BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger)
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David
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I don't see it doing great BO. Jake is still a rising star and Heath Ledger just never caught on (THE ORDER, THE FOUR FEATHERS, LORDS OF DOGTOWN). The female stars (Williams, Hathaway, Anna Faris) are all interesting, but none of them are A-listers either. It'll do solidly in limited release, but I just don't see this expanding well. Even if it has tons of Oscar buzz, it'll do a THE INSIDER and still not gain much interest. If THE MISSING, a Ron Howard-directed western thriller starring Tommy Lee Jones, does disappointing numbers, I don't see how a gay western with Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger'll do better.
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MovieDude
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Yeah, although I think it looks intruigin, I doubt it'll be a hit. I showed the poster to someone and the first question was whether or not the tagline was referring to Jake & Heath. When I responded yes, they said they didn't have any interest.
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Keep in mind that this is a gay-themed film. While some of us here who enjoy independent films might check it out, it will have limited appeal to the mainstream public and that is pretty much an accepted fact. It is hard to say right now, but if the marketing campaign is good, it could play fairly well in limited release, but I wouldn't expect more then $5 million tops at this time.
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Michael.
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Hollywood and gayness is retarded.
Ive already heard that this film's been editing out sexually explicit scenes to replace with "longing glances" ala alexander.
Fear not though, all those turned on by Colin Farrell's tiny schlong - its apparently making an appearance in Oliver Stone's vastly "improved" Directors Cut of Alexander.
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This is having a wide release, there is no reason this needs to be in the indie forum 
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Quote: very different backgrounds who meet and fall in love while working together as sheep ranch hands near I'm sorry ... but ..
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Sorry .. I'm passing this one ... it just sounds too ... i better shut up before the thought of that description of the movie makes me laug .... too late
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movies35 wrote: This is having a wide release, there is no reason this needs to be in the indie forum Just deal with it dude. At least they didn't delete it. :wink:
I'm very happy they got Anne Hathaway, and Michelle Williams for this. They are both amazing actresses. Anna Farris is also good, but I don't like the way she looks. Her face bothers me. It just looks really weird.
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 I'm actually quite surprised they're pushing it into wide release. Its will continue the Heath Ledger cusre if they do that. It has limited appeal to general audiances, especially in this country. But the director has a following, as does the content as far as niche groups are concerned. If they kept it below 200 screens and slowly expanded, or travelled the dozens of copies allowing wom to reach cities before the reels do, they'd have more luck holding it in theatres. As it stands, it'll go Lords of Dogtown route and have a low pta opening weekend, and started shedding theatres quicker than bad urban comedies.
Honestly, I think the premesis could be rich. For one thing there is much more awareness of homosexual issues in urban areas, and there is also a horrible stereotype having to do with the effeminate nature of gays. Dealing with figures that for so long have been imprinted in the national nostalgia as bastions of machismo and stoicism being gay is brilliant. It also reminds me about Rock Hudson shock-waves back when he came out and announced he had AIDS.
I'm looking foreward to this movie. But I can smell this botched release from a mile away.
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movies35 wrote: This is having a wide release, there is no reason this needs to be in the indie forum This movie will open limited first. http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4620Quote: Release Date: December 9, 2005 (NY, LA, SF; wider release: December 16)
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The fact that it is being released by Focus is what gets it moved here.
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This sounds great! I love the cast. Gyllenhaal, Hathaway, Faris and Williams are all some of my favorite actors! Plus the poster is really solid as well. I'll definitely be seeing this one.
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/brokeback_mountain/
Pretty decent reception with already 11 reviews in over at rt.
Personally, I want to see this, but have very mixed feelings. It looks to be a bit of a melodrama. Something where had the couple been hetero I'd find the story of denied boring and redundant. However, I do understand that there is going to be the added complexity, and that's why I still think it could be really good. I don't mind a director tapping into previously existing genres to play on expectations.
An aside, knowing Lee, the movie will be more about the landscape than the people anyways. I can say for sure after having seen the trailer that the cinematography looks breathtaking.
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It looks interesting, but I doubt I'll see it in theatres. Not one of my friends wants to see this, so I'll probably check it out on dvd. It's got a cast of young rising stars which will be interesting to watch in a serious drama rather that what they usually appear in.
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Enjoyed the preview, I'll be going to see it...
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dolcevita wrote: An aside, knowing Lee, the movie will be more about the landscape than the people anyways. I'm not sure I agree with that. Ang Lee is very good at character development, and he had experience directing good homosexual movie in The Wedding Banquet. I think Brokeback Mountain will be a lot more about the characters.
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xiayun wrote: dolcevita wrote: An aside, knowing Lee, the movie will be more about the landscape than the people anyways. I'm not sure I agree with that. Ang Lee is very good at character development, and he had experience directing good homosexual movie in The Wedding Banquet. I think Brokeback Mountain will be a lot more about the characters. Hmmmm. I forgot about Banquet. It was actually very good, but it was a "small," movie. The entire film practically takes place in their apartment and a restaurant, and a walk in the park. Lee really focussed on the parents their son, his lover, and the upsatairs neighbor. This seems more grandiose, and along the lines of Crouching Tiger. That's not a bad thing by the way, and landscape playing a big role in the actual narrative is quite smart. Can be a heavy metaphor, and there's no way to avoid it when dealing with, what I guess is a "New" "western."
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BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN 
"It's a mistake to label it a gay cowboy or queer romance, for this love story is universal in appeal, epic in scope like Giant and unabashedly romantic like Wuthering Heights"
-- Emanuel Levy, EMANUELLEVY.COM
"Ang Lee's film is not only a fine and gorgeous Western (in the first act), but an intimate epic love story in the classic Hollywood tradition."
-- Jim Emerson, ROGEREBERT.COM
"Ang Lee's best film to date; career best performances of Ledger and Gyllenhaal, amazing score and cinematography and a heartbreaking love story to boot. One word: Wow."
-- Boyd Van Hoeij, EUROPEANFILMS.NET
"It is up to date in its version of forbidden love because its conflict is based on one of the last socially-sanctioned forms of discrimination."
-- Robert Roten, LARAMIE MOVIE SCOPE
"Brokeback Mountain will appeal to moviegoers who enjoy grand filmmaking and poignant love stories, whether gay, hetero or otherwise."
-- Ray Bennett, HOLLYWOOD REPORTER
"The fine details of the West are as precise as you would expect from a McMurtry piece, and Lee's adroitness with the excellent cast is on full display, particularly in the brave and moving performances of Ledger and Gyllenhaal."
-- Ray Bennett, HOLLYWOOD REPORTER
"This ostensible gay Western is marked by a heightened degree of sensitivity and tact, as well as an outstanding performance from Heath Ledger."
-- VARIETY
"A work of considerable sensitivity and understanding which, from Annie Proulx's novel to Ang Lee's final edit, speaks well of the fine pedigree of creative talent involved."
-- Jules Brenner (FC), CINEMA SIGNALS
"Ang Lee has managed to make gay film that isn't queeny and should appeal to larger audiences."
-- Stefan Halley, HERO REALM
"Brokeback Mountain is that rare thing, a big Hollywood weeper with a beautiful ache at its center. It's a modern-age Western that turns into a quietly revolutionary love story."
-- Owen Gleiberman, ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY
"Explores the heartache of two Western cowboys whose forbidden love for each other can only be expressed in secret."
-- Frederic and Mary Ann Brussat, SPIRITUALITY AND HEALTH
"All four central cast members have moments of transparency that shake us to the core."
-- Rich Cline, SHADOWS ON THE WALL
"a work of universal substance, earning its heartbreak every step of the way."
-- David Thomas, FILMCRITIC.COM
"Ang Lee's unmissable and unforgettable Brokeback Mountain hits you like a shot in the heart. It's a landmark film and a triumph for Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal."
-- Peter Travers, ROLLING STONE
Plot:
From Academy Award-winning filmmaker Ang Lee comes an epic American love story, based on the short story by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Annie Proulx and adapted for the screen by the team of Pulitzer Prize-winning author Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana. Set against the sweeping vistas of Wyoming and Texas, the film tells the story of two young men – a ranch-hand and a rodeo cowboy – who meet in the summer of 1963, and unexpectedly forge a lifelong connection, one whose complications, joys and tragedies provide a testament to the endurance and power of love. Early one morning in Signal, Wyoming, Ennis del Mar (Heath Ledger) and Jack Twist (Jake Gyllenhaal) meet while lining up for employment with local rancher Joe Aguirre (Randy Quaid). The world which Ennis and Jack have been born into is at once changing rapidly and yet scarcely evolving. Both young men seem certain of their set places in the heartland – obtaining steady work, marrying and raising a family – and yet hunger for something beyond what they can articulate. When Aguirre dispatches them to work as sheepherders up on the majestic Brokeback Mountain, they gravitate towards camaraderie and then a deeper intimacy. At summer's end, the two must come down from Brokeback and part ways. Remaining in Wyoming, Ennis weds his sweetheart Alma (Michelle Williams), with whom he will have two daughters as he ekes out a living. Jack, in Texas, catches the eye of a rodeo queen, Lureen Newsome (Anne Hathaway). Their courtship and marriage result in a son, as well as jobs in her father's business. Four years pass. One day, Alma brings Ennis a postcard from Jack, who is en route to visit Wyoming. Ennis waits expectantly for his friend, and when Jack at last arrives, in just one moment it is clear that the passage of time has only strengthened the men's attachment. In the years that follow, Ennis and Jack struggle to keep their secret bond alive. They meet up several times annually. Even when they are apart, they face the eternal questions of fidelity, commitment and trust. Ultimately, the one constant in their lives is a force of nature – love.
Genre: Drama/Romance/Western
Running Time: 2 hrs. 14 min.
Release Date: December 9th, 2005 (NY/LA/SF), expands to other cities at later dates.
MPAA Rating: R for sexuality, nudity, language and some violence.
Starring: Jake Gyllenhaal, Heath Ledger, Michelle Williams, Anne Hathaway, Randy Quaid, Anna Faris
Directed by: Ang Lee
Produced by: Michael Costigan, Michael Hausman, Larry McMurtry
Released by: Focus Features
I remember hearing rumors early in the filming of “Brokeback Mountain†about how they planned on toning the film down and having it not be explicit like the story it’s based on, which really worried me. I didn’t want them to make another toned down gay love story; I wanted to finally see a gay film with some balls (no pun intended) that would say “the hell with what people think†and not tone its content down for the sake of not wanting to offend people. If it makes some people uncomfortable then good, because until they are forced to face their prejudices only then can they get over them. Seeing two guys passionately kiss in a movie, or especially have real, raw sex is definitely something you don’t see often, which is one reason why it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. But if people start seeing stuff like this in movies/real life then eventually it won’t be so shocking and won’t even be a big deal anymore. Thankfully these rumors ended up being wrong and the movie isn’t supposed to shy away from the sexuality.
One thing that originally got me interested was the cast, mostly Michelle Williams and my personal favorite actress, Anna Faris. When I read Anna got a role in the movie I could have pinched myself I was so sure I was dreaming. I know it’s just a supporting role, but just her being involved makes me happy. I hope she is actually given something to do in it and has a chance to shine. Obviously Michelle Williams will have more of a chance though. She was always my favorite of the people on “Dawson’s Creek†and I found her highly talented, yet she seemed to really fly under the radar and is an underrated actress. Now with “Brokeback Mountain†she looks like she’ll be given her break and her performance seems like it will make people sit up and take notice of her. I’m very excited that she has a really good chance at getting a “Best Supporting Actress†Academy Award nomination, and quite possibly win. I think she’ll be terrific here, and from what I’ve heard she is.
After seeing the trailer and hearing all of the rave early reviews it got from film festivals and professional critics that have seen it my expectations have quickly risen and I’m now expecting this to be an amazing film. The awards buzz is incredible and I’m sure it will receive nominations for Best Film, Best Director, Best Actor (Heath Ledger), and Best Supporting Actress (Michelle Williams). This is a major contender for the Oscars this year and something like this winning would be an amazing step for the gay community. Forget that the movie is about two guys who carry on a long affair even while married, it’s still supposed to be really touching and you’ll be able to understand why it happens and not hate them for it, but at the same time it’s not supposed to be one-sided and will show how it hurts their wives as well. In one of this year’s issues of Entertainment Weekly movie reviewer Owen Gleiberman said that it could turn out to be the most revolutionary movie of the year. He says "Brokeback Mountain is a film in which love feels almost as if it were being invented, yet at a moment when issues of equality in gay and straight relationships have become fuel for a fiery culture war, it is also the rare crowd-pleaser with the potential to change hearts and minds." With the big debate on gay marriage and whether or not gay relationships are equal to straight relationships a movie like this coming along and actually winning awards and being a hit could be a big step forward for gay people. I’m really rooting for it. It seems like the most important film of the year and it should also be the most controversial. Besides being a major step forward for our society the success of this film could and should also open up a door for more gay films to be made. The ones that are released are usually low-budget efforts from small studios that get really limited releases in the big cities, and then when they do come to DVD most of the video stores don’t receive them, other than ones in big cities. Bigger studios don’t want to make them and dish out money for them because it’s too risky for them, but this could help change that and maybe we’ll actually start seeing quality gay films released.
I’ve heard about the snickers that people make when the trailer for “Brokeback Mountain†shows in theaters and the anti-gay slurs that are shouted, and it’s really upsetting, but that’s why it’s important for an actual serious gay film such as this to come out and get the exposure it will get. If this didn’t have amazing reviews behind it and awards buzz there is absolutely no way in hell a movie like this would ever see a wide release or that I would ever get a chance to see it in a theater within an hour or two of me. However, because of the obvious award nominations it will receive and hopefully wins, I am sure this will eventually come to my theater. It will take a while and likely won’t be until just before the Oscars air or after they air, but I’m sure it will be coming, and I’m sure I will be going the first weekend it plays at the theater an hour from me. I cannot wait either. The only thing I dread is having to hear all of the negative remarks made by the Christian right and all of the other anti-gay people, and they are sure to come. My dad listens to those obnoxious religious channels whenever he’s home and there is no way they won’t be complaining about this “abomination†of a film non-stop. This will be a huge reason for them to bring out their anti-gay guns. Hell, in early 2005 they were warning people not to see “Million Dollar Baby†and ruining the ending for them to get them to stay away, and that movie wasn’t even a big deal content-wise, especially compared to this. A gay romance receiving such attention and award consideration is going to fill them with rage for sure. I’m really not looking forward to that and no doubt I’ll have to hear some of the things they say because my dad will have the TV on so if I just go out into the living room or to the kitchen I will hear it, and this will make me really upset, but I won’t be able to avoid this and know it’s coming for sure.
It has been a pretty lackluster year for movies and I’ve only seen a couple of really great ones. Of the ones I know of but haven’t seen yet I don’t expect any to be really amazing, except for this one, so I think I can safely say that this will likely end up being my #1 film of the year. The film, with its story, performances, gorgeous cinematography, etc... seems simply beautiful and breathtaking.
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kypade
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You lost me after the third critic blurb...
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that movie is gay.
No, it actually is.
It's about gay cowboys.
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kypade wrote: You lost me after the third critic blurb... *coughlosercough*
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kypade wrote: You lost me after the third critic blurb... It's not like you have to read them.
Anyway, it must suck that reading is so hard for you.
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Probably better suited here.
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kypade
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movies35 wrote: :roll: *coughlosercough* don't you mean ":roll: *cough LOSERcough* "
seriously, though, hardly any reason to get defensive and eye-rolly...it was just a comment on the format of the review, nothing about the reviewer, the movie, or the quality of any of those three things.
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I won a free pass for a sneak preview next Thursday, the day before it debuts in NYC and LA. But I have to work.
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