So what are you saying, everyone else in the forum that loved/liked the movie has an invalid opinion? And yours is the only correct one?

Besides Jack and Barbosa, every single character is better in this one than in the first. Will doesn't make you groan everytime you see him as he's actually given an interesting story. Sure there's a lot of build up but it all leads to a fantastic climax. It's all just opinion though. You like what you like, there's no changing that.

This very much surprised me in how much I enjoyed it. Once the film found its footing after the lame-ish first 15 minutes, it took the ball and just went running through the minefield of a plot. It was just as (Possibly more) crowded as the second, but twice as entertaining, and very close to the first. Again, I'm shocked by how much fun I had. And while I was hoping for a fleet vs. fleet final battle, that one on one Black Pearl vs. Flying Dutchman was fucking EPIC. Wonderful entertainment.

***1/2

The edge of the world, Shipwrecks Cove, the maelstrom battle...the only thing from Dead Man's Chest that even tops any of that would have to be The Flying Dutchman. You can SEE the $250 million in this film, and I loved that.

I'll hold out on the insults until I see the movie. But beware: If I like this film, I shall call you an over-opinionated dumb fuck with a stick up your ass that's big enough to please Richard Simmons.

That's certainly not insulting

another thing.

How much did Disney pay the MPAA? This movie was seriously R worthy.

I didn't think it was much worse than DMC, which had a guy's eye get pecked out by a crow. Though Davy Jones killing Beckett's henchman with his tentacle beard was pretty nasty and got plenty of 'ewwwws' from the crowd.

It can overwhelm you with ease, that for sure. SOOO much going on in the story, it can be very easy to get lost or confused during it. But, since you CAN understand what is going on if you pay attention, I was fine with all of it. I do wish more detail was given on the first Brethern Court and Calypso/Jones story though. It took awhile to get going for me, pretty much until they got to Davy Jones Locker. I liked Davy Jones characer much more in this one. You get to see all sides of his character, not just the cruel Death Dealing Pirate seen in DMC. I'm glad Tia Dalma was given alot more screen time, I really like her character. There isn't as much Jack this time around though, but it wasnt too much of a disappoiting factor for me. I do wish Sao Feng was given more time, and I didn't like his death all that well. I saw a toy at wal-mart of some Chinese Dragon Cannon that came with Sao Feng, so I was expecting him to use this during the film, but I didn't see it once. The movie is pretty good until it gets to the Big Battle. Then it gets REALLY good. That battle alone guarentee's the film the Oscar for F/X this year with ease. I've had a thing for Whirlpools since the Little Mermaid, so that also helped out a bit. I really enjoyed the ending most of all (Battle and the ending, ending.) Jones' death scene was also very good, though I was actually hoping he'd survive the movie somehow, even though that was not going to happen. I liked how Jack saved Will from dying. I have mixed feelings on the Eliz/Will part of the story at the end though. Yes, they can still see each other, but since Will is immortal now and all, can't step on land (the 10 yr deal), and all, it's just..I dont know. Hard to explain. Overall, it took a while to get going, but stayed steady through most of the film, then ended with a bang. YOU MUST STAY AFTER THE CREDITS!!!!

B+

The scene after the credits was really sweet and provided good closure to the characters of Elizabeth and Will.

Well they start the movie by hanging about 30 people. Then we see a bullet wound in a woman's head. Plenty of people get swords run through them. And most of it was man killing man unlike Lord of the Rings.

Movies have gotten R ratings for a lot less.

I dunno who you are, Barricade, but youre insane. This one has everything the first has and most of the time it's better. It's more epic, it's funnier, it's more human, it's certainly more pleasing visually (like, wtf r u on mang). More intense, interesting, ingaging (:O). The score is better, the characters are better. I think you are just on crack. Crack kills, man.

Yeah, I'm staying out of this debate.

Without a doubt I think the first one is better then the other two, but I but Worlds End above Dead Mans Chest.

COTBP
AWE
DMC

A-

Very very good. It started off slow and I'll have to rewatch it because I was dosing off a little due to lack of sleep, but about 45 minutes in it started getting really good. The climax was amazing. I loved the wedding.

Oh, and there is so going to be a 4th.

go fuck your self.

Hm. How conflicting. It was very entertaining. VERY entertaining, and I think overall WOM will be positive and reflect that.

I was disappointed in the slow pace into the movie. The entirity of the second movie leads up to Jack's death. Then his rescue all felt a bit too easy. There was conflict to get Chow Yun Fat's character to go with it, and the fall over the waterfall, but really, there just wasn't any substance to it. There really wasn't a rescue (go go crabrocks?) and the return was quite boring until the actual flip. All that took 45 minutes...some tighter writing and better editing could have cut that down significantly and achieved more in that amount of time.

Whoever said that Barbossa lost his pizazz in this one was right. Maybe it's simply the fact that he lost the status of the villain and became another anti-hero, so his actions were seen in a completely different light. However, it's not just that. The whole way he moves and carries himself just seems too flat. They really didn't add much to him in this one. Ditto for Davey Jones. The lack of screentime was really a hindrance for him. I got a good chuckle when he hit the tea out of Turner's hands.

The storyline in general was easy to follow. I don't get the complaints about complicated story. It was thorough, but complicated? Not so much. Overall, though, it simply didn't provide the type of closure I was expecting. They tried to include too much new story while resolving the old. That's why the Will/Liz story felt shunted. That's why Will's promise to save his father felt shunted. Norrington's redemption was completely done wrong. The more I think about it, the more I question the choices made in the screenwriting. I think a lot of the things done or brought up in AWE should have been introduced in the (comparitively empty) DMC. The personal conflicts felt completely shallow when they ended. Sparrow and Beckett? Please. Will and Jones? Bah. Will and Elizabeth? Nada. Jack and Elizabeth? Meh. Jack and Barbossa? The constant feud between true captianship of the Pearl was entertaining, but it seems as though they completely ignored their entire history set-up in CotBP. Overall it felt like there was simply too little closure or attention after the freaking amazing set-up of DMC. For everything. Davey Jones, Beckett, Barbossa, redemption, freedom,

The visual effects were incredible. The first shot with the Dutchman coming out of the water was GORGEOUS! The best part is that during the post-production, the VFX could really be tight; they didn't have to worry about models for anything major. They already had everything worked out for the Dutchman, the Kraken, Davey Jones, the Black Pearl, water physics, etc.

The score was quite fantastic. I'll reserve judgement until I'm able to hear it again, but I REALLY enjoyed what I did hear. It might be my favorite of the trilogy.

The climax was INCREDIBLE. In spite of all of the issues with the characters, the maelstrom was really intense, and the death of Jones was actually pretty well-done. The fate of Will is unexpected, (although really the best show of character for Jack's part), and I'm still on the fence on how to react to it.

Overall, I'd rate it only slightly above DMC; in other words, an A-. As for the trilogy, it's one of the best. Only two other trilogies scored as consistently high; LOTR and the SW OT.

On a side note, I may have missed something when I went to the bathroom, but what happened between Calypso and Jones?

Are you talking about when they were talking in the prison or afterwords when Barbosa summons Calypso?

My thoughs from the crowd reports thread:

Pros:

Better than DMC, that's for sure, and funnier as well. Despite the running time, it's never boring. The story is complex, but I felt it is easier to follow than the other 2 parts. The Fear and Loathing comparaisons are quite true. The Jack Sparrow hallucination scenes were weird, but entertaining to watch nevertheless. Keith Richards' cameo is AWESOME (he even gets to play some guitar). The final battle is great, and unlike many recent action films, you could tell what's going on. And finally, Keira Knightley was never hotter.

Cons:

Jack Sparrow gets even less screentime this time. His first appearance is about 35 mns into the films. Chow-Yun Fat gives a laughable performance. I wasn't a big fan of the ending. They're definitely setting up (an)other sequel(s). With the inclusion of Venom in Spider-Man 3, and PotC3's ending, I think we have reached a point where the box office receipts are clearly affecting the quality of the films.

PotC1 - A
PotC2 - B-
PotC3 - B/B+

Ugh, I still hate the pacing of these films. Cut Sao Feng and a number of pointless meetings and this thing comes in under two hours. The final battle was spectacular and on the whole, it's very funny. I very much liked where the Will/Elizabeth relationship went. On the other hand, I was appalled with how Norrington was treated.

Series grades:

POTC 1 - B
POTC 2 - B+
POTC 3 - B+

Magnus, are you really calling people who liked a movie you didn't "fucking idiots?"

Finally some Norrington love. He was just there for 5 minutes to die. Meh...

The series sometimes tries to be something more but it fails in that regard. The "big dramatic scenes" fall flat most of the times, you never care much when something happens to a character, the only thing that's on your mind is when comes the next Jack joke.