The first is okay, nothing great. The sequel many will probably skip.

65/200.

This will do well. The first one is generally well liked even though I thought it was pretty mediocre. Hopefully they utilize the better characters.

It will most likely drop. But let's see how loved the first is in a year.

The original was pretty forgettable, but it's holding well and kids seemed to like it well enough. It'll drop but probably nothing crazy.

This. It's probably good for another $300 million.

I am hoping it does not reach $300m and stalls at $250m but the original did fine at critical level and is holding well so I don' think that will happen. Prediction $100m/$295m

It's at $299m right now.

This part relates to the sequel...



..and this relates to the first...



It's ok. I am a pretty good Spazzow translator after so many years of reading his bullshit.

Thank you.

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The original seems to have been huge simply due to the novelty the trailer conveyed. All novelty is gone. This will at least see a KFP or HTTYD level of decrease.

That would explain why it did very well opening weekend. The problem with your theory is that it's still making money. And not just limping along making money, but still holding well and making decent money.

And both of those films you mentioned, four years went in between the original and its sequel. As mentioned before, it'll be only two years in between, so the drop off shouldn't be anywhere near as drastic as those two.

Exactly, the film continues to do really, really freaking well. The general public (particularly kids) really seemed to dig it.

HTTYD did a 5X multiple. Didn't mean people were as interested in a sequel. Pets will probably do about a 3.4.

The film ran out of clever ideas after its first ten minutes. Obviously it has decent word of mouth, but it's far from glowing. I don't think anyone walks out of it going "OMG I NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!"

As we've seen this year, people don't bother with sequels unless they really are wanted. I don't believe this one is.

Feel free to disagree. This is a lightning-in-a-bottle performance the sequel won't be able to replicate.

Again, because it was four years after the original. A lot of the kids who saw the original probably grew out of it and wanted nothing to do with those films.



You're looking at it from your perspective. Do you think kids under the age of 12 give a crap about any of that?



You'd probably have a better argument if the movie wasn't a month into its release, and wasn't still the number three movie in the country, and didn't just cross $300 million.



Fact! Or not, because what's objectivity?

KFP and HTTYD also had those TV shows that didn't help the movies. Pets is definitely not on the same level as those two. I don't believe the 4 year gap killed HTTYD and neither would a 2 year gap greatly help Pets.

No, it's bigger.



No one is arguing that the two year gap is going to greatly help Pets. That would indicate it's going to increase and that's very likely not going to happen. For it to have any chance of that, it'll have to be a significantly better film that attracts not only kids and parents, but everyone else. I don't think Dreamworks has it in them. What I'm arguing is the two year gap is going to prevent it from falling off the same cliff the other two films did. It's going to stay relevant.

Was I not clear here? I was agreeing with you here but you don't seem to be happy about it (???)



I wasn't arguing??

What do you mean by DW doesn't have it? (the bold sentence).
Also I agree it won't fall that much. I guess my prediction sentence had some problems but honestly what is there not to get here????

Ah, ok. I read everything the opposite way.

As for the bolded: I don't think Dreamworks has it in them to make a sequel to Pets that's better than the original. They're lazy, and the original shows that. They had a perfect concept and did very little with it.

Illumination and not DW. I haven't seen the original so I cannot say about the quality but I do agree it would be difficult to be second time pass from critics.

Having now seen The Secret Life of Pets, I believe a sequel will drop by a lot. I don't see how Illumination will keep it relevant. The two year gap is a good start, but none of the characters are particularly enjoyable or unique. But then I am not even sure that matters. Kids are surely the driving force behind the first's success, and they will be the driving force in 2018 as well. I want to predict between $200m and $299m, but I think it might just be one of those licences to print money (like the Ice Age franchise overseas), so probably another $300m grosser is on the cards.

I’m hopeful this will be the Illumination film where parents finally say no. But God are they a cancer on motivation to create quality animated films.

I still think Sing was great, but DM3 was awful and I won't see Grinch.

Illumination has everything perfected in terms of production, merchandising and marketing and having their finger on the pulse of kids. If they could just aim higher creatively, they'd be unstoppable.

Illumination is financially successful, and as a business, that's their primary objective. I'm afraid bolstering scripts is shelved until their bottom line is affected. Really, just a few good writers to keep adults engaged in their movies would go a long way. It's one of the strengths Shrek had, these were equally enjoyed by kids and adults - not subjecting parents to letdowns like The Grinch.