Admittedly, the Hulk's cgi "Tom Cruise" hairdo, sways around in the breeze real nice...

You can't really believe what you're saying, can you?



I don't think it's as good as CGI gets, but each freakin' tentacle has its own personality and his face covers every emotion throughout the two movies.



He's big. He's green. He's angry. He's nothing else.

The 2008 Hulk is good CGI-work, but I can guarantee that it won't pick up an Oscar nomination for VFX, and I can tell you that it won't just be because "everyone is being a bitch because they didn't like Ang Lee's Hulk and can't move on"

The Hulk was big, green, and angry, and nothing else?

billybob, how about watching the film before trying to discuss it. If you claim that you did, then I can only wonder how bad your attention span is.

stfu Maverick. You're too blinded by your fanboyism.

When you display the intelligence to spell, I'll start worrying about the little tough guy sitting behind the safety of his computer.

You obviously haven't seen it, either.

I have seen it (my review is in the crowd reports thread), and though the CGI is good, it's definitely not as good as the Davy Jones work. Davy Jones was a bigger achievement in facial and bodily expressions, and looked more like a part of his world than Hulk does.

And here's said review, from Saturday's crowd report thread:

Right off the bat, I did not like this one as much as its 2003 predecessor. I felt that film had a better story, the actors had better handles on their roles, and it managed to have me more intellectually involved in the proceedings. But that being said, The Incredible Hulk is very solid summer entertainment, and taken in such a different direction that it's tough to draw direct piece-by-piece comparisons with Ang Lee's film. Edward Norton proves to be an excellent choice for the role of Bruce Banner, giving us a hero to cheer for. But apart from his role and Tim Blake Nelson's brief role as "Mr. Blue," this isn't an actor's movie. (Though Tim Roth, Liv Tyler, and William Hurt are adequate in their roles.) Instead, it's all about moving the story forward and filling the screen with action; both of which are done very well. The film accomplishes a lot of storytelling in the course of 114 minutes, as it moves at a breakneck pace. The big action pieces (chase through the Brazilian city, the university attack, and the climactic Hulk/Abomination showdown) impress as much as any big effects-driven showdowns in recent superhero films. Could it have been better? Definitely. (I imagine Norton's ideas for the film may have encompassed clearer explanations of how a few things happen, not to mention more development and backstory of the rocky father-daughter relationship between General Ross and Betty.) But as it is, Incredible Hulk is pretty solid summer entertainment, and the door is left wide open for a sequel that will hopefully improve upon this already solid offering.

Grade: B+

I've seen Incredible Hulk 5 times. I'll go with that.

These two critics get it.

http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenav ... ubsec=5776

Richard Roeper does get on the studio for giving away the Tony Stark cameo. "Why do that?" he says... d'uh.

If your going to hang your hat on that sequence as being the most realistic CGI work ever done then your version of quality CGI and the rest of the worlds are very far apart. In that scene Betty looked as if SHE didn't belong in the shot. She looked like the weatherman on the local news just a whole lot worse. If you read my entire response I did credit the scenes/shots where I felt the CGI was good. But you like Mav are so blinded by your love for all things big and green, you have become unable to accept valid critiques of the film. It's not nitpicking to expect the same quality of CGI work throughout the same movie. Hulk's CGI was so hit and miss it was bordering on pathetic.

Mav
Thanks for supporting your local theatre, just make sure you spend lots of money at the snackbar while you're there.

On par with Iron Man. A good fun.

B+

I voted a B, with my grade for it being A-/B+. After watching the '03 Hulk last night for the first time since it came out, I'm inclined to drop the B+ and stick with just an A-.

Having seen the two movies one night after another, it was easy to compare and contrast. I didn't like the origin story in the '03 movie; too hokey for me. The whole daddy issue thing was just, yech. I also didn't like the weird boxes they used to try and make it look like a comic book; it was incredibly annoying... This is a MOVIE, not a comic book! The only thing I really liked about the '03 movie upon my re-watching was Jennifer Connelly's portrayal of Betty and ILM's work on the Hulk.

I liked everything about TIH, with a few exceptions. Ed Norton was awesome as Bruce. The action was great; far more exciting than the '03 film (and speaking of, I HATED that whole leaping thing in the '03 movie--he looked like a freaking giant toad; way too unbelievable). I will agree that there needed to be a bit more angst, and I look forward to the director's cut. But I really didn't get much more angst out of the '03 film than this one....

The exceptions I have with TIH are few. I liked the chase scenes in Brazil (I *adore* Brazil's architecture!), but for me, it suffered a bit from shaky-cam syndrome; it had me a bit dizzy. Jennifer Connelly definitely was the better Betty. Liv Tyler's a good actress, but sometimes I just can't see her as whatever character she's playing more than just her being Liv Tyler.

And I have to say that while the physics of the CGI in TIH were better, ILM's work on the skin textures of the '03 Hulk were definitely better.

So, for me, my ultimate Hulk film would be to take the '08 film, add whatever scenes were deleted, change out Liv Tyler for Jennifer Connelly, and hire ILM for the graphics.

So, I liked this film, but it just didn't quite reach Iron Man for me, though it was far better storywise and action-wise than the '03 movie. I have to admit that I was almost more excited about the Tony Stark cameo than anything else in this film. LOL I found myself on the edge of my seat waiting for him to show up (and of course, it had to be at the very end!).

I know nothing about comic books. I view comic-based films from the viewpoint of it being simply a movie with no background besides what I'm seeing and hearing on-screen. And thus far, Iron Man is my absolutely favorite of all the comic-based films I've seen. I think I'd put the '08 Hulk as my second favorite. I liked the Fantastic Four movies, as well as the X-Men films. I haven't seen Batman Begins, but plan to watch it tonight (gotta see it before Dark Knight comes out, which I'm really wanting to see). I personally liked Daredevil, and I really want to see the Director's Cut (which I've heard is pretty good). I didn't like Spider-Man, and therefore have not seen the second or third films. I liked the '03 Hulk when I first saw it, but didn't have anything much to compare it to; now that I have many more to compare, it's probably my second-least favorite (with Spidey being my least). I haven't seen Superman Returns and I'm not sure if I'll ever be bored enough to watch it.

Anyway, I'm rambling. So, in conclusion, Stan Lee rocks, and Iron Man is the best comic-based movie I've ever seen, with this new Hulk in a fairly close second.

Bring on the sequels!

Joy

Tina, after that review, your stock as coolest chick at the KJ forums is rising!

Let's not get to crazy here

Think what you want. No one cares.

The comic look for the '03 Hulk was one of the most innovative things done in a film.

It was WONDERFUL.

I liked Hulk 03 more.

...and you're not?

^Misattributed quote (Waker of Winds wouldn't say that)...

I dont see too big of a problem here between people debating here. Waker's STFU comment was uncalled for here and make sure you watch your tone next time. You can argue and debate with him but not in that context. Other than that carry on like fanboys

^ I don't like your attitude either.

you gone and done did it now.

All you people should STFU and eat some apple pie.

Saying that to an admin is never a good idea.

I don't like roid's attitude!!!