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The Dark Shape
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Complete this line of dialogue, BKB:
"Now everyone's going to know you died scratching __ ____!"
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:53 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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Notice how I asked BKB to ask me questions and he couldn't come up with one. NOTE IT.
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:02 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Zingaling wrote: Notice how I asked BKB to ask me questions and he couldn't come up with one. NOTE IT.
Even I'm getting bored with this particular pissing match... BTW, did anyone notice how Daniel Craig perfected the Blue Steel look?

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Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:34 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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bradley witherberry wrote: Zingaling wrote: Notice how I asked BKB to ask me questions and he couldn't come up with one. NOTE IT. Even I'm getting bored with this particular pissing match... BTW, did anyone notice how Daniel Craig perfected the Blue Steel look? 
The only pissing contest seems to be between Zing and the other younglings that still for the love of God, refuse to believe I saw this movie, even after I answered the question posed to me.. So because I did my share of what was asked of me to prove I saw this, I'm now saying PISS OFF to the folks who don't believe I saw the stupid thing.. But then again, Zing always complains about being bored and not entertained enough so maybe this his way of getting his kicks out of this, his entertainment if you will..
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:48 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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The Dark Shape wrote: Complete this line of dialogue, BKB:
"Now everyone's going to know you died scratching __ ____!"
My Balls which you and everyone else need to get off of..
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:50 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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CASINO_BKB wrote: bradley witherberry wrote: Zingaling wrote: Notice how I asked BKB to ask me questions and he couldn't come up with one. NOTE IT. Even I'm getting bored with this particular pissing match... BTW, did anyone notice how Daniel Craig perfected the Blue Steel look?  The only pissing contest seems to be between Zing and the other younglings that still for the love of God, refuse to believe I saw this movie, even after I answered the question posed to me.. So because I did my share of what was asked of me to prove I saw this, I'm now saying PISS OFF to the folks who don't believe I saw the stupid thing.. But then again, Zing always complains about being bored and not entertained enough so maybe this his way of getting his kicks out of this, his entertainment if you will..
Sure, let's go with that. Entertain me, BKB. You mentioned that I should prove that I saw Casino Royale because my review is so vague ("copied from IMDB message boards," if I recall). So? I'm waiting for a question. Unless you can't come up with one because, well... you don't know shit about the film other than what's in the trailer.
But, since you did answer Dark Shape's question correctly (even though it's on IMDB quotes, but so are a lot of things), I'll give you the benefit of my extreme doubt.
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The Dark Shape
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It's on IMDb quotes? Fudge sickle.
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:01 pm |
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Shack
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I'm pretty sure what happened was this
BKB wrote his original review without seeing the movie
After being slammed for weeks about not being able to answer the question, he finally goes and sees the movie... to save face in this argument
He can now answer all the questions he wants
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:24 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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J-Bot Jiggler 5 wrote: I'm pretty sure what happened was this
BKB wrote his original review without seeing the movie
After being slammed for weeks about not being able to answer the question, he finally goes and sees the movie... to save face in this argument
He can now answer all the questions he wants
I'm pretty sure your wrong and that I DID see the movie but don't take this shi* so seriously like the rest of you movie going elitist's do and don't feel I need to be scrutinized so heavily because I didn't give this movie the grade you all felt it deserved and as a result, I was hammered because of it.. If I would've gave the movie an "A" and ejaculated over it like the rest of you did, nothing would've been said about it.. Your all predictable and I laugh at that.. BOM awaits me..
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:09 am |
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The Dark Shape
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Weren't you banned at BOM?
For plagiarizing a review, as I recall?
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:26 am |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
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Gullimont-Kyro wrote: Easily the best Bond ever made and one of the films of the year. I'm still stunned at how good it was.
A+
Thats exactly how I felt. Absolutely floored me how good it was. I cant believe i'd rank it as the best film of the year so far (or atleast tied with Prestige and Departed)
Grade: A+
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getluv
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B+
Good. But not great.
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:52 am |
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trixster
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For sure one of the best Bonds and one of the most exciting action movies ever made. The Madagascar chase in particular was thrilling, but all of the action sequences were extremely well-choreographed and well-edited, so that the audience doesn't get lost, as can be the case with many modern fight scenes. The hand-to-hand fighting is much more exciting than the typical shoot-em-up gunfights. I didn't mind the doing away with many of the 007 conventions, as I understood that this is a reboot, and Bond hasn't become Bond truly yet. Furthermore, the film didn't completely reinvent the Bond franchise, it just toned down the formula a bit. All of this makes it a more realistic - but still stylized - and thrilling action flick.
I found the pacing was off sporadically throughout this, though, especially at the end, with the numerous false endings. Pretty much everything after the torture scene felt off; it didn't really drag, but it didn't jive with the rest of the film. That said, the aforementioned action scenes and the surprisingly exciting poker scenes more than made up for it. The villain's death was quite sudden and somewhat anti-climatic, but the final twist was genuinely surprising and led up to a great finish. The dialogue was quite sharp throughout - Bond's quips were top notch, and the banter between him and Vesper was entertaining - and the story was interesting, though there were a bit too many bad guys. Still, a solid screenplay.
The acting was pretty good, with Daniel Craig making a great case for the top Bond. He'll have to do a couple more films before being accurately compared against the others, but he was fantastic in this. Not quite as suave, but both comedic and dramatic. I still think Connery was better, but Craig was pretty damn good. Eva Green was a great Bond girl, but wasn't as hot as some of the others. For some reason, she looked much better without any makeup on. And the villain was pretty good in his limited role.
So, overall, a great reboot for the Bond franchise, akin to Batman Begins. While it's not quite as good as that was, it's still a thoroughly exciting and thrilling action flick, with great performances and a solid story. There were some pacing issues, but I suppose that comes with being the introductory film to a new franchise. I have confidence the next one will be even better, just as From Russia With Love was to Dr. No.
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Bradley Witherberry
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trixster wrote: For sure one of the best Bonds and one of the most exciting action movies ever made.
I just needed to quote that first line. It's for you. You're gonna need to read that again, trixster -- in 25 years. It's gonna be archived on the futurenet somewhere in 2031. Just Googleplex it up for yourself, and enjoy!
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:50 am |
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dolcevita
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How bad was this new installment of Bond?
C- bad.
How did you guys like this at all?
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:13 am |
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Price
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dolcevita wrote: How did you guys like this at all?
I think that answers your question. 
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:16 am |
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Dkmuto
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Despite its length, I actually didn't find it tedious once, and I have to give the film a lot of credit for that. The pacing is great.
It's also probably the tightest-wound Bond, in terms of story, that we've had as of recently. Not a lot of explanation of the intricacies of the bad guy and his plans and such and such, and I liked that.
I'm going to have to actually agree with Bradley here, though, in that in upping the drama and removing the humor, you're essentially depleting the film of its spirited Bondishess and fun, and ultimately, there's not a whole lot that separates it from a conventional action film.
I enjoyed myself, though. And I don't completely consider this humorless (more or less) reboot a bad thing. It was also somewhat refreshing, I suppose.
Going with a solid B.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:41 am |
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Dkmuto
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Heh, nice thread, by the way.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:44 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Dkmuto wrote: I'm going to have to actually agree with Bradley here, though, in that in upping the drama and removing the humor, you're essentially depleting the film of its spirited Bondishess and fun, and ultimately, there's not a whole lot that separates it from a conventional action film.
Be still, my racing heart!

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Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:56 am |
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Dkmuto
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Hold your horses now.
I still liked it.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:01 am |
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dolcevita
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Dkmuto wrote: ...
I'm going to have to actually agree with Bradley here, though, in that in upping the drama and removing the humor, you're essentially depleting the film of its spirited Bondishess and fun...
And removing "Q," and removing any sign of a fun gadget/gizmo (one of theprime indications he worked for an agency rather than just being a an angry nobody, I mean even superheroes have fun little toys they use by now), and removing Bond's ability to navigate life-threatening situations through *gasp* the use of brains rather than braun and maniacal cackling about scratching his balls.
Come to think about it, they stripped this Bond of even a 'grande' diabolical plan, and what little deviousness was involved Paul "I Like to SpoonFeed the Audience" Haggis got his grubby fingers on and explained to an unimaginative pulp in the first five minutes of the movie.
There was not an ounce of suspense of mystery in the entire godamn movie. I mean, its not like they couldn't have staged a supposed Terrorist threat, and Bond could read a paper about stock plummeting two days later, thus forcing the audience to infer the true plot, and to learn new information about the machinations of financial investors as the story slowly unfolds. Geesh, when Specter used to use Cold War politics as a facade for their financial gains and world domination, it always took a good half of the movie (if not more) to figure out exactly what they were conniving, who was manipulating who, and how everyone played on global expectations of the red scare (now translated into the terrorist threats).
There was no banter, and Vesper's suicide scene was laughable for, once again, spoon-feeding us and hitting us over the head with "love." I like how even her double crossing needed to be explained via "M" rather than "figured out" because Haggis is too lazy to actually think of how to plant information rather than just have someone narrative it in one minute and kill all intrigue. That guy needs to stop working. So does the director of this film, and the producers, and everyone who thought it would be a good idea to make Bond just-another-guy-with-fists.
Did anyone not get how even though the slim plot was supposed to be about how the plane explosion had nothing to do with terrorism and only to do with stock/financial investments that all the Secret Service just kept being like "If You Lose, You'll be supporting terorrism." Uh, we just established terrorism was a front, and that this guy is just a crooked banker who uses all his client's money. I like how saying something like 'You'll be supporting terrorism' is supposed to serve as the replacement for generating real intrigue and suspense.
I don't know why everyone was worried a gay Bond scene would kill the franchise? Casino Royale did a perfectly fine job delivering the final blow already, and Bond as an icon is already dead. 
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STEVE ROGERS
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dolcevita wrote: Dkmuto wrote: ...
I'm going to have to actually agree with Bradley here, though, in that in upping the drama and removing the humor, you're essentially depleting the film of its spirited Bondishess and fun... And removing "Q," and removing any sign of a fun gadget/gizmo (one of theprime indications he worked for an agency rather than just being a an angry nobody, I mean even superheroes have fun little toys they use by now), and removing Bond's ability to navigate life-threatening situations through *gasp* the use of brains rather than braun and maniacal cackling about scratching his balls. Come to think about it, they stripped this Bond of even a 'grande' diabolical plan, and what little deviousness was involved Paul "I Like to SpoonFeed the Audience" Haggis got his grubby fingers on and explained to an unimaginative pulp in the first five minutes of the movie. There was not an ounce of suspense of mystery in the entire godamn movie. I mean, its not like they couldn't have staged a supposed Terrorist threat, and Bond could read a paper about stock plummeting two days later, thus forcing the audience to infer the true plot, and to learn new information about the machinations of financial investors as the story slowly unfolds. Geesh, when Specter used to use Cold War politics as a facade for their financial gains and world domination, it always took a good half of the movie (if not more) to figure out exactly what they were conniving, who was manipulating who, and how everyone played on global expectations of the red scare (now translated into the terrorist threats). There was no banter, and Vesper's suicide scene was laughable for, once again, spoon-feeding us and hitting us over the head with "love." I like how even her double crossing needed to be explained via "M" rather than "figured out" because Haggis is too lazy to actually think of how to plant information rather than just have someone narrative it in one minute and kill all intrigue. That guy needs to stop working. So does the director of this film, and the producers, and everyone who thought it would be a good idea to make Bond just-another-guy-with-fists. Did anyone not get how even though the slim plot was supposed to be about how the plane explosion had nothing to do with terrorism and only to do with stock/financial investments that all the Secret Service just kept being like "If You Lose, You'll be supporting terorrism." Uh, we just established terrorism was a front, and that this guy is just a crooked banker who uses all his client's money. I like how saying something like 'You'll be supporting terrorism' is supposed to serve as the replacement for generating real intrigue and suspense. I don't know why everyone was worried a gay Bond scene would kill the franchise? Casino Royale did a perfectly fine job delivering the final blow already, and Bond as an icon is already dead. 
But BOND fanatics will tell you this was more closer to the novel and spirit of 007 than the other movie's which is hogwash..
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:26 am |
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The Dark Shape
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Actually, it is closer to the novel than most of them.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:01 am |
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dolcevita
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The Dark Shape wrote: Actually, it is closer to the novel than most of them.
1. That still doesn't make it a good movie!
2. That means nothing to the movie Bond Franchise, where I think its safe to assume at this point 99% of all its (the movie franchise) followers haven't read the book(s). So technically, they have nothing to do with this.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:21 am |
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Levy
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dolcevita wrote: How bad was this new installment of Bond?
C- bad.
How did you guys like this at all?
I'm really surprised. It was miles above anything the Brosnan era ever produced (with the 15 minutes soap opera at the end being the only flaw), the action was fantastic, Craig acted great. What's not to like?
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