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Shack
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Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Under 150 mil? A failure by Disney considering they chose it over Solo
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18880 Location: San Diego
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
I feel like it still might do big Christmas business but if it doesn't... the movie is just alright. Had they made a product that was irresistible then it would've done the huge numbers we all thought it'd do in total.
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Rolling Thunder
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
For starters, one could argue the Mary Poppins is way past her time. A woman floating around on an umbrella singing show tunes is no longer cool for this generation's youth, while the older demographic may have felt this sequel was an unnecessary cash grab.
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Emily Blunt. Carrie Fisher already showed last year that she was a better Poppins.
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Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:31 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
- I made the argument with Jurassic World's success that if nobody had made a movie yet about a dinosaur theme park where they escape, it would still be a kick ass idea for a blockbuster. Likewise for It, scary ass clown is a good horror idea. Mary Poppins is the opposite where in a vacuum a musical about a magical nanny sounds like box office poison if you remove the fact that an iconic first film exists. People who aren't attached to the original aren't going to care that much.
- The kids have grown up, but Poppins is the same age, talks different and is hotter. It's confusing. A full remake may have been the better choice. I understand Blunt plays the character more similarly to how she's originally written, so just re-do it like Depp in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
- The Christopher Robin trailer did a good job in my opinion of establishing McGregor's character has become a workaholic who's lost the magic, and the reintroduction of Pooh to save him becomes effective. I feel the similar plot in MPR looks less effective because it already stars kids who still have that sense of magic and enjoy flying kites.
- The film needed to sell that it has real heart instead of being carefully crafted by Disney to make you feel that it has heart but really wants to take your money
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Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:39 pm |
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
This is too damn soon. We have no idea the numbers it will post this coming week. I still think it's not going sub 150 Million.
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Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:30 pm |
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SolC9
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Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:11 pm Posts: 7172 Location: Wisconsin
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
It may end up being the case that this disappoints, but it's very premature to assume it will. Greatest Showman opened the Wednesday before Christmas just like this. It didn't even hit 50M before the new year, but ended up with 174M. This won't have that movies amazing run, but it's very likely to have a leggy run. The first 3 days of each film...
The Greatest Showman Wed $2,451,071 Thu $2,147,660 -12.4% Fri $3,126,629 45.6% $7,725,360
Mary Poppins Returns Wed $4,763,547 Thu $4,051,124 -15% Fri $6,700,000 65.4% $15,514,671
As you can see, for the first 3 days Poppins compares very favorably to Showman. 200M Dom isn't out of the question. Anyone with realistic expectations would be happy with a gross over 150M.
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Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:36 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18880 Location: San Diego
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Again... While I do think Poppins will have fine legs Showman is not a good comparison. Showman opened like a flop but was propelled to phenomenon status thanks to its soundtrack and WoM. Poppins ain't getting that.
Next week will be very telling but something like 150m for Poppins isn't so bad. Expectations just blew out of proportion. Overseas on the otherhand...
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Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:41 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
It's doing 150m, and even has a great chance at 175m. 200m is most likely out of reach but not impossible.
The film has good, but not exceptional WOM. It certainly seems like something people will be willing to check out later in its run without rushing to the theater as well.
A What Didn't Go Right? Thread would make more sense. It doesn't seem to have good WOM among fans of the original, so they probably could have focused on creating something they would like as well as something people who don't know the original could enjoy.
Maybe they could have tried to release it closer to Saving Mr. Banks so that Mary Poppins was back in the public eye when this came out.
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Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:23 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67043
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Blunt is STILL box office poison.
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Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:44 pm |
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6139 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Mary Poppins isn't really that culturally relevant anymore. It's a classic and nostalgia and etc. but people were not clamouring for a sequel or remake. It feels too old fashioned and uptight compared to modern family films. This type of film clearly has an audience (Paddington and Christopher Robin did $75m-$100m) but it's not that big.
Also, families and musical-loving audiences have been overserved between Grinch, Bumblebee, even Aquaman on the family side and Star Is Born and Bohemian Rhapsody on the musical side. This kind of fell between the cracks, despite the big brand name.
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Shack wrote: I understand Blunt plays the character more similarly to how she's originally written, so just re-do it like Depp in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
This is a really good insight. It needed a modern update in terms of the look and performance, that's why Depp's Willy Wonka worked so well. Another good example is Peter Rabbit: I absolutely hated what they did with the character, but there's no denying it worked. An old fashioned Peter Rabbit in the spirit of the original animated shorts wouldn't have done half as well.
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Brian
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Nothing against Blunt, I actually like her, and love every original song from the first MP movie, but I'm so tired of Disney capitalizing everything, so glad Mary Bombing is flopping!
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
It's not going under $150m. It will likely get to $200m.
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:26 am |
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Algren
now we know
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
No chance it gets to $200 million from that opening, i.hope. It will probably clear $150 million, PROBABLY. Still not a guarantee, and I think it will crawl there if it gets there. It won't clear $165 million, though.
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:57 am |
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DP07
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
It will probably get 170m. It doesn’t need good WOM, the type of movie and release date are as good for a multiplier as it gets. Aquaman will help the multiplier since it will hurt the opening more than the holds (like TLJ and Jumanji). The Thursday hold showed it doesn’t have much frontloading. If the increase is good enough next week, it has a shot at 200m.
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:50 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Hopefully it explodes on Tuesday
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:29 pm |
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Dil
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Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 pm Posts: 8942 Location: Houston, Texas
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
So even if it manages to somewhat save face domestically it looks like this could still be considered a bomb with those abysmal OS numbers. It would astonish me if this ended up not even beating Solo WW, but I don't know how likely that is.
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:16 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
That $130m budget is crazy. This should've been 90m at most.
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:20 pm |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Algren wrote: No chance it gets to $200 million from that opening, i.hope. It will probably clear $150 million, PROBABLY. Still not a guarantee, and I think it will crawl there if it gets there. It won't clear $165 million, though. I think it's got a good chance getting to $200m. No big openers around Christmas day will help it. And it's a film made for the holiday season. It will remain a top three choice for moviegoers for two more weeks.
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:19 pm |
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Thegun
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
zwackerm wrote: Hopefully it explodes on Tuesday My girlfriend said the same thing.
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:53 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
You're all forgiven, DP07. Thegun's gag blows even more.
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stuffp
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Price wrote: Emily Blunt. Carrie Fisher already showed last year that she was a better Poppins.
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Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:24 am |
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Shack
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Will barely get past 150 mil and possibly outgrossed by the Spiderverse. Poppins once again floppins
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Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:14 pm |
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zwackerm
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Re: Mary Floppins: What went wrong?
Shack wrote: Will barely get past 150 mil and possibly outgrossed by the Spiderverse. Poppins once again floppins It will hit 165m but it’s still not a flop. Just widely missed expectations. It won’t lose money.
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