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BK
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Re: No Black People
Algren wrote: They split acting into male and female, why not split it also by race and sexual persuasion? Best Black Gay Actor Best Black Gay Actress Best Asian Straight Actor etc. The Oscar ceremony would last three days. Not enough mate. Best Black Transgender Muslim Geriatric Male Extra needs to be a thing. Or perhaps, Best Tennessee Black... Might as well get a company in China to send Oscar statuettes to every household in America.
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:46 am |
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Algren
now we know
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Re: No Black People
Ha.
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:57 am |
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Chippy
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Re: No Black People
They didn't "split" acting into male/female. It's always been that way.
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:46 am |
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Loyal
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Re: No Black People
I do find comparisons between NBA players and AMPAS members interesting because both groups are racially homogeneous. But the key difference between the two is that NBA players have a measurable talent that supersedes any presumed bias.
Meaning you can be a poor black kid from Detroit or a rich white kid from Connecticut or a random tall kid from China and if the stats are comparable, you have an equal chance of being recruited by a NBA team. It's all about the talent.
Talent is just one of many criteria in determining AMPAS membership. You could even argue that talent isn't even the primary criteria in determining AMPAS membership.
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:40 pm |
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Algren
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Re: No Black People
Chippy wrote: They didn't "split" acting into male/female. It's always been that way. There had to have been a beginning, and there was when the decision to split it took place.
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:29 pm |
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i.hope
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Re: No Black People
Loyal wrote: Talent is just one of many criteria in determining AMPAS membership. You could even argue that talent isn't even the primary criteria in determining AMPAS membership.
Let's pretend it is. Because the Academy is... the Academy, the only gate to heaven.
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Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:15 pm |
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Loyal
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Re: No Black People
There's talk of bringing back the Black Oscars Quote: The annual event was launched in 1981 at a time when the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences rarely recognized black achievements. By that time, only 27 African Americans had been nominated in the 52-year history of the Oscars, with only three winning. The Tree of Life Awards ended in 2007. Quote: With eight black actors nominated for the 2007 awards show, the Friends of the Black Oscars decided it was time to retire the ceremony. Jennifer Hudson, sound mixer Willie D. Burton and Forest Whitaker secured Oscars that year. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/mo ... story.html
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:12 am |
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Loyal
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Re: No Black People
An interview with the Coens about diversity in casting. Quote: I asked the Coens to respond to criticisms that there aren’t more minority characters in the film. In other words, why is #HailCaesarSoWhite?
“Why would there be?” countered Joel Coen. “I don’t understand the question. No—I understand that you’re asking the question, I don’t understand where the question comes from.
“Not why people want more diversity—why they would single out a particular movie and say, ‘Why aren’t there black or Chinese or Martians in this movie? What’s going on?’ That’s the question I don’t understand. The person who asks that question has to come in the room and explain it to me.”
As filmmakers, is it important or not important to consciously factor in concerns like diversity, I asked.
“Not in the least!” Ethan answered. “It’s important to tell the story you’re telling in the right way, which might involve black people or people of whatever heritage or ethnicity—or it might not.”
“It’s an absolute, absurd misunderstanding of how things get made to single out any particular story and say, ‘Why aren’t there this, that, or the other thing?’” added Joel. “It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of how stories are written. So you have to start there and say, ‘You don’t know what you’re talking about.’”
He continued: “You don’t sit down and write a story and say, ‘I’m going to write a story that involves four black people, three Jews, and a dog,’—right? That’s not how stories get written. If you don’t understand that, you don’t understand anything about how stories get written and you don’t realize that the question you’re asking is idiotic. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... rtant.html
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Rev
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Re: No Black People
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:01 am |
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Algren
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Re: No Black People
It's such a sexist cover.
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Alex Y.
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Re: No Black People
even though there were no blacks in The Revenant, by having high representation of Native Americans, PR-wise The Revenant may be deemed a more racially acceptable winner than the all-white The Big Short and Spotlight.
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:56 pm |
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Loyal
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Re: No Black People
A film written, shot, and directed by Mexicans, featuring a storyline that highlights the plight of indigenous people might just be what the AMPAS needs in a year of #OscarsSoWhite2.0
^That could be the Oscar winning narrative of 2015.
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:07 pm |
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Algren
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Re: No Black People
But Leonardo DiCaprio is the face of the film, so I doubt it.
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Webslinger
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Re: No Black People
Algren wrote: But Leonardo DiCaprio is the face of the film, so I doubt it. Even better. A white man who nobly stands by his Native American family, avenges the death of his Native son, and gets the admiration of Native people for his actions.
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:57 pm |
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Algren
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Re: No Black People
lol. You're clutching at straws now. There's no way the Academy or anyone will look at it like that. It'll basically be seen as another non-black film winning everything. Native Americans are not the ones creating a fuss.
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:44 pm |
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Algren
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Re: No Black People
If you check the ballots of black Academy members, I bet my house that it is made up of 90% black nominees. Is that the diversity we're striving for?
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:32 am |
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Loyal
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Re: No Black People
Oscar Luncheon tidbits Quote: They agreed that it’s crucial for the entire film industry to attain inclusion, but there is also room to celebrate the great film work of 2015, which been somewhat overshadowed in the past month. Or, as Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences’ president Cheryl Boone Isaacs said in addressing the luncheon crowd: “This year, there’s an elephant in the room. I have asked the elephant to leave.” Quote: Sylvester Stallone said he asked “Creed” director Ryan Coogler if he should boycott the Oscars, emphasizing that Coogler is the reason he received a nomination. “I said, ‘If you want me to go I’ll go, if you don’t, I won’t.’ And he goes, ‘No we want you to go.’ That’s the kind of guy he is,” Stallone said.
“I do believe that things will change — it’s just a matter of time,” Stallone said. “Eventually all talent will rise to the top. It’s just a matter of getting, I guess, a new paradigm, a new way of thinking.” Quote: This year’s Oscar show “will be the most diverse ever,” producer David Hill told Variety on Monday at the Oscar nominees luncheon. Despite the lack of acting nominees of color — which the Academy has no control over — Hill and fellow Academy Awards producer Reginald Hudlin have been working since September to make sure the Oscars “will have true diversity and will represent what the world looks like.” http://variety.com/2016/film/news/oscar ... 201699589/
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:00 am |
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Algren
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Re: No Black People
Yay, forced diversity!
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:05 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: No Black People
Stallone still working those Oscar chances hard.
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:10 am |
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Algren
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Re: No Black People
Yeah, I honestly don't get him sometimes. I guess he feels that #diversity is a stronger side to be on at the moment.
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:42 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: No Black People
In the context of the Oscars, it is.
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:39 pm |
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Algren
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Re: No Black People
Still, disrespecting the Academy by saying that attending isn't his priority right now, is just stupid. If I were an Academy voter (and not a Sly fan) I would be thinking "oh ok, so perhaps you won't want the statuette then, perhaps I'll vote for Rylance instead".
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:26 pm |
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BK
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Re: No Black People
lol blacks still making stupid fuss about it all.
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Shack
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Re: No Black People
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:13 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: No Black People
Algren wrote: Still, disrespecting the Academy by saying that attending isn't his priority right now, is just stupid. If I were an Academy voter (and not a Sly fan) I would be thinking "oh ok, so perhaps you won't want the statuette then, perhaps I'll vote for Rylance instead". No, if you were an Oscar voter, you'd just see it for what it is: a play for the Oscar.
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