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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: few bannings
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_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:31 pm |
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harry713
Future Love
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:05 pm Posts: 4519 Location: The Fame Ball 2009
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 Re: few bannings
Now you are simply trolling while I am simply calling attention to something Nebs obviously missed. Did you forget about this Chip? You just wrote it last night. Quote: Out of respect to Eagle, I'm done fighting with Korrgan/Harry/Zep/Corpse/getluv.
All ignored. That respect Chip, you never had for the people running this site. Ever.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:33 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: few bannings
You're silly.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:34 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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 Re: few bannings
A few more points, not agreeing or disagreeing with any decisions, but, just as the thread reads (Questions or Comments, Please Let Us Know), I will. Quote: 7. Warning/Bannings: Anyone not following the rules/guidelines or not conforming to moderator requests on the boards will be warned. If a member is still not conforming after a reasonable number of warnings (subject to moderator’s discretion), a temporary ban will be placed. Was this even followed over last nights events? Quote: 13. Moderator and Administrator accountability: The site allows the administrators and moderators to exercise a certain amount of power. Having said that, members are encouraged to bring into question a moderator's or an administrator's actions. In such a situation, the administrators and moderators are REQUIRED to provide a good explanation and if this is not to the liking of the members of the forum, an open discussion will take place to see how a compromise between the 2 parties may be reached for that instance and for future reference. This is pretty much what I'm doing, as a member. Not really "questioning" anything, just asking for like it says, a good explanation which is apparently required. Quote: In regards to avatars and signatures though, the above rules do not apply. While a sexual or violent image residing somewhere in a thread is viewed only a few times, an avatar/signature is viewed every time a member posts. Moderators may ask users to take down avatars if it seems inappropriate for viewing in a public environment. Part of Rule 2. Which I could ask about the Zep situation. There doesn't seem to be any rule about having pictures of others in your avi/sig in the rules, I don't know of any. So again, as a member, did any mod/admin ask Zep to take down his avi or sig before banning him without any warnings? Which seem to be given (or so rule 7 says) before any direct warnings at all. Alot of vague decisions is what I'm getting at.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:00 pm |
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:52 pm Posts: 6981 Location: Hockey Town
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 Re: few bannings
quit fucking bitching corpse, nobody gives a shit
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:03 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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 Re: few bannings
I would think people who are banned without a warning, not asked to change what apparently is a problem, etc. might have an issue with it. And would think the typical poster might like to know if forum rules are being followed by not just a user, but by the staff as well.
I don't think that's bitching at all. Calling in "question" is more like it.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:07 pm |
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harry713
Future Love
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:05 pm Posts: 4519 Location: The Fame Ball 2009
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Did you not read her post Jayhawk? It's fairly cut and dry. Nothing to argue about there. She spelled out for staff what they should and need to be doing per their own rules. That's all.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:09 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: few bannings
It's not her site to run.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:12 pm |
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Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Ignorance is not a valid defense, the rules are the rules, regardless of if the user knows them.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:13 pm |
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:52 pm Posts: 6981 Location: Hockey Town
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Corpse wrote: I would think people who are banned without a warning, not asked to change what apparently is a problem, etc. might have an issue with it. And would think the typical poster might like to know if forum rules are being followed by not just a user, but by the staff as well.
I don't think that's bitching at all. Calling in "question" is more like it. when you tell someone they should slit their throat, you should be banned. Period.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:13 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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Nite Owl wrote: Corpse wrote: I would think people who are banned without a warning, not asked to change what apparently is a problem, etc. might have an issue with it. And would think the typical poster might like to know if forum rules are being followed by not just a user, but by the staff as well.
I don't think that's bitching at all. Calling in "question" is more like it. when you tell someone they should slit their throat, you should be banned. Period. Is juju banned?
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:14 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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 Re: few bannings
Eagle wrote: Ignorance is not a valid defense, the rules are the rules, regardless of if the user knows them. That's not a good, required response at all though. Can no one answer each of the points I brought up?
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:15 pm |
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Mr. Lobotomy
Well I'm not stoned, I'm just fucked up - I got so high I can't stand up
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:21 am Posts: 993
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Corpse is right. Zep did nothing against any of the rules so how the hell doest he get banned exactly? What because Shack said so? 
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:17 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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 Re: few bannings
harry713 wrote: Did you not read her post Jayhawk? It's fairly cut and dry. Nothing to argue about there. She spelled out for staff what they should and need to be doing per their own rules. That's all. Not quite. I'm not going to tell others how to do their job. I'm just bringing up the forum rules because they appear to just be there and not taken into consideration, at least they aren't in many cases. Zep being the key character last night. There is no rule even saying you can't have a picture of another user in your avi/sig. And he wasn't warned, asked to take things down, nothing. Instead he was instantly banned. Answers is pretty much all I'm personally asking for.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:19 pm |
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:52 pm Posts: 6981 Location: Hockey Town
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 Re: few bannings
Ev@n wrote: Corpse is right. Zep did nothing against any of the rules so how the hell doest he get banned exactly? What because Shack said so?  go away
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:25 pm |
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Mr. Lobotomy
Well I'm not stoned, I'm just fucked up - I got so high I can't stand up
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:21 am Posts: 993
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Nite Owl wrote: Ev@n wrote: Corpse is right. Zep did nothing against any of the rules so how the hell doest he get banned exactly? What because Shack said so?  go away Well that was intelligent.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:26 pm |
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:52 pm Posts: 6981 Location: Hockey Town
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Ev@n wrote: Nite Owl wrote: Ev@n wrote: Corpse is right. Zep did nothing against any of the rules so how the hell doest he get banned exactly? What because Shack said so?  go away Well that was intelligent. try and get a 3.0 in high school and then get back to me.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:30 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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Corpse wrote: A few more points, not agreeing or disagreeing with any decisions, but, just as the thread reads (Questions or Comments, Please Let Us Know), I will. Quote: 7. Warning/Bannings: Anyone not following the rules/guidelines or not conforming to moderator requests on the boards will be warned. If a member is still not conforming after a reasonable number of warnings (subject to moderator’s discretion), a temporary ban will be placed. Was this even followed over last nights events? Such liberties are not provided to spammers on our site when we ban them. we've banned many bots, people who have advertised or come here to wreck the forum. such a rule is not followed. Zep, as far as i can see, was a person no one knew or cared about. the only impression, at least that he made to me, was him putting up a very offending picture of a member who you may/may not like, a signature that was extremely annoying and posts that are completely frowned upon. Judging by the fact that KJ, surprisingly has a much laxed atmosphere of forums that are actually moderated (whether consistently or not is besides the point), i don't see how anyone is going to sit here pretending that 'oh my god .. i may be breaking some rules'.
I've said this before and i'll say it again. Corpse, you've been here a couple of years and while the 2 of us do not see eye to eye on just about anything, i can still say that you've earned enough to warrant a more lax approach than a person whose posted 3 times and contributed nothing (which is quite evident by the fact that you have, never in the history of this board, ever been banned or warned (i think). You calling someone an idiot will be taken less likely than a complete stranger here. Again, i do not mean to speak for the admins or mods but its general human nature. you give something back, people will turn a blind eye. You will have to do something drastic to be banned outright without a warning. someone like zep i'd say .. not so.Quote: 13. Moderator and Administrator accountability: The site allows the administrators and moderators to exercise a certain amount of power. Having said that, members are encouraged to bring into question a moderator's or an administrator's actions. In such a situation, the administrators and moderators are REQUIRED to provide a good explanation and if this is not to the liking of the members of the forum, an open discussion will take place to see how a compromise between the 2 parties may be reached for that instance and for future reference. This is pretty much what I'm doing, as a member. Not really "questioning" anything, just asking for like it says, a good explanation which is apparently required. The mods and admins haven't said anythign to you yet, asking you to shut up. so i'm not quite sure why you're bringing this up. if other members have an issue, say it to them. quoting the rules to let the admins and mods know when they havne't stated contrary to it is quite irrelevant.Quote: In regards to avatars and signatures though, the above rules do not apply. While a sexual or violent image residing somewhere in a thread is viewed only a few times, an avatar/signature is viewed every time a member posts. Moderators may ask users to take down avatars if it seems inappropriate for viewing in a public environment. Part of Rule 2. Which I could ask about the Zep situation. There doesn't seem to be any rule about having pictures of others in your avi/sig in the rules, I don't know of any. So again, as a member, did any mod/admin ask Zep to take down his avi or sig before banning him without any warnings? Which seem to be given (or so rule 7 says) before any direct warnings at all. Not having their pictures as in the rule is irrelevent. everything will not be spelt out. the forum tells you not to directly attack, then don't. the ofrum has asked many to not do something similar. it has a history. if you're a new member, even if you can't see it, such an unwritten rule based upon past precident will be applied. once again, it goes back to the severity of what the member did. putting up a picture of just chip wouldn't have caused any banning or even a warning. he would have simply been told. however, again, i don't know him, mods don't know him and he calls someone insulting and puts a picture up. sounds like an unneeded troll to me.Alot of vague decisions is what I'm getting at. Nothing here sounds vague to me, pretty consistent. if anything, i'm quite surprised that this person here that no one knows who did nothing but attacked people in his short stay here got a week long ban. should have been banned indefinetely like we do every other troll. if i interpret the rule eagle put forth, this whole temp ban and no perma ban thing was only for community members here.
Finally, i don't quite understand why you seem to be turning this entire thing to something that naturally involves you. no one brought up your picture in this thread yet you feel the need to justify it like it has a bearing on the decision. I'm sure picture or not picture, the person was going to be banned. you keep bringing up your reasons for questioning yet people in a position to answer have neither had the opportunity to answer your questions yet or have done so (whether you were satisfied by the answer or not is a different matter).
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:31 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: few bannings
I had a 4.0!
Yay for me!
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:31 pm |
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Mr. Lobotomy
Well I'm not stoned, I'm just fucked up - I got so high I can't stand up
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:21 am Posts: 993
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Nite Owl wrote: Ev@n wrote: Nite Owl wrote: Ev@n wrote: Corpse is right. Zep did nothing against any of the rules so how the hell doest he get banned exactly? What because Shack said so?  go away Well that was intelligent. try and get a 3.0 in high school and then get back to me. I got a 3.5 last quarter.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:33 pm |
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Argos
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Joined: Sat May 13, 2006 2:20 pm Posts: 7952 Location: Wherever he went, including here, it was against his better judgment.
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I reported several of Korrgan's posts.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:33 pm |
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:52 pm Posts: 6981 Location: Hockey Town
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Ev@n wrote: Nite Owl wrote: Ev@n wrote: Nite Owl wrote: Ev@n wrote: Corpse is right. Zep did nothing against any of the rules so how the hell doest he get banned exactly? What because Shack said so?  go away Well that was intelligent. try and get a 3.0 in high school and then get back to me. I got a 3.5 last quarter. sure ya did scooter
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:36 pm |
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minneapple
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Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:34 pm Posts: 1264
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Argos wrote: I reported several of Korrgan's posts. Did you really?
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:36 pm |
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Argos
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Joined: Sat May 13, 2006 2:20 pm Posts: 7952 Location: Wherever he went, including here, it was against his better judgment.
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minneapple wrote: Argos wrote: I reported several of Korrgan's posts. Did you really? Yes. I loathe her.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:42 pm |
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Mr. Lobotomy
Well I'm not stoned, I'm just fucked up - I got so high I can't stand up
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:21 am Posts: 993
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Why do u hate Korrgan?
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