". Honestly it was insanely retarded and everyone saw exactly what was going on.

I mean most of the ideas that people have about the staff slanting towards different people actually sourced from you Mav; many people felt that because you contributed to the website you were being let off with more than you should; myself included.

Im not going to pretend that i feel fairly treated by the staff here - but what i will say is that ive not seen many other users under a similar treatment. Honestly maverikk if your going to dish out opinons in this high and mighty attitude you perhaps shouldn't whine about a treatment that has benifited you substantially as a user here on KJ.

Michael, it's already been explained to you why you kept being told to stop. It was because you kept purposely trying to create an uncomfortable atmosphere between Libs and myself with your comments, and you were asked nicely to stop, but still persisted to keep it up for whatever reason.

Also, you need to drop some names instead of giving stats about how "many people" felt, and how "everyone" saw you were being wronged.

I would love to see these repeated PM's asking you to badger the mods and admins into investigate this. More lies, Larry? I have all of our special PM's... I hold them dear and read them for entertainment.

Clearly you've chosen to be a cancer on this place. I would invite you to examine your life and see if it is really this worthless that you would spend time here - a place you repeatedly said you dislike - to simply argue and disrupt. The only threads you take an active role in are these type of threads. Is your life that devoid of other things going on (I'm not claiming to know, but seriously asking)? Or, do you simply want to bring this place down so far that it would finally join your movie site into the pit of oblivion?

When I got upset with box office mojo, I left and never looked back. I don't have time to waste on things I don't enjoy.

Your constant bitching, your negative nature, repeated lies, your obvious joy in bringing this place down, and lack of ability to ever admit to taking any roll in these problems has made me lose all respect for you.

*puts Mav on ignore list as I have better things to do with my time and won't be sucked into an endless pointless argument that will have no conclusion*

Edit: What happened to ignore button? I have to excersie self control now?!?!? #-o

Tony, you're a liar and a snake, which was exactly why I told you that I would not be "starting over" with you. All you do is try to instigate trouble, and then you try to play the innocent game, and have even admitted to doing that.

I think maybe you should examine your worthless life, and ask yourself why you always are so void of anything important that you involve yourself in business that's not yours. THAT is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. Is life really that empty that you spend your days instigating trouble online and sticking your nose in everybody elses business because it offers more to your pathetic existance than anything you've got?

No it wasn't explained to me Maverikk. I just got sporradic slaps on the wrist with very little justification - a treatment that seems to be the order of the day with the site.

If your mission was to reduce my estimations of the World of KJ and the way its run as well as develop a strong dislike for you in almost no time at all then it was accomplished. Im the only one who even tried to argue with you because everyone else knows that youve got to be the one with the last word in.

You were implying to site members [i dont know how many] that I had a "crush" on Libs which was beyond hillarious at first. But a week on and the implication was still floating around - one person in particular stressed you were serious about it. At which point i felt it appropriate to squash the rumour before it progressed because such implications can make people feel uncomfortable. Im here to have a bit of a laugh and talk movies - not to romance women on the other side of the world who im never going to meet and barely know.

I was asked once to "lay off you about libs" and to be frank i was pretty confused; i hinted maybe twice what everyone else on the site was thinking after your presistent and immature butchering of me continued unchecked. So don't act like you didn't get liberties on this website Mav - because those threads made by anyone else would have been deleted and the user warned a long time ago.

Do you honestly think im going to just "drop names" so you can forge vendettas? I know you think im an idiot, Mav, but im not retarded.

I friggin' hate no ignore button!!!

Yes it is. At least I can admit it is. How about you, Larry?

I am still waiting for those PM's that you accused me or writing Larry... I have to call you out for being a liar until you can back up your accusations. And your lying in this case just proves you are trying to start shit and be a cancer here.

Well, if I would have known I would have needed them, I would have saved them. But, the fact that you once again replied just shows that you have no problems not honoring your word. You never planned on ignoring me, you're just into the drama you can create.

Michael, I explained it to you myself on more than one occassion, and I'm sure people here remember me doing that.



Michael, believe it or not, you've brought a lot of the dislike for yourself on without any help from me or anyone else. Again, you keep using 'everyone". Why don't you try speaking for yourself without feeling the need to give yourself support.



Where did you hear that I started that rumor?



Dude, you have selective amnesia. I couldn't get in a conversation with her without you pointing it out to the whole forum.



I think you've got a lot of bullshit, Michael.

Jesus Christ, do you people EVER stop? It just would not be the first Monday of the month without some ruckus in the Site Forum, would it?

A lot of people hold grudges for far too long. There is such a thing as LETTING GO, but I guess it's not in everyone's best interest to let go. Me and Maverikk had a little argument a few months ago, and I was pissed off at the time. But, I let it go! To make matters better (an expression we don't hear much of around her), I confronted Mav through a PM, to make sure everything was cool. How come EVERYTHING can't be that way?

I know I'm not someone who holds grudges anyway, and I'm in the minority here, but it's frustrating to see so many good people fighting with each other constantly. This shit gets stirred up every so often, and it's really getting to the point where you're losing your dignity (those who I'm talking about know who they are). LET IT GO. Move on. If you can't let it go, move on anyway.

This is why I'm not good at advice. But, I've given the "sugar-coated" advice out before, but to no avail.